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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I endeavour to keep threads on subject / theme regularly, as some may have noticed.

    I have just moved seven fascinating posts in an Azor & Outlaow09 exchange on Russian intelligence & German counter-intelligence to the thread on Recent Russian Intelligence Operations.
    Truly "fascinating" or merely off-topic?

    It must be be positively tranquil to have May as leader, as opposed to Hollande, Merkel or Trump. She is far less controversial, seems competent enough, and is quite simply an improvement on that pudgy-faced bloviator who occupied No. 10 before her.

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    Alex Jones creator of Infowars in U.S plays same role as Dmitry Kisilyov or Vladimir Solovyov of Russian TV

    Right now he is in the middle of a major divorce trial in TX and trying to distance himself from Infowars based on the large amount of money he has made with it and does not want to share with his wife....

    Interesting trial in U.S: "alternative truth" by Alex Jones of Infowars hits him back, and he is retreating

    So Alex Jones of @infowars is "just a performance artist"? This could well be the "I was just following orders" defense of the Fake News Age

    This trial could be the first step to debunk all the lies that are spreading via Jones resource & their stuff.
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    Very interesting that this popped up in my Google search when I searched for Khan Sheykhoun.
    Fake news is a booming industry.
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    US Deploys Two More Aircraft Carriers Toward Korean Peninsula: Yonhap | Zero Hedge
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ninsula-yonhap

    Zerohedge is a known fake news site.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    You really do have to spend some time here in Germany...you might be surprised how many US expats are here and they are not the older types...
    I have spent enough time in Germany. I do enjoy the lovely chaos of Berlin and the eastern cities, as well as the calmness of Magdeburg’s promenade along the Elbe.

    Yet a country is more than its objects and nature, and I found the people rather curious and emotionally repressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    1. Germany strangely is now the defender of liberal democracy as the US has claimed it is has been since 1776...

    2. Germany is lowering the voting age to 16..why because they say the younger generation needs a voice in what their futures will look like...AND the US over 50% do not even vote in a presidential election....

    3. That country that can turn on a dime when a three set IED exploded on a soccer team bus immediately started a thorough investigation taking it wherever it would go and thoroughly named it the responsibility of the extreme right wanting to blame refugees ie jihadists…
    Who appointed Germany “defender of liberal democracy”? Liberalism refers to individual freedom and the responsibility of the state to protect and maximize individual freedom. Democracy refers to sovereignty residing equally among the individuals of a nation.

    Yet Germany has restrictions on freedom of expression, which have increased notably under Merkel’s rule, as “hate speech” has been steadily broadened to conveniently silence reporting on and criticism of government policies. Merkel’s decision to open Germany’s borders was undemocratic, and taken without the consent of the German people. They only acquiesced out of fear of being branded xenophobic and racist, and because Merkel framed her decision in the context of atonement for World War II and the Holocaust.

    U.S. federal election turnout has always varied, but has been trending upward since 1996. By comparison, German federal election turnout has been declining consistently since 1998.

    A country that had liberalism and democracy imposed on it by forces of occupation cannot be considered a “defender of liberal democracy”. The United States and Great Britain were and remain its defenders, whatever their flaws and internal struggles.

    German popular support for NATO is in decline and may well fall below 50% before 2020, and a majority of Germans opposing using force to defend its NATO allies.

    By the way, the U.S. never began assuming the mantle of "defender of democracy" until World War II, when U.S. power was crucial to defeat Fascism and contain Communism.

    RE: Russia Thread

    Again, I will remain on-topic and not bite on your lure about Trump. The Berkeley riot included genuine peaceful protesters and violent rioters on both sides. The airstrike on Shayrat AB has been comprehensively discussed elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    I have spent enough time in Germany. I do enjoy the lovely chaos of Berlin and the eastern cities, as well as the calmness of Magdeburg’s promenade along the Elbe.

    Yet a country is more than its objects and nature, and I found the people rather curious and emotionally repressed.



    Who appointed Germany “defender of liberal democracy”? Liberalism refers to individual freedom and the responsibility of the state to protect and maximize individual freedom. Democracy refers to sovereignty residing equally among the individuals of a nation.

    Yet Germany has restrictions on freedom of expression, which have increased notably under Merkel’s rule, as “hate speech” has been steadily broadened to conveniently silence reporting on and criticism of government policies. Merkel’s decision to open Germany’s borders was undemocratic, and taken without the consent of the German people. They only acquiesced out of fear of being branded xenophobic and racist, and because Merkel framed her decision in the context of atonement for World War II and the Holocaust.

    U.S. federal election turnout has always varied, but has been trending upward since 1996. By comparison, German federal election turnout has been declining consistently since 1998.

    A country that had liberalism and democracy imposed on it by forces of occupation cannot be considered a “defender of liberal democracy”. The United States and Great Britain were and remain its defenders, whatever their flaws and internal struggles.

    German popular support for NATO is in decline and may well fall below 50% before 2020, and a majority of Germans opposing using force to defend its NATO allies.

