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    THIS is just how pathetic the new incoming US president thinks and acts...BUT WAIT did he not state for the record he is smarter than yes even his intel briefers.....

    He is dangerous and will cause the clash of civilizations if he is not careful with his statements and actions towards Muslims in general.....

    President-elect Donald Trump emerged from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., on Wednesday afternoon to briefly address questions from reporters about this week’s deadly attacks in Europe. And Trump appeared to stand by his plan for both a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States and the creation of a registry of Muslims who live here.

    Trump was asked whether Monday’s violence in Germany#and Turkey had caused him to “rethink or reevaluate” his plan to create a Muslim registry or a ban on Muslim immigration.

    “You know my plans,” Trump replied. “All along, I’ve been proven to be right — 100 percent correct. What’s happening is disgraceful.”

    Following the 2015 terror attacks in Paris, Trump called for a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the United States, a database tracking American Muslims, and expanded surveillance of “certain” mosques. But following sharp criticism from both Democrats and Republicans, he#appeared to soften his stance, saying the proposals were “just a suggestion until we find out what’s going on.”

    In June, after the deadly mass shooting at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla., Trump said the profiling of U.S. Muslims might be part of his counterterrorism plan.

    Members of his transition team have since stated that they intend to suspend immigration from “regions where it cannot be safely processed or vetted” and impose “extreme vetting” on immigrants who are allowed to enter the United States.

    Some Trump aides and advisers have suggested that the proposed database of the U.S. Muslim population will not in fact be created, but the proposal for the ban remains on the Trump campaign website and it’s unclear which statements reflect the incoming administration’s current thinking.

    Following Monday’s truck attack on a Christmas market in Berlin, Trump issued a statement suggesting ISIS had carried out the attack as part of its continued “slaughter” of Christians in “their global jihad.”

    But on Wednesday, Trump appeared to be unaware of his own on-paper assertion that Christians were the target.

    “Who said that?” Trump said.

    “I believe you said it in a press release,” one of the pool reporters replied. “I’m wondering how this might affect relations with Muslims.”

    “It’s an attack on humanity,” Trump replied. “That’s what it is. An attack on humanity, and it’s got to be stopped.”
    SO WHEN Trump starts a war with Muslims...will he remember exactly what he previously said..as it appears that he cannot remember anything from day to day.

    WE the US had a WW2 registry when we placed all US Japanese citizens into internment camps.....a stain that have never been erased .....AND we the US tried it again after 9/11 but it failed as well......AND Trump and his advisors ALL know this......

    IS the new Muslim registry similar to the Jews being forced in Germany to wear the yellow Star of David on their clothes.....????

    THIS is what Trump does not fully understand about Berlin.......

    On Tuesday a Syrian refugee father and his 14 year old son were attacked and being beaten by a group of four neo Nazi's as they were approaching their refugee center.....

    A group of teenagers 7...boys and girls from the local low income blue collar neighborhood then jumped into the fray and started beating on the neo Nazi's after calling the police for help......

    SEVEN teenagers NON Muslim in a blue collar neighborhood stood up and defend Syrian refugees .........AND they were as Trump stated Christians......

    NOW what would Trump say to that.....?????
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    UPDATE.....there have been NYTs reports that the wanted attacker had been on a no fly US list and had been on the internet searching for bomb making information....NONE of this passed to German security services....WHY NOT...???

    THERE has been comments ALSO coming out of the US that German should have been surveilling him totally...and why did they lose him.......

    Currently German security services carry a total of 550 on a list of potentially dangerous Islamists.....

    In order to conduct round the clock total surveillance on these 550 individuals it would require a total of 15,000 well trained surveillance personnel....and that does not count their work against organized crime...ongoing at the same time as well as the standard espionage cases that require surveillance teams.

    BTW....the German government had wanted to deport the attacker in July 2016 but could not as the Tunisian government would not issue a valid Tunisian passport in order to be deport under German law...

    SUDDENLY after the attack and his being identified as Tunisian....SUDDENLY the passport arrived yesterday.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    THIS is just how pathetic the new incoming US president thinks and acts...BUT WAIT did he not state for the record he is smarter than yes even his intel briefers.....

