Fuchs, I may be doing you an injustice.Originally Posted by Fuchs
1.) Let me amend everyone to "most people" - and very little has been written, on this subject.
2.) Checking my e-mail, I did get your skirmisher paper, and was unable to open it. We then drifted talking about C_RAM so it went under my radar. Re-send it as .doc and I will give it my full attention!
Infinity Journal "I don't care if this works in practice. I want to see it work in theory!"
- The job of the British Army out here is to kill or capture Communist Terrorists in Malaya.
- If we can double the ratio of kills per contact, we will soon put an end to the shooting in Malaya.
Sir Gerald Templer, foreword to the "Conduct of Anti-Terrorist Operations in Malaya," 1958 Edition
Naa, you checked too old e-mail. You got it later as .rtf and replied to it.Fuchs, I may be doing you an injustice.
1.) Let me amend everyone to "most people" - and very little has been written, on this subject.
2.) Checking my e-mail, I did get your skirmisher paper, and was unable to open it. We then drifted talking about C_RAM so it went under my radar. Re-send it as .doc and I will give it my full attention!
You got a 2nd version on 2008-07-21.
It looks as if you're losing the overview over your sources and contacts.
Maybe those light forces should forget mortars and heavier weapon systems and just stress FAC skills?
http://www.mil.se/sv/About-the-Armed...al-Arrow-2009/Ten NATO and non-NATO nations will participate in the life firing exercise Loyal Arrow 09 in Sweden from 8 to 18 June 2009. Some 50 fast jets, which will be based at Norrbotten Wing, will participate in the exercise.
The aim of the exercise is to train units and selected parts of the NATO Response Force Joint Force Air Component Headquarters in the coordination and conduct of air operations.
Additionally, planes from NATO’s Airborne Warning and Control System, better known as AWACS, as well as other transport aircraft and helicopters, will participate in the exercise. Some of the participating units will be flying in from bases in Norway and Finland.
Based on a fictions scenario
Command and control of the exercise will be executed by the Joint Force Air Component (JFAC) HQ from CC-Air Ramstein. Exercise Director will be Brigadier General Gianni Baron, Deputy Chief of Staff Operations CC-Air Ramstein.
Brigadier General Johan Svensson, Deputy Commander of the SWE Air Component Command, will be the exercise Co-Director.
The exercise is based upon a fictions scenario. Within this scenario, elements of the NATO Response Force (NRF), acting under a mandate by the United Nations Security Council, will be deployed to a theatre of operations.
Aircraft have got to refuel, and pilots have to sleep. I'd get good with mortars, mines, digging, guided weapons, and pre-dumped logistic caching. ....based on what history tells us.
Infinity Journal "I don't care if this works in practice. I want to see it work in theory!"
- The job of the British Army out here is to kill or capture Communist Terrorists in Malaya.
- If we can double the ratio of kills per contact, we will soon put an end to the shooting in Malaya.
Sir Gerald Templer, foreword to the "Conduct of Anti-Terrorist Operations in Malaya," 1958 Edition
Finnish Sissi & Tiedustelijat
These units - "sissi" is more long-range assault; "tiedustelijat" is more long-range recon - are pretty well summed here in Wiki, during Winter and Continuation Wars, and as part of regular TOE.
More akin to Rangers; and different from what is under discussion in this thread.The Finnish "Sissi"-battalions
The Finnish Sissi-battalions had quite a lot differences when compared to an ordinary infantry battalion. The Sissi-battalions were intended to fight in a large area, possibly in the enemy rear area, as an more or less independent unit, making small attacks against the enemy supply columns, securing open flanks in the wilderness, mining roads in the enemy rear and severing cable lines. These attacks/actions were usually made with small detachments (1 platoon), but larger units were also used. (But even while this type of warfare proved successful, the shortage of troops forced the Finns to use some Sissi-battalions also in regular front-line duty).
Of course, the "Sissi" ("guerilla" or "special unit" is perhaps the most matching English word) warfare made the command and logistics (supply) very difficult. That's why the Sissi battalion's HQ was similar to a Finnish regimental HQ, including a command office ("komentotoimisto" in Finnish) and a logistics office ("huoltotoimisto" in Finnish). being larger in number of personnel than a HQ of an regular battalion.
A Sissi-battalion had 3 rifle companies (so it didn't have the mg-company, that the regular battalion had).
Each rifle company had 3 rifle platoons (each platoon having 3 rifle squads and 1 special sledge squad), a lmg-platoon, a signals platoon and a delivery platoon ("toimitusjoukkue" in Finnish), making the companies well capable of independent action. Each rifle platoon had 4 smg's instead of the 2 smg's in regular platoons, otherwise the armament of a Sissi company was quite similar to a regular company. Also, each Sissi-company had 10 sledges.
Wilf said:
I suspect that NATO/Allies attack against opposition in Baltic scenarion would remind very much Kosovo campaign. Russians just have S300/S400 weapons. How to get rid of those? Tomahawks? Jagkampf raids? Antiradiation missiles etc.Aircraft have got to refuel, and pilots have to sleep. I'd get good with mortars, mines, digging, guided weapons, and pre-dumped logistic caching. ....based on what history tells us.
If NATO/Allies take this kind of mission seriosuly, the help of interior maneuver (units on the territory) to outside maneuver (invadeing forces) is comparable to the help of French resistance to Normandy landing. Interior maneuver can later just clean up the territory. If I remember correctly, the best military mission by KLA was to make Serbian units to move out from concealed positions.
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