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Old 11-17-2016   #121
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Fake election stories got more engagement on Facebook than top election stories from 19 major news outlets combined https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilver...RPo#.mpRxNrDp5

NOW Azor the analysis of these fake sites show an major amount of the fakes articles pertained to alleged Clinton corruption...crazy stories about the emails downloaded by WikiLeaks...AND this is critical....a large number centered around of set of totally faked and doctored emails that were part and parcel of the WikiLeaks dump....NOW this is not "information warfare"...BUT WAIT some call it "freedom of the press"......and "free speech" BUT WAIT when it is designed to undermine the core principles of democracy THEN what is it????I would love to post the locations of IP addresses of the servers pushing these sites but I am restricted by my customer......might be an eye opener for you and other Americans....

BTW....there is a Chrome add-on floating around on the net that allows Chrome to indicate if the site is fake or not...
.@selectall made a Chrome extension that will flag fake-news site for you. Super smart.
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/11/h...s.html#…

Azor the reason these fake sites are dangerous is the way the current 24 hour news cycle works.....we tracked one particular European based fake news article into the US....then watched it get picked up SIX other fakes sites....then it was further picked up by the right wing radio talk media quoting these fakes sites as if they were real news and then made the leap into the standard MSM as they assumed wrongly the article was true AS they failed to simply fact check...this is what we call the Post truth...period...
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Ku Klux Klan Plans Victory Parade For Donald Trump
https://youtu.be/35CS5E9jeTQ

Any pushback from Trump and company and distancing himself from this parade....nothing...silence..crickets.....

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Azor....just a kind of historical wakeup for Americans...in 1986 the US Nazi Party was flowing 20M USDs per year into the German NPd and various associated groups and the German Postal system was intercepting over SIX tons of printed US Nazi Party materials as they contained Nazi symbols forbidden under German law....

AND that was 1986 and it has only gotten worse over the years.....a famously rich American LaRoche who has served US jail time once wrote in a book of his...."you do not need to wear Brown to be Brown"....and his daughter has led the European Workers Party from the very beginning and it has seats in the European Parliament just as does UKIP and LePen's Front Nationale....simply because of the EU election laws that state if your party reaches a certain percentage of votes then you can make it into the EU Parliament...

The former UK UKIP leader once he won Brexit after beating up on the EU quit his UKIP leadership position BUT maintained his EU Parliament seat as that pays 12K Euros per month....and health care and free transportation as a EU Parliament member....THAT is what I call hypocrisy first call version.....AND his wife is German and that gives him the right when UK goes into Brexit to remain a EU citizen what he fought against becoming.....with everything he condemned about the EU...

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U.N. nuclear watchdog criticizes Iran for overstepping deal limit
http://reut.rs/2fkeask

NOT SO SUBTLE KSA warning to Trump and his advisors....
Prince Turki al-Faisal at #MEIconf: 'If #Trump makes a deal w. #Russia & #Iran over #Syria, it'll be the most disastrous step possible'

Rumored to be the next national security advisor who actually got fired by Obama from his failure with and inside DIA.....and who has shown himself in numerous trips to Moscow to in fact be Putin leaning....as well in his comments...

Putin's Darling: Nat'l Security Advisor Flynn on Russian TV. Amazing that Republicans have decided they are OK with this. Party > Country
BUT WAIT.....engaged as a lobbyist for Turkey...and no conflict o interest there whatsoever is there...he had suggested Gulen be deported from the US to Turkey....????

Trump adviser linked to Turkish lobbying and Russian propaganda arms
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...bbying-231354#
.@GenFlynn nixed Peter Pace, Bill McRaven, Jim Mattis and former House Intel chair Mike Rogers, reports @KellyO:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...rmoil-n685321#

Flynn's DIA firing not behind this right?????

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Obama changes tune about #Russia: once he said it was "regional power" now he says its a "military superpower"

No, really, we just wasted 4 years over Hillary's private server and now Prez-Elect Trump is talking to world leaders on his private phone.
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Russia's Foreign Ministry says starting to contact Trump's team over Syria
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What worries me in all theses discussions whether here or on the Ukraine thread or the blog on what is Trump's future FP....are two inherent things that go deeply into a sphere that many Americans do not nor do they like discussing....propaganda/information warfare and can US citizens be compromised by Russian intelligence and used as "agents of influence"...

If anyone does not know the term please Google "agents of influence" for a clear definition....

I have tried to pound the theme here that we are losing and losing badly the propaganda war....when it was the US cornerstone in the Cold War days...BUT it was elegantly wrapped in the narrative "common values"....

