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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    I see no real reason for why USMC fixed wing aviation should exist at all.
    To show the Air force how to fly CAS.

    Seriously, because it can and due to a difference in traditions. In the US, all services own and control most of their own aircraft. Think of it as a Federal system as opposed to a centralized state. It is mildly inefficient, it is not at all ineffective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    To show the Air force how to fly CAS.

    Seriously, because it can and due to a difference in traditions. In the US, all services own and control most of their own aircraft. Think of it as a Federal system as opposed to a centralized state. It is mildly inefficient, it is not at all ineffective.
    I still wish the Air Farce would have given the A10 to the Marines. It is still the finest CAS fixed wing air craft available IMHO.

    The F35 is on a short leash.

    This blog post got a bunch of hits from the NCR http://selil.com/archives/2689

    This is the article that I based my blog post on http://armedforcesjournal.com/2011/09/7558132/

    There most assuredly are better acquisition and weapons requirements strategies than what we're doing now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selil View Post
    I still wish the Air Farce would have given the A10 to the Marines. It is still the finest CAS fixed wing air craft available IMHO.
    True dat...
    This blog post got a bunch of hits from the NCR http://selil.com/archives/2689. . .There most assuredly are better acquisition and weapons requirements strategies than what we're doing now.
    True dat as well -- that's a good Post at the link! Works for me...

    At the risk of being the resident curmudgeonly cynic, I have to warn you: I think the NCR visitors to the Post may be Congressional Staffers drawn to see such money saving and common sense heresy and who are likely determined to stop you before you annoy the Major Defense Contractors and affect jobs in their Bosses districts...

    Though hopefully, the visitors would be folks who see the wisdom of the idea and push it into adoption...

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    Defense Industry Daily has issued an updated report on USMC efforts to ‘deconflict' and 'progress’ the CH-53K and MV-22B projects. Report is at

    http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-updated-01724

    Added by Moderator at author's request (3hrs ago):The update of DID's report on the CH-53K was released in public domain. That was later changed to subscriber only. Advice from DID is that there was some technical problem, also that the update will not be re-released as public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Compost View Post
    Defense Industry Daily has issued an updated report on USMC efforts to ‘deconflict' and 'progress’ the CH-53K and MV-22B projects. Report is at

    www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ch53k-the-us-marines-hlr-helicopter-program-updated-01724
    From the link above:

    But the helicopters are wearing out. Fast. The pace demanded by the Global War on Terror is relentless, and usage rates are 3 times normal.
    I think it might be better said that usage rates are 3 times projected.
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    Default de-conflicting without progress

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    Another update of DID's 'CH-53K: The U.S. Marines' HLR Helicopter'... is again publicly available (briefly ?) at

    http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-updated-01724

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