    By the way, the U.S. never began assuming the mantle of "defender of democracy" until World War II, when U.S. power was crucial to defeat Fascism and contain Communism.

    RE: Russia Thread

    Again, I will remain on-topic and not bite on your lure about Trump. The Berkeley riot included genuine peaceful protesters and violent rioters on both sides. The airstrike on Shayrat AB has been comprehensively discussed elsewhere.
    So a organizational social media campaign started by the white nationalist IE neo Nazi side months before this specific demo pushed by several well known twitter accounts pushing for a violet clash does not qualify somehow .....arguing that "the other side was violent too"...does not cover up the simple fact it was neo Nazi organized and led......

    Also the same exact players were involved in the DEC BLM demo that turned to violence.....

    Notice the trend...

    BUT you ignored the way it then was played in European/US MSM...."a proTrump demonstration attacked by anti Trump protesters"....not a single mention anywhere of the neo Nazi element was there?

    I find it interesting that right now on any given day virtually any of the well known white nationalist or white supremacist social media or blogsites carry at least one conspiracy myth started out of the Russian bot net and further pushed via RT or Sputnik.....then ending up in either Infowars and or Breitbart.com

    And you do not find that "interesting"??

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    Students Say There’s No Such Thing as Truth, 'Truth' Is a Tool of White Supremacy
    http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/17/po...-theres-no-su#

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    SWIFT warns on vendor security after documents leaked by hackers
    http://reut.rs/2pc33dl

    ProRussian/Assad trolls favorite weapon lately used to stymie critique by social media sites of Assad and Putin actions in Syria.....

    Hey hey!
    My #AssadPutin fan club registered me at another 10 gay porn sites this afternoon.
    Well ... If that's all you have to offer ...
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    Six days before #France election, #Russia meddling mostly targeted centrist pro-EU Macron

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/1...o/q2XFfedKIR#…

    This is now Russian SOP: coordinated cyber attacks on specific candidates in western elections, often with success. No hoax here.


    REMEMBER Russian TV right after the Le Pen recent Putin visit stated...Russia would help Le Penn win...then suddenly tweet was deleted..WAS posted here.
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    FSB says it quashed plot to smuggle vast amount of weapons from Europe/Ukraine into Russia
    http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/press/message/...bMessage.html#

    AND as always with FSB accusations of this type...they NEVER publish a single photo or evidence..all just words as if the world is suppose to believe the FSB????

    Another disinformation attempt being used to set the stage to something else...

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    Fake news could swing #France's elections, with a heavy Russian footprint detected in this new report.
    https://www.bakamosocial.com/blog/french-

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    Russian CW attack fake news

    Because the victims were taken to Turkey for treatment, funny @mod_russia doesn't know that

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...haykhun-fake/#
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    It is just not Russians that produce FAKE NEWS.....

    UK MSM is spreading fakes news as do the Russians and Assad it seems...
    Dear @Daily_Star desk,
    there has NEVER been an #ISIS presence in #Lataminah.
    Next ISIS area is 70km away.
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-clip-jihadi#…

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    There has been a massive hack of the Georgia Sixth District that in a special election today.....

    Is a Republican district BUT Democrats are on the verge of actually winning the district with a strong performance...

    IMPORTANT-> Georgia's Sec of State is asking the public to report "any and all irregularities at the polls" on Tues.
    Phone #: 404-656-2881

    The machines hold a list of names & addresses of *every voter* in Georgia. Drivers license #'s are also in there, but harder to access.

    Those stolen voter machines contain voter rolls. Meaning personal info. Incredibly shady.
    http://www.ajc.com/news/state--regio...nYLwO/#…
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    So again explain to me why is a critical district there was a sudden computer hack

    WHY the sudden connections between US elections and hacking...started by first Russians....

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    Many Americans would be surprised that an American citizen residing in first California and now Moscow is behind the drive to separate California from the US...he even opened a so called Yes California Moscow embassy there....

    .@YesCalifornia's leader worked for Bernie, voted for Trump and will resettle in Russia.

    Amazing how one man ties it together.

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    Astonishing. Roughly 1 in 4 articles shared in #France about the election are from sites that promote fake news.
    https://www.bakamosocial.com/blog/fr...ion-fake-news#

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    This is key point re Jill Stein's alleged Russia ties: did Moscow have a 2nd horse in the US presidential race? @rwindrem suspects it did.

    Jill Stein won't comment on how she ended up at that Moscow dinner w Putin and Michael Flynn
    http://nbcnews.to/2oHWwpE

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    Ukraine twitter accounts complain of sudden drop in Russian trolls attack. Worried that their budget is cut.

    Possibly true as the US government has recently taken down a series of Russian botnet servers with the arrest of a top Russian hacker in Barcelona....

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    .@Twitter bots in action - #Russian #informationwarfare methods designed for "easy exploitation - high impact"
    http://bit.ly/2p3b30p

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