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    Firing Comey had nothing to do with the Russia probe, except Trump told Lavrov that Russia-probe pressure was off.
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    So there was no "blowback" on the Trump massive security failure????

    REPORT: Israeli intelligence officials were shouting at U.S. counterparts in meetings over Trump's SNAFU
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/19/...a-iran-syria/#

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    Hate to say this but it actually reflects what many Germans young and old think right now about Trump and his WH...they view him as a threat to Germany and EU.....

    German magazine @DerSPIEGEL calls for #Trump to be removed in editorial
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...1.html#…
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    Asked if Trump's comments could be construed as intent to interfere in the FBI probe, a DOJ official told @dailybeast: “absolutely.”
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    I'm guessing this was probably the intercept that inspired Yates to reach out to WH counsel

    Some say Trump even after firing Flynn was trying to find a place for him somewhere in USG....

    This is an utterly striking statement about the man who Trump appointed as his NSA --> Russian officials "regarded Flynn as an ally."

    The Russians were right: Flynn's pro-Kremlin stance on allying w/Russia to "fight ISIS" (ie, prop up Assad) is still Trump's go-to position.
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    WH lawyers believe Trump is safe from impeachment for now- not b/c he hasn't committed any impeachable acts, but b/c GOP still has his back.

    This is actually true when one thinks about it.....
    Subscribers of the NYT, WaPo, CNN & other social media publications are paying for the investigations and oversight that the U.S. Congress won't conduct.
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    More than 500 of the 557 govt positions requiring Senate confirmation remain vacant (hard to govern with no staff)
    http://reut.rs/2qAzpya

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    Mueller's broad authority extends to Trump’s business empire, where Russian money & influence likely reside
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...storylink=cpy#

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    Andrew S. Weiss‏#@andrewsweiss

    Trump's "nut job" Comey comments shouldn't overshadow fact he also threw #Ukraine under bus in mtg w Russians
    https://nyti.ms/2rAuDyn

    Trump's saying he doesn't really care about Russian aggression in #Ukraine is staggering. Pulls rug out from under Western policy.

    As I pointed out the other day: fact that Trump team was secretly talking to pro-Moscow Ukraine gray cardinal V.Medvedchuk explains a lot about why Trump's position on #Ukraine/Crimea have been so over the top and aligned with Kremlin talking points

    You can re-read that thread and Reuters piece by @nedmparker1 abt secret contacts w Kremlin & judge for yourself

    I've shied away from yelling "gotcha" re collusion but it's hard to find another term for Trump's comments abt #Ukraine to FM Lavrov

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    Here's something. Manafort received money from Ukrainian oligarchs Yanukovych and Firtash that was put into a Caymans offshore account. They used a Cyprus bank to launder it. That Caymans account is what made up the Trump Casino financial umbrella from 2008-2010 for $2.97 billion.

    Yanukovych is the former president of Ukraine but I refer to him as an oligarch deliberately.

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    Someone edited Wikipedia to remove Trump from Joe Lieberman's law firm's list of clients. Check out the same acct's last edit, 1 of 2 others
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    ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT being considered by Judiciary Committee

    Multiple sources close to the intelligence, justice and law enforcement communities say that the House Judiciary Committee is considering Articles of Impeachment against the President of the United States.
    Sources say that Donald Trump has been informed. A notification that ‘a case of impeachment’ had been commenced against him was delivered, abating his Presidential powers of pardon.
    Sources further say that the Supreme Court notified Mr. Trump that the formal process of a case of impeachment against him was begun, before he departed the country on Air Force One
    . The notification was given in order that Mr. Trump not be able to use his powers of pardon against other suspects in Trump-Russia cases.
    It was reported this week that Mr. Trump had texted Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn the message ‘Stay strong’. This might be interpreted as an attempt to intimidate a witness, sources say.
    Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein met with the House Judiciary Committee this week in closed session
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    Don't forget Trump registered 8 companies in Saudi Arabia during campaign—
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-saudi-arabia#

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    Donald Trump just signed a $110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia, a country he accused less than a year ago of masterminding 9/11
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Donald Trump just signed a $110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia, a country he accused less than a year ago of masterminding 9/11
    Your posts are increasingly partisan, illogical, and rely on poor source material. Didn't you recently post about the danger of looking at the world through biased lenses? You either changed or you were a poor interrogator.

    Your post on the blog:

    You actually then do not even have to have any training....talking and listening are far more important than training....

    BUT most of all UNDERSTAND your own personal biases ..........and then learn to turn them off when looking at the world...

