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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Which need?

    3,000 people died in inter-tribal violence in province Pibor, South Sudan, at the beginning of this year. We didn't even notice, much less did a Western public discuss the prospect of intervention.

    Why is there a need for action in Syria, but not in other places?

    Looks to me as if it's not a need, but a personal preference.
    The Syrians are having a civil war. I can resist the urge for calling for an involvement.
    I see where you are coming from... but I did not say intervention in other areas/places is not needed. This is a thread about Syria, we are talking about Syria.

    Would you agree that there are scales of potential involvement/intervention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    Would you agree that there are scales of potential involvement/intervention?
    Is the country under attack?

    If not: Their defence is no topic for our security policy.
    If yes:

    Are they allied (by treaty!)?

    If yes: Collective defence, we are all under attack.
    If not:

    Are we really sure they are becoming victim of a genocide?

    If not: Keep an eye on the topic, all else is an issue for the UNSC.
    If yes: Check whether we can do something about it.

    Can we do something about it?

    If not: Go back one step.
    If yes: What can we do about it? (Military intervention is just on possibility.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Is the country under attack?

    If not: Their defence is no topic for our security policy.
    If yes:

    Are they allied (by treaty!)?

    If yes: Collective defence, we are all under attack.
    If not:

    Are we really sure they are becoming victim of a genocide?

    If not: Keep an eye on the topic, all else is an issue for the UNSC.
    If yes: Check whether we can do something about it.

    Can we do something about it?

    If not: Go back one step.
    If yes: What can we do about it? (Military intervention is just on possibility.)

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    Understandable but too simplistic I suggest.

    Most such decisions are driven by a mix of political and emotional motivations. There are a lot of factors which lead to a given set of circumstances being pressed home into the national psyche resulting in action being taken and those can safely be ignored.

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    Professor Paul Rogers commentary:http://www.opendemocracy.net/paul-ro...ost-of-failure

    It has nothing new or surprising and is a good summary of the position. Noteworthy as it does not discuss intervention.
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