Law Enforcement Analysis

[davidbfpo]

Fuchs,

I do tend to agree with you at first reading:

I am deeply irritated by this seamless connection between small wars and domestic police work. Let's keep the warfare box closed for domestic affairs and not import whatever we do to foreign people! Don't mix this!

In several places, not just the USA, there has been an overlap between 'small wars' and 'domestic police work' partly due to the interaction of people and institutions - SWC is a place for this interaction and reflects IMHO a sizeable US law enforcement readership / membership. I've not looked at previous threads, so IIRC there has been a clear line drawn between the two spheres and not a 'seamless connection'.

[Fuchs]

The seamless connection is that it happens in the same forum.
It does not belong here.

Thread naming is irrelevant. The content is the problem. SWC forum facilitates the transfer of war-like methods to domestic state power, and that's just wrong.

These small wars are in great part about how to suppress political opponents, after all.
Population control and surveillance programs and attitudes are generally questionable, but they are specifically totally unacceptable in a domestic context.

[Ken White]

You're both right.

That said, I don't know what the best answer might be. I agree with Fuchs om the line blurring but it may be best if both of us just live with it...

[slapout9]

The seamless connection is that it happens in the same forum.
It does not belong here.

Thread naming is irrelevant. The content is the problem. SWC forum facilitates the transfer of war-like methods to domestic state power, and that's just wrong.

These small wars are in great part about how to suppress political opponents, after all.
Population control and surveillance programs and attitudes are generally questionable, but they are specifically totally unacceptable in a domestic context.

Police Work is a small war, we invented it not the Army.

[slapout9]

Fuchs, you have more to fear from THRUSH than the government. THRUSH was a private organization and Goggle,Face book, etc. are private organizations and they are a lot scarier than the government.

T-Technological
H-Hierarchy for the
R-Removal of
U-Undesirables and the
S-Subjugation of
H-Humanity

[Fuchs]

Fuchs, you have more to fear from THRUSH than the government. THRUSH was a private organization and Goggle,Face book, etc. are private organizations and they are a lot scarier than the government.

I seem to need to remind you that a 5th of my people was living in a dictatorship for four of the last six decades. Tell me if I need to go back a few more years to make my point.

[slapout9]

I seem to need to remind you that a 5th of my people was living in a dictatorship for four of the last six decades. Tell me if I need to go back a few more years to make my point.

No need to remind me because I never new it in the first place,so I will remember in the future. But it doesn't change my opinion that the threat from privatized intelligence (information) companies that could be used to do the things you fear most is greater than any western style police gestapo. May be different where you live.

[Fuchs]

No need to remind me because I never new it in the first place,so I will remember in the future. But it doesn't change my opinion that the threat from privatized intelligence (information) companies that could be used to do the things you fear most is greater than any western style police gestapo. May be different where you live.

We have no Patriot Act...

[CloseDanger]

Fuchs,

I do tend to agree with you at first reading:

In several places, not just the USA, there has been an overlap between 'small wars' and 'domestic police work' partly due to the interaction of people and institutions - SWC is a place for this interaction and reflects IMHO a sizeable US law enforcement readership / membership. I've not looked at previous threads, so IIRC there has been a clear line drawn between the two spheres and not a 'seamless connection'.

Soldiers in Baghdad used such systems for LEO work there. Just so happens, it may be something that needs to be shared if only to show the Military how far things are going. They have the weapons and they took an Oath. Even the database system was posted in one of the forums here. There was an insightful thread, just not up to hunting it down right now.