Latest example..last night on CNN ...a major Trump supporter was called out on the unusual amount of lies put into play by the Trump campaign and from Trump himself....I personally stopped counting at 121....in six months....

His response was yes there were lies and I know it BUT I liked what I heard coming from Trump.....WHAT can be said about that statement?

Second example....in order to get a TS/SCI and other side clearances such as Gamma and since Snowdon you must currently pass what is called a "lifestyle and CI polygraph".......

NOW we have a potential conflict of inter4est when a former US 3 star intel General who was fired or poor performance as the DIA Director has been making or over three years very positive statements about Putin's FP and then shows up in Moscow at a major Russian Today event sitting on the same table as Putin.....

THEN when questioned about that he refuses to state was the trip a consulting deal...was it paid for by RT and how much has he received fro previous RT interviews....."he refused to answer those questions as a former US senior intel officer"......

SO now does he simply get his previous clearance reinstated and slides past the "life style and CI polygraph"...or is he held to the same standard and thousands of other US citizens who hold such a clearance????????

WHEN Politico are more conservative media outlet starts writing articles like this ...they are as concerned as I am about who Flynn really works for.....

Gen. Mike Flynn goes to Moscow:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story
/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-russia-today-rt-kremlin-media-vladimir-putin-213833#

JUST a side comment....Gazprom the Russian natural gas company has been used for years as a "weaponized economic influencer" against or for Russian opponents or supporters.....they have thrown millions of dollars/euros at their supporters and then massively overcharged their opponents....

The same exact game is being played by Russian Today that has even corrupted former anti Russian journalists and news media personalities who now work for RT praising Trump and Putin with multi million dollar contracts with RT....

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Trump's national security pick is a proponent of #torture & #warcrimes
http://bit.ly/2fKVEKc

And, Islamophobia...
http://nyti.ms/2fKUGOg
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Trump's national security pick is a proponent of #torture & #warcrimes
http://bit.ly/2fKVEKc

And, Islamophobia...
http://nyti.ms/2fKUGOg
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(Washington) – President-elect#Donald Trump’s#choice of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn for National Security Advisor demonstrates a deeply disturbing disregard for#human rights principles and the laws of war. Flynn has repeatedly endorsed proposals#by Trump that#would constitute torture and other war crimes.

“Michael Flynn has#shown a stunning contempt for the Geneva Conventions and other laws prohibiting torture,” said Sarah Margon, Washington director at Human Rights Watch. “By offering this key post to Flynn,#President-elect Trump is undermining US commitments to international laws that have been broken to America’s detriment.”
BTW...just a side comment..in 2005 and 2006 the US Army was under massive pressure by HRW for their actions in Iraq....in 2006 HRW was invited to the Army's National Training Center at Ft. Irwin CA and asked to ensure that the Iraq training scenario conformed to what they expected....BTW they were totally surprised we had invited them...thus began a very fruitful exchange for both... much to the surprise of HRW as they were provided unlimited access and input.....and the scenario they worked with us on was solid in the areas they foresaw to be problems as they had seen them in Iraq......suddenly the critique of the Army in Iraq by HRW stopped.

SO when they make this kind of statement public THEN I intently listen to them.....
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FOR those that do not fully comprehend "fake news" and HOW it works....THIS is the greatest example AND from our new President...THIS is in fact hardcore info warfare being directed straight at Trump voters...some in Europe call this what it is.... outright propaganda/disinformation.

Trump tweets this yesterday...got picked up on the right wing radio media outlets and on the Trump twitter feeds and passed countless times around on proTrump social media sites and fake news sites as the "truth"...AND THIS MORNING I see it was picked up by German MSM....AND roundly critiqued as FALSE....

Donald J. Trump
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Just got a call from my friend Bill Ford, Chairman of Ford, who advised me that he will be keeping the Lincoln plant in Kentucky - no Mexico

SO we have our new President basically lying as no plant was ever moving ANYWHERE and he SAVED no jobs as none where being lost....AND we have FOUR years of this lying coming full at us....

AND Ford responded to this fake claim TWO full months ago....

Our president-elect tweeted something that clearly implies his election prevented a plant from moving south.

I worked at the plant mentioned. We build a Lincoln at the Louisville Assembly Plant. It was and as far as I know still is

Yeah, the confusion is over the shift of one type of car from a plant in Michigan to a new one in Mexico

WaPo confirms that according to union there were never jobs at stake. No "plant" was ever moving.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ng-to/#…

Welp.
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Flynn will be advising Trump on Syria as well...........

