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    Quote Originally Posted by