    He is dangerous and will cause the clash of civilizations if he is not careful with his statements and actions towards Muslims in general.....



    SO WHEN Trump starts a war with Muslims...will he remember exactly what he previously said..as it appears that he cannot remember anything from day to day.

    WE the US had a WW2 registry when we placed all US Japanese citizens into internment camps.....a stain that have never been erased .....AND we the US tried it again after 9/11 but it failed as well......AND Trump and his advisors ALL know this......

    IS the new Muslim registry similar to the Jews being forced in Germany to wear the yellow Star of David on their clothes.....????

    THIS is what Trump does not fully understand about Berlin.......

    On Tuesday a Syrian refugee father and his 14 year old son were attacked and being beaten by a group of four neo Nazi's as they were approaching their refugee center.....

    A group of teenagers 7...boys and girls from the local low income blue collar neighborhood then jumped into the fray and started beating on the neo Nazi's after calling the police for help......

    SEVEN teenagers NON Muslim in a blue collar neighborhood stood up and defended Syrian refugees .........AND they were as Trump stated Christians......

    NOW what would Trump say to that.....?????
    If Trump spoke German....maybe he would not have said what he did about the Berlin attack......he certainly does not understand that a vast majority of Germans do in fact support the refugees being in Germany...what some did/do not like is the hectic way it was done.....and the neo right plays the race card as did Trump and his surrogates and he still does....with a statement like this above....

    THIS was given top location in a major Berlin newspaper this morning and it actually sums up the typical Berlin mentality to the attack that Trump will never get.....Berlin is a tough gritty blue collar acting major European city with a certain upscale flair not seen in other European capitals...and with it's own mind set.

    Passt mal auf, ihr Radikal-Spinner: Das heir is Berlin. WIR sind Berlin....Manche von uns sind Turken....Oder Russen. Oder Amerikaner. Pakistani, ja!!! Oder sogar Baden-Wuettemberger.

    Angst vor Euch?!. Dream on, Puss....s!. Ihr koennt uns mal!
    Another example...last night the neo right group AfD tried to play the race card at a demonstration ...only 200 of their supporters showed up and a spontaneous counter demo drew over 2000....who booed them into the ground.

    A well known German journalist who has worked the US and France said this in an interview yesterday...

    When something like this happens in the US there are large crowd gatherings....when it happened in France they sang the Marseillaise extra loud and the streets of Paris were empty and there were snipers on the roof tops....

    WHEN it happens in Berlin....Berliners act as they always do in a serious moment...they simply are totally not impressed and go about their daily lives and routine....nothing seems to bring them into a panic...maybe it has to do with their history of being a divided city for over 45 years...and two wars and being bombed into the ground and having to deal with millions of war refugees.....

    BTW....there have been absolutely no wave of hotel and travel cancellations to Berlin...if anything they have increased over the last two days....when a German couple not from Berlin were asked why they felt secure after the attack..."your police and fire department acted in such a professional way and even with machine pistols and body armor they are so friendly and smiling"....
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    A leading French political scientist Olivier Roy from Paris well known for his studies and research into the radicalization of refugees and radicalization in general for over 20 years ....openly challenged Trump and many US commenters in their statements on refugees and Muslims in general........

    There has been not a single recorded attack in Europe that was committed by a true registered refugee and or a member of that family...none whatsoever.....

    Did and does IS and even AQ use the human smuggling route to slide their fighters back into Europe yes they did and still do....but these individuals are not the same as a true refugee...

    Most of the attacks in at least Germany do/did not require an extensive logistics support group....and were often spontaneous in nature and not well planned out by those individuals radicalized before coming to say Germany...

    Or they came out of immigrant families who basically had become German citizens and or were living/working for long periods inside Germany...the same exact thing occurred in France....

    NONE of the current IS attacks were carried out by true registered refugees....

    THAT is something Trump seriously needs to think about and fully understand in his demands for register all Muslims and ban all Muslims from entering the US.....

    ALL he is doing is in fact playing the dog whistles of blatant racism.....AND providing IS and AQ excellent propaganda that proves them correct in their assessments of the West....

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