General Flynn (at left) at the Kremlin with Putin (At right), without clearance from the Pentagon and he still holds at least a TS/SCI.

Flynn boasts he was the first US officer to be invited into Russian military intelligence HQ where he lectured Russian spies on leadership..he would have had to fully and completely inform DoD of this trip and pull in an authorization for this trip as well as being CI briefed and then CI debriefed after his return...BUT he did neither thus is in complete violation of DoD security regulations pertaining to visits to Russian military and or intelligence facilities...

BBC Russian runs headline:
"Trump proposed Nat. Sec. Adviser post to General with Russia Today".
https://twitter.com/bbcrussian/statu...5285467377665#

Vladimir Putin Knows More About Donald Trump’s Plans Than U.S. Officials Do - The Daily Beast
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...cials-do.html#

WHAT is extremely interesting is that a top Trump advisor Carter Page is known to have been in Moscow speaking with high Russian officials over policy questions BEORE the election and the FBI has questioned him about this trip and he and his lawyers have reused to provide answers to their questions......At first he did not want to even admit social media reports of him being in Moscow..

Profound ethical & security questions over Mike Flynn, Trump's pick for National Security Adviserhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-f...sh&soc_trk=tw#

Getting TS/SCI briefings and then advising foreign clients simply would cause a normal human being to lose his US security clearance OVERNIGHT....ESPECIALLY if the government is not informed about those clients BEFORE the briefing as is this case....

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THIS is funny if it was not so serious......WE have heard the names of 14 people to be the DoS....SIX of which had checkered lobbyist backgrounds....FOUR had close Russian ties.....AND NOW

We get the name of former Gen. Petraeus being thrown out of DoS BUT WAIT he was actually sentenced and firnd for mishandling and giving away truly proven classified information to his then girlfriend and hid it on his private email account on a public email company set of multiple servers and Clinton was suppose to be what "worse"?????

THIS whole thing is turning into a circus of farces......

AND the farce just continues onward and upward....

Russian media literally cites & regards @realDonaldTrump twitter account as an official @POTUS account. No need for Department of State

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The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense.

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The fake news Cold War in the US is heating up...now the "alt Right answers"....

'Obama is a sulphur demon' conspiracy theorist vows to fight fake news on the internet
http://ibt.uk/A6g9Y?utm_source=socia...ebook-1592008#
… via @IBTimesUK

US blames USSR for disinformation & forgeries —Soviets blame America for The New York Times & Hollywood, ca 1988

MORE Trump disinformation hard at work......
Spokesman claims #DonaldTrump never called for Muslim registry despite video evidence https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...=share_btn_tw#

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Flynn is a well known staff-abuser. Bad rep in DC. It will be impossible for Trump WH to get quality people to staff NSC if Flynn's boss

BTW...Russia Today has the Flynn bio when they write about him...stating he was a commander of special operations????????

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Top five FAKE election stories by Facebook engagement three months before the election. Read carefully.

NOW the latest automated trolling is....

Trump internet trolls from Macedonia claiming Clinton only won the pop vote due to fraud.....BUT US fake news site celebrates Trump win of the popular vote.....go figure......BUT CHECK the shares distribution ....impressive for a fake news site so are the numbers even correct as some European research is indicating the numbers are faked as well....

We at @cepa described Russian disinformation in East Europe last summer. Now read @AtlanticCouncil on West Europe
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/image..._web_1116.pdf#

SO the Russian info warfare in Crimea...eastern Ukraine...Syria and now the US is definitely NOT intertwined...think again....

If you want to understand Trump's rise, you have to understand the incredible power of fear in American media.
http://mm4a.org/2fM39R9

Did #Russia hack #DNC, cyber attack vs US election system? "You can take it to the bank” per fmr CIA Dir Michael Hayden
SO IF we saw the first of the two key cornerstones of Russian non linear warfare involved directly in the US election process...WE did not see informational warfare being directed straight at the US?????

BUT WAIT...a pro "alt Right" commenter......
Why should Facebook censor the news? What authority has its biased staff have to decide what's real? NYTimes purveys plenty of fake news

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This was tweeted just hours before he accepted the DCIA position....think Iran needs to run for cover now....and those future Iranian nukes...will definitely be rolling out sooner than later....interestingly KSA is against the Trump moves to eliminate the Deal....because they do not want to get into a nuclear arms race in the ME.....

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ICYMI: My latest article in @ForeignPolicy:

“Trump’s Syria Strategy Would Be a Disaster”

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/17/...aster/#…

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