    Biases tend to color our view of what we are seeing and trying to understand....and they do not allow one to fully "see and understand"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    Your posts are increasingly partisan, illogical, and rely on poor source material. Didn't you recently post about the danger of looking at the world through biased lenses? You either changed or you were a poor interrogator.

    Your post on the blog:
    Bill..you are getting into an area that you do not know my experience...Offensive CI investigations and interrogations....AND THUS my personal opinions.......

    Part of the work of a Strategic Debriefer (JAROC-B) in Cold War Berlin was the fishing out of all refugees low and mid level MfS Stasi agents and or "IM" informal agents who would be tasked if and when Stasi needed them...

    In the entire CI investigations conducted in Berlin by the US military there were only two US civilians in Berlin Bde allowed to interact with the German authorities for name checks and background information checks...... myself and a retired SF SGM....

    Day after day I did this for years...AND when I shifted to 766th MID the premier Berlin active duty offensive CI unit I and one other retired SF SGM were responsible for all German police checks and we were tasked with all TS/SCI clearance reviews for the Det A, PSSE and all members of the Potsdam MLM and the Army Security Agency who worked primarily with NSA on Tuefelsberg.

    During that period of my life I uncovered roughly 55 low and mid level Stasi IMs during the refugee process and handled three top level Polish SP/Spetsnaz agents who had decided after being caught in their stories with me to "remain in the West" and I handled a number of GDR Border Command soldiers who crossed over the border.

    During that period I and the other retired SF CI investigator also sent home four SF PSSE for prior problems we discovered in their TS clearances that had not be picked up by SF at Bragg, and we rejected TS clearances for three ASA COLs and sent them home because while we could not prove espionage we could prove money laundering and smuggling and collusion with a Soviet GRU COL...

    Here is a tip when US military personnel start to amass a large collection of valuable stamps, historical model trains and or rare coins...pay extremely close attention.

    During that period I was one of only three US personnel allowed to train with the German Military Intelligence MAD and the second one was the retired SF SGM as well ...requirement was fluent German and a solid background in intel....

    After that training series we became rabbits/trainers for CIA types heading to Moscow as part of their train up prior to deployment....

    During that period we broke up in a GRU recruitment attempt run by the highest Soviet GRU officer working out of the Soviet East Berlin Embassy, handled the CI investigation of a 766th SFC CI agent who definitely was working for the Soviets.

    I detected and had arrested a Soviet mole working out of Portugal who was selling ASA and Potsdam MLM and PSSE life insurance who had left Berlin for UK in 1931...when even the 766th doubted the information.

    So heck yes I have a personal grudge against Americans who have turned against their own country mainly these days for money....

    When the "CI intel indicators" are there you follow them...and follow them hard and heavy...

    BTW we are in this mess because after the Wall came down the CI efforts by the US simply disappeared over night.....

    Right now I count a total of 15 individuals who have been either tied to Russian officials suspects of being agents and or have tie business money ties to Russian oligarchs....all in and around Trump to include Trump....

    So when he constantly repeats he has had no Russian business ties then what the heck is 120M USDs doing flowing in from Russia for Trump real estate..the most favorite way for Russian oligarchs to money launder and what are his sons doing stating the entire Trump golf empire is built largely on Russian oligarch investments....

    So if I sound harsh, or political, or aggressive I keep remembering a oath I took every time I was promoted as a CWO..."to defend the Constitution from domestic and foreign threats"....and it was the same oath as a civil servant....

    Appears though that many around the Trump WH and Trump himself do not hold that oath to a "certain standard".

    BTW I will give you a history lesson....

    When some of us recovered the entire MfS Stasi records for their foreign espionage operations and shipped them back to the US for research a number of US citizens were then charged quietly with espionage...another potential 100 US citizens were estimated to have been working for the Stasi but there was not enough of a paper trail to ID them and they are still there....

    As to the dubious sources ......right now social media has in fact broken far more around the Trump Russian connection than has MSM....

    1. first ID'd the existence of a FISA warrant being issued when no one was talking about it and then ID'd the additional FISA warrants when MSM laughed about it
    2. first ID'd the existence of THREE Grand Juries working on the Trump investigation which has been verified by DoJ and the Congressional public hearings and now MSM
    3. first broke to the story actually minutes before the acutal FBI raid on a GOP Consulting company with ties to Russian money and Manafort...MSM took two days to report it...they even named the FBI location from where the raid started
    4. first broke the story that Muller was already at work minutes after Comey was fired by Trump
    5. broke the story that 12 are under sealed indictments and another 42 are potentially as well....BTW indirectly confirmed by MSM.
    6. first broke the names of the Federal Districts handling the three Grand Juries which now have been covered by MSM

    So yes I am fully aware of my personal beliefs....but when it comes to Americans working for the Soviets and or Russia my deep CI experiences kick in and my ears go up....simply because for money they are willing to sell you and me out.....right now those being looked at by FBI/USG IC have been involved in millions of USDs.....not the usual 3K that GRU or SVR first offers a low level American.....

