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Old 06-20-2017   #481
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I don't think so.

I believe that the Iranian strike was not for the benefit of Daesh. Given Iran's presence on the ground in Iraq and Syria, with the IRGC operating along with Iraq's PMUs and effectively leading the Syrian "National Defense Forces", why would Teheran have waited until after it was attacked to make a significant strike against Daesh?

No, the missile strike was to signal Iran's resolve to the United States and to Pakistan. The latter has been the traditional sponsor of Sunni Islamists in Iran, and yet its sponsored groups were curiously quiet during Obama's tenure, despite the Iranian-inflicted carnage in Syria. Perhaps Trump has greenlit Islamabad to set Iran ablaze?
Azor...you have to get your facts straight for a change...."greenlit Islamabad"...the last comments coming out of the Trump WH is just the opposite...a massive hardening of US positions AGAINST Pakistan.....
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U.S. Central Command‏
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U.S. aircraft shoots down armed Shaheed-129 pro-Syrian #UAV advancing on Coalition forces near #alTanf #Syria
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Old 06-20-2017   #483
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Footage
of Hezbollah-affiliated TV: More and more #Iranian armed forces equipment is seen in the Syrian desert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaYixnXo_0#
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NE. #Hama: pro-Assad ambushed by #ISIS near Sheikh Hilal (NE #Salamiyah), leaving many casualties & T-62 knocked out
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...500458&z=11&m#
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Old 06-20-2017   #485
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Default Your Russian Laugh of the Day

https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/877152860089323522

Video footage of a Russian helicopter striking Daesh shown on a mobile device to Oliver Stone by Vladimir Putin appears to be a video from a U.S. helicopter raid in Afghanistan from 2013.

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Azor...you have to get your facts straight for a change...."greenlit Islamabad"...the last comments coming out of the Trump WH is just the opposite...a massive hardening of US positions AGAINST Pakistan.....
Outlaw,

What happens in public and what happens behind closed doors are two very different things. In addition, Washington's view of Pakistan's activities with regard to the Pashtuns straddling the Durand Line and Pakistan's activities with regard to the Sunnis and/or Balochis in Iran are two very different things.

Try to keep up, mon ami.
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Old 06-21-2017   #487
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Outlaw,

What happens in public and what happens behind closed doors are two very different things. In addition, Washington's view of Pakistan's activities with regard to the Pashtuns straddling the Durand Line and Pakistan's activities with regard to the Sunnis and/or Balochis in Iran are two very different things.

Try to keep up, mon ami.
BUT WAIT...did not Pakistan openly as did Turkey "side with Qatar"...which if I recall the Trump series of tweets is the kingmaster of funding of terrorism...right???

So "greenlit" get real.....

And if I recall Trump and his merry band in the WH also wanted to name MB as terrorists after his KSA visit BUT if I also recall Tillerson pulled him back and stated MB sits officially in some governments.....

"Greenlit"....really...
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Rumors that Russia established a military base near the Iraq-Syria border northeast of al-Tanf #Syria
http://palmyra-monitor.net/2017/06/21/%D9
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Russian regime news keep lying, claiming #Assad jets bomb #ISIS in #Damascus' #Jobar district.
IS has never been there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYcn7RGEQc#
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Outlaw,

What happens in public and what happens behind closed doors are two very different things. In addition, Washington's view of Pakistan's activities with regard to the Pashtuns straddling the Durand Line and Pakistan's activities with regard to the Sunnis and/or Balochis in Iran are two very different things.

Try to keep up, mon ami.
Azor...that "Greenlit".....

Turkish troops now reportedly in Qatar amid row between Doha + Saudi Arabia
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/wor...74/story.html#

BTW....Pakistan has also indicated they would send troops....
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Old 06-22-2017   #491
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Russia is still trying to claim al Baghdadi as being killed by RUAF....even though their FM stated we are not 100% sure.....

Russian dep foreign minister: MoD says there is “high degree of certainty” that Rus air force killed Isis leader al-Baghdadi at end of May.
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Old 06-22-2017   #492
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Default Drones Are Dropping Like Flies From the Sky Over Syria

By Tom Cooper at War is Boring: https://warisboring.com/drones-are-d...ky-over-syria/

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Syria is buzzing with drones. There are days when the people of Idlib governorate can simultaneously see Russian Orlan tactical UAVs, Iranian Ababil, Mohajeer and Shahed-129s and CIA or U.S. Air Force MQ-9 Reapers circling the same air space.

It’s not much different over southern Syria. There it’s Hezbollah from Lebanon, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, Israel, Jordan and the United States that are operating UAVs.

