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    Adam, did I miss it, or did the article only state Chinese Communist Magazine and didn't reference an issue or link? India's media is famous for drumming up good stories disassociated from facts, which unfortunately colors the few good news stories they uncover.

    Also important is who wrote it, and who the intended audience really was. We have some pretty provocative opinion pieces in our journals also, and they don't represent State policy. Not down playing this, just requesting more information.

    Loved the comment in the article, "flies do not stare at seamless eggs".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    Not down playing this, just requesting more information.
    Bob,
    Google is your friend. 'Quishi-Journal' search term, published 1st & 16th of the month. There's probably a full translation up on OpenSource.gov but knowing the Indian press, the article probably had the bulk of the Chicom text in it already.

    http://www.oriprobe.com/qiushi_en.html

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    U.S. “strategic priorities and interests will increasingly emanate from the Asia-Pacific region.” For “decades to come” the military will keep a robust presence in Northeast Asia. Across Southeast Asia and the Pacific, the U.S. will “seek new ways to catalyze greater regional security cooperation,” including with traditional Chinese allies like Vietnam.
    Mullen to China - We're Staying In Your Backyard - Danger Room

    The childish burblings of both China and the United States are becoming wearisome. Frankly, I would have expected better of the US, but there ya go.

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    It's operated by a bunch of wannabe's whose greatest claim to fame is that they can rouse rabble...

    That's merely one guys interpretation of the NMS / CJCS comments and his writings are not the position of the US Government -- for that matter, neither are the comments of the Chairman of the JCS necessarily indicative of that position.

    Our so-called news media babbles a lot and rarely do they actually reflect a true position of the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    Our so-called news media babbles a lot and rarely do they actually reflect a true position of the government.
    I stand corrected. It's good to know some folks can still tell the difference between white and wong. Or something like that. Anyhoo...

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    Perhaps one of the reasons for its strength is the role of PLA-owned companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    It's operated by a bunch of wannabe's ...
    Maybe you can provide something substantial on the article to make up for the dirty ad hominem attack?


    Wired's Danger Room is the most visited MilBlog, with articles by journalists and former military personnel. We could ignore it - but by that standard one ought to ignore almost all sources, ending up with a completely unsatisfactory choice of information sources.

    What's worse; it's a very questionable approach to consider only the government itself as a source for info about the government's intent.
    Imagine this: Governments lie, and it's the press' job to expose lies and misleading statements - or to comment on vague statements.

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    "including with traditional Chinese allies like Vietnam."

    Hmm. You learn something new everyday.
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    Americans seem to use the words "ally" and "allies" very loosely in many contexts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Maybe you can provide something substantial on the article to make up for the dirty ad hominem attack?
    Ad Hom it certainly was -- but not dirty IMO. I can get dirty but rarely do -- here.

    As for something substantial, I thought I did provide that -- I simply said the Blogger's opinions were not the position of the US Government. If you know otherwise, let us know.
    Wired's Danger Room is the most visited MilBlog, with articles by journalists and former military personnel. We could ignore it - but by that standard one ought to ignore almost all sources, ending up with a completely unsatisfactory choice of information sources.
    You got me on that one -- ignore's a bad choice of words...

    Or would have been if I had used it. I did not; I wrote "Don't pay a whole lot of attention to that Blog." Not the same thing. In essence I said do not take anything written there as definitive. That also applies to anything written here -- and by me. And you...

    I also read the Blog; not overly impressed with it but I read it in order to know what the cognoscenti are thinking. We all need a chuckle now and then and they do get a good scoop on occasion. That does not mean they or any blog, media outlet or source are always totally believable or accurate. As for 'Danger Room,' on an accuracy scale, I'd give it 6 or 7 out of 10, it's better than most (you get an 8 or 9...) -- none are perfect (no 10s). Nor am I (Registering at 8.052941).
    All of us should read multiple, preferably competing and /or disagreeing sources and then make up our own minds. I'm sure you do that.

    So do others.
    What's worse; it's a very questionable approach to consider only the government itself as a source for info about the government's intent.

    Imagine this: Governments lie, and it's the press' job to expose lies and misleading statements - or to comment on vague statements.
    All true and I didn't say otherwise. I did say that the CJCS also did not speak for the US Government.

    Note that I did not say, as you imply, that whatever the US Government said was to be taken as the entire truth and that I have on numerous occasions on this Board said that it often dissembled and obfuscated, sometimes for good reason, sometimes stupidly -- and often because that Government is quite large and frequently one Agency doesn't know what another is doing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    That does not mean they or any blog, media outlet or source are always totally believable or accurate. As for 'Danger Room,' on an accuracy scale, I'd give it 6 or 7 out of 10, it's better than most (you get an 8 or 9...) -- none are perfect (no 10s).
    Flattery in a discussion - you seem to add rhetoric tricks even at high age.


    Btw, it's not always the used words that count, but the impressions they leave on others.
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