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    And while Washington and Brussels debate sanctions and protest in the United Nations, Moscow continues with its plan to secure Crimea from Ukraine. Russia is not going to budge. Russia's decisive and rapid use of hard power overcame many years and millions of dollars of soft power invested by the United States. With the political situation in the country, is Ukraine any more likely to join NATO or the EU as it was before the fall of Yanukovych's government? I doubt it. And now the country is facing economic crisis and a significant military threat to its territorial integrity. Though I'm skeptical, this event should encourage us to reexamine the basic assumptions of our foreign policy.
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    mirhond---I know you know this old Stalin/KGB saying;

    "One person is a demonstration, Two people a riot and Three people a revolution"

    So will the long line at your bank exchanging Rubels for USDs/Euros today be a demonstration, a riot or a revolution? What Progress?

    By the way you forgot to mention that those that have a red banner on their arms could also be the old Guard Soviet auxiliary police---so they could have been communists right as their was nothing else in the photo to identify.

    Have enjoyed your KGB propaganda---keep sending the articles and photos and your comments as it is easier to indicate where one is misleading.

    Enjoy the waiting in line at your bank for the coming weeks--
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPride View Post
    And while Washington and Brussels debate sanctions and protest in the United Nations, Moscow continues with its plan to secure Crimea from Ukraine. Russia is not going to budge. Russia's decisive and rapid use of hard power overcame many years and millions of dollars of soft power invested by the United States. With the political situation in the country, is Ukraine any more likely to join NATO or the EU as it was before the fall of Yanukovych's government? I doubt it. And now the country is facing economic crisis and a significant military threat to its territorial integrity. Though I'm skeptical, this event should encourage us to reexamine the basic assumptions of our foreign policy.
    Maybe. I think the more important question is if Ukraine and Poland are going to reexamine theirs.
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    Mirhond, me fine young fellows. I've only been gone a few hours and I see you have given up. You've gone from trying to convince us to simple name calling and bluster. Come on guy, you let a bunch of old men beat you. You gotta do better than that. I know that defending the siloviki is an almost impossible task but you can do better. Come on boys! Give it a go.
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    Again Americans. Now with their 2 UAV shot down in Crimea. All news in Russian. Sorry. Newsru finds info from Rosteh site, who blames Warsonline, which cites Anaga (who has heard about this site? Like Indian Patriot newspaper in the AIDS case?).

    Newsru http://www.newsru.com/world/14mar2014/nopilotnik.html

    Rosteh http://rostec.ru/news/4416

    http://warsonline.info/ukraine/ameri...ad-krimom.html

    http://www.anaga.ru/sbit-mq-5b.html

    Warsonline cites also to Crimean News. Local self defence forces (cover name for Russian units) and police unit Berkut saw first UAV and destroyed it.

    http://warsonline.info/ukraine/nad-k...pom-sbiti-dva-

    http://komtv.org/21582-v-krymu-sbili...j-bespilotnik/

    Americans deny all.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/pentagon-russ...e-false-156157

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