Frankly, I ceased counting all the shoot-downs of various mini-UAVs over Syria ages ago. Small commercial-style drones are relatively easy to knock out with small-arms fire. But considering the crowd of larger UAVs, it’s hardly surprising that the various combatants have begun shooting these down, too.
Highlights:
  • U.S. aircraft actually began shooting down Iranian UAVs over Iraq 8 years ago
  • The SyAAF has shot down UAVs operated by Israel (as far back as 2006) and Jordan
  • Despite CJTF-OIR claims that the IRGC Shahed-129 UAV shot down on June 20, 2017 was armed and threatening, Shahed-129 cannot carry weapons at present
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11 weapons used by Russia's elite Spetsnaz operators
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Artem Gorelov from Izhevsk, Russia, who earlier fought for Ru-backed rebels in Ukraine, was killed in Syria, likely serving in "Wagner" PMC
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HAS Assad again used CWs.....


Jobar News map of the military situation in Jobar Neighborhood. Seems some kind of chemical weapon has been allegedly used on 2 fronts.
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Old 06-23-2017   #496
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Default Bitter US-Russian Standoff in Syria—More Hot Words Than Real Harm

From the Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/program/bitter...rds-real-harm/

Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 84
By: Pavel Felgenhauer


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A series of military incidents involving the United States, Russia, and their allies in Syria and the Baltic region have additionally hurt already strained US-Russian relations. As sign of its acute displeasure, Moscow canceled high-level talks between Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov and US Undersecretary of State Thomas Shannon, which were planned for June 23, in St. Petersburg. Ryabkov lambasted the US for adding 38 individuals and organizations to its list of sanctions “as a political gift” to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who visited Washington this week (June 20) and met with President Donald Trump at the White House. According to Ryabkov, “There is nothing to discuss fruitfully with Washington today.” Ryabkov accused the Trump administration of supporting “the party of war in Kiyv” and of “following the lead of prominent Russophobes in the US Congress” (Mid.ru, June 21). The cancelation of the St. Petersburg round of Ryabkov-Shannon talks calls into question plans for the first face-to-face meeting between Trump and President Vladimir Putin, on the sidelines of the upcoming (July 7–8) G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.
The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed displeasure over:
  • The shooting down of the Syrian Su-22 on June 18
  • The US base near al-Tanf, with special forces and HIMARS artillery
  • The shooting down of two Iranian UAVs
  • The bombing of pro-Assad armored columns (twice)

However, Russia has not attempted to hold U.S. aircraft operating around al-Tanf at risk...
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From the Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/program/bitter...rds-real-harm/

Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 84
By: Pavel Felgenhauer


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The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed displeasure over:
  • The shooting down of the Syrian Su-22 on June 18
  • The US base near al-Tanf, with special forces and HIMARS artillery
  • The shooting down of two Iranian UAVs
  • The bombing of pro-Assad armored columns (twice)

However, Russia has not attempted to hold U.S. aircraft operating around al-Tanf at risk...
JUST a side comment...what we are actually seeing in Syria is not an Obama nor a Trump and his merry band FP....

We are seeing a SecDef Mattis FP backed up by AIM 9s.....and specific Iranian counter air strikes.....to enforce a red line policy.

The Mattis FP problem begins the exact day he attempts to take back under control those advanced weapon systems given to the PKK....after Raqqa...
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Rebels have killed an #Assad Brigadier General and many other #Assad fighters at #Madinat_al_Baath today.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=33...5469&z=14&m=b#
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Syria: Rebels launched the offensive "Road to #Damascus" in #Quneitra Province. #Israel has destroyed regime artillery and tanks today.

Rebel gains Ba'ath City #Quneitra:
• Bridge Detachment
• Mubashrat al-Hajar
• Fire Tower
• Quarries
• al-'Arbaein
• Governate Building


Israeli aircraft targeted two syrian tanks and other Syrian army Sites in Quneitra

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In response to over 10 projectiles launched from Syria, IAF aircraft targeted origin of launches & 2 Syrian tanks

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JUST a side comment...what we are actually seeing in Syria is not an Obama nor a Trump and his merry band FP....

We are seeing a SecDef Mattis FP backed up by AIM 9s.....and specific Iranian counter air strikes.....to enforce a red line policy.

The Mattis FP problem begins the exact day he attempts to take back under control those advanced weapon systems given to the PKK....after Raqqa...
I would disagree that Mattis has a specific foreign policy that he is executing. However, Mattis is an obviously good interlocutor with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Combatant Commanders. What we are observing is a continuation of Obama's policies with regard to Syria, albeit with the military empowered tactically.

Where Trump and Obama differ is on Iran. I doubt that Trump will unilaterally abrogate the JCPOA, given the advice of the foreign policy, intelligence and defense communities, however, he will not kowtow to Iran's adventures in Iraq and Syria merely to ensure that Iran upholds it.
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