Good... so we can stop pretending that the Arab Spring, the Color Revolutions, and/or Vietnam or ASEAN's position re China are/were made in the USA?
Good... so we can stop pretending that the Arab Spring, the Color Revolutions, and/or Vietnam or ASEAN's position re China are/were made in the USA?
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”
H.L. Mencken
You are welcome to pretend that it is not!Originally Posted by Dayuhan
Given the absence of any evidence or body of credible informed opinion to suggest that these events were/are consequences of US action, it's pretty clear which position involves pretense.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”
H.L. Mencken
We are all aware of evidence.
Heard of Iraq and Saddam bristling with WMD (like Uncle Scrooge with bank notes) that another chamcha (poodle) felt that it would be delivered in 45 minutes?! That to some was 'solid' evidence and go to town about!
What a pity that one selectively finds evidence and then discards the events as they unfold without a whiff of suspicion since it does not suit the temperament and the agenda.
Like China is in a phase of Peaceful Rise and the confrontations in the South China Sea is a mirage, or at least, just routine and fun and games!
Nations are tumbling down because of a writ from God!!
Last edited by Ray; 04-12-2012 at 08:25 AM.
Really?Newly independent nations are very rarely stable, regardless of what their people want.
India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Iraq etc are so unstable that they are changing their boundaries because they are unstable?!
If you will contrive to state that they are unstable, who created that instability if indeed they are unstable?
Malaysia, Indonesia, and India are hardly "newly independent".
When a nation achieves independence, or when a long-lasting dictator is removed, a power vacuum is created. Often the government that takes over is weak and unable to fully fill that vacuum. Various parties and factions compete to fill the vacuum and seize power for themselves, creating instability. Foreign powers may try to exploit that instability to advance their own agendas, typically by backing factions they see as amenable to their interests. That may exacerbate instability, but it doesn't create the instability.
Foreign powers do meddle and conduct covert operations. That doesn't mean that everything that happens in the world is a consequence of external meddling and covert operations: many things happen that are not controlled and even engaged foreign powers are often taken by surprise. Whatever has happened in any given case must be assessed on the basis of evidence specific to that case. Just because the US has supported coups in Latin America does not mean that every coup everywhere has support from the US or any other outside power.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”
H.L. Mencken
Interesting is all one can say.Foreign powers may try to exploit that instability to advance their own agendas, typically by backing factions they see as amenable to their interests. That may exacerbate instability, but it doesn't create the instability.
Analyse Congo to start with!
Blood Diamonds is a fiction?
It is just that the wild blokes running in the bush?!
It just may exacerbate instability, but it doesn't create the instability!
I like Carl's -Your quote is another variation of the "Oh yeah!" argument.
Last edited by Ray; 04-13-2012 at 08:45 AM.
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