    When the FBI/USG IC investigation dust settles on Trump and his advisors then we can revisit this comment....and see if I was right and or wrong....

    Remember even the DoJ briefings to Congress are indicating 1) Russian collusion, 2) criminal meaning money laundering/RICO, 3) cover up

    AND that is not me saying this.....

    BTW..check your CI history...myself and the retired SF SGM during a number of bring ups we conducted on a ASA CWO James Hall who worked at Tuefelsberg...we tried hard to get the intel community interested in the fact that he had way to much money for his rank and salary and made a number of trips as a "military tourist" into East Berlin.....and then disappeared for periods of time from the military tour group....

    BUT no one paid attention to our arguments and what we had found.....for me a personal failure because we could not get anyone interested....and we knew we had solid information.

    The case against Hall apparently began based on a tip from Manfred Severin (code-named Canna Clay), a Stasi instructor who acted as a translator and courier for James Hall. Rejected by the German Staatschutz and the CIA, Army Foreign Counterintelligence (FCA) eventually sponsored him because he had a big tip about James Hall. After James Hall was apprehended, Severin was exfiltrated to the West with his family.[5]

    After his arrest, Hall said there were many indicators visible to those around him that he was involved in questionable activity. Hall's activities inflicted grave damage on U.S. signals intelligence and he is considered the "perpetrator of one of the most costly and damaging breaches of security of the long Cold War"[6]

    Hall confessed to giving his handlers information on the US Military Liaison Mission (USMLM)'s tank photography on New Year's Eve in 1984.[7] On March 24, 1985, while on an illegal inspection tour of Soviet military facilities in Ludwigslust, German Democratic Republic, US Army Major Arthur D. Nicholson, Jr., an unarmed member of the USMLM, was shot to death by a Soviet sentry.that said no to us had shown some faith in

    NOTE Nicholson had photographed the very first T80 seen in GDR and was going back the second time....so Hall was also responsible for killing an US officer...the USG could have stopped this and his spying far earlier had those in power had a little more faith in our information .......and our track record....
    Check out then what happened to James Hall....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hall_III

    BTW If you noticed the posting on the SC.......the poster got bashed for it....with the excuse that is not the way it works...but behold it is the way it works... many Americans do not understand the role of the SC in impeachment since WG and how many really still remember all the details of Watergate??

    We are long past anything close to Watergate with this FBI and USG CI investigation....WHEN the words "person of special interest" is used..that person has some serious problems....or at least he is going to be in for heavy questioning at the very least....

    Remember at the very least this FBI CI investigation as well as data collection by USG IC has been ongoing since at least May of 2016....what we are seeing is now the end not the beginning of an investigation.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Andrew S. Weiss‏#@andrewsweiss

    Trump's "nut job" Comey comments shouldn't overshadow fact he also threw #Ukraine under bus in mtg w Russians
    https://nyti.ms/2rAuDyn

    Trump's saying he doesn't really care about Russian aggression in #Ukraine is staggering. Pulls rug out from under Western policy.

    As I pointed out the other day: fact that Trump team was secretly talking to pro-Moscow Ukraine gray cardinal V.Medvedchuk explains a lot about why Trump's position on #Ukraine/Crimea have been so over the top and aligned with Kremlin talking points

    You can re-read that thread and Reuters piece by @nedmparker1 abt secret contacts w Kremlin & judge for yourself

    I've shied away from yelling "gotcha" re collusion but it's hard to find another term for Trump's comments abt #Ukraine to FM Lavrov
    Bill....while everyone got heated about Trump revealing CODE WORD information to the Russians this particular comment to the Russian FM carries far more damaging weight than the "revealing of a spy to the Russians" ever did...

    This comment is being used by Trump to signal to the Russians that he will allow them freedom of doing whatever they want to in Ukraine....

    Seems he needs to see this film that is now playing in DC....

    BTW...this named Ukrainian oligarch was behind the recent news story of a Ukrainian peace plan that was being provided to Flynn before he was fired and the Trump personal lawyer Cohen was at the dinner when it was presented....BTW the pro-Moscow Ukraine gray cardinal V.Medvedchuk is extremely close to Putin.....

    AND after this Trump comment to Lavrov...the Russian attacks along the UAF front lines has increased markedly....where they are experiencing 4-10 WIAs daily and between 50-70 attacks daily up from 30-40.

    Due to enemy shelling by Russia's troops in Donbas, 7 Ukrainian soldiers WIA over the past day. 4 the day before....
    GOOD NEWS: Over the past 9 days, zero Ukrainian soldiers were killed by the Kremlin's hybrid army.
    BAD NEWS: 37 troops were injured though.
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    Bill...what is being missed is how close the proTrump twitter world is matching and in many cases using Russian troll tweets....AND vice versa....

    Words/complete sentences used in Russian troll tweets suddenly show up in proTrump tweets and or on alt right proTrump sites.....

    The Hill

    @thehill
    Top Trump aide accuses news media of "propaganda"
    http://hill.cm/aOMhmP8

    Russia has unleashed a massive influence campaign as part of their political war against the US the is supported by cyber warfare and information warfare and then top Trump aid talks about US MSM "propaganda"...????

    Not realizing how deeply proTrump twitter accounts and alt ie white nationalist blogsites are tied to Russian "propaganda"????

    President Trump's counterterrorism adviser on Friday denounced media reports about ongoing investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia as "propaganda."
    "It’s not news, it’s not reporting, it’s just propaganda," deputy assistant to the president Sebastian Gorka said on Fox News' "Hannity."
    "We have a mission that we had approved by the American people, and we’re executing it."
    Gorka, who before joining the Trump administration was a national security editor for the far-right Breitbart News, has been a vocal critic of the media's coverage of the Trump administration and has defended the president's frequent accusations that journalists who cover his administration critically are "fake news."

    Gorka's comments follow a particularly tumultuous 10 days for the White House, which has faced numerous controversies in the wake of FBI Director James Comey's abrupt firing last week.
    The Washington Post reported on Monday that Trump divulged highly classified information to visiting Russian officials a day after ousting Comey, and a subsequent New York Times report revealed that the president had asked Comey in February to shut down the FBI's investigation into fired national security adviser Michael Flynn.
    The House and Senate intelligence committees are probing the Trump campaign's alleged ties to Moscow, and the FBI is conducting its own investigation into the matter. Before he was fired, Comey was charged with overseeing that probe.
    Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed a special counsel to lead the FBI investigation on Wednesday – a move Trump has denounced as a "witch hunt" that "hurts our country."
    The Trump administration has long had an antagonistic relationship with members of the press, and Trump has floated in recent days the possibility of ending daily White House press briefings
    What is amazing is that this individual resigned recently his position as Special Advisor to Trump because the same MSM he declares to be using "propaganda" outed his ultra right Nazi Hungarian background AFTER social media had been pointing it out of months..
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    Notice Gorka does not shout "propaganda" when it comes from Russian media outlets....

    Twitter thread in which Russia propaganda organ admits it's part of machinery for spreading lies about US

    BTW...the story that Rt is referring to was first released by FOX News then made it to Infowars and on to Breitbart.com and even in the Russian FM UK tweets THAT then cycled back into the proTrump alt right twitter accounts..
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    Preibus is not coming back early. He's coming back a day after leaving. It's a huge fffing deal. You do not simply fly to KSA for a day and return....for fun and games...

    He us being told to come for a FBI interview.....some say reference GOP money laundering....

    OR

    Voter suppression maybe?
    The RNC paid Sproul's firm $1.2 million dollars in the 2016 election cycle. Reince Priebus said he didn't know.
    http://fortune.com/2016/11/05/trump-rnc-voter-fraud/#…

    Trump's campaign paid Sproul's firm $600,000 in the 2016 election cycle
    http://fec.gov#).

    Sproul's efforts for RNC in 2012, after being hired by Reince, were under criminal investigation in FL, VA, and CO.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1457...2-Memo#…

    Despite Sproul's criminal record/infamy, the Trump campaign & the RNC hired him during the 2016 election season!

    2012 Memo from Robert Bauer, Gen. Counsel to OFA & the DNC re: GOP affiliated voter suppression groups.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1457...2-Memo#…

    Personal relationship btwn. Reince & Sproul dates back to 2008 in Wisconsin. Are they still closely allied?
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1457...2-Memo#…

    Sproul's voter suppression for GOP was problematic enough to catch attention of House Judiciary Committee and DOJ.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1457...2-Memo#…

    Interesting- Sproul's org was based in AZ, but registered in VA. Shared an address w/ Karl Rove's SuperPAC.
    http://kdvr.com/2012/11/01/voter-reg...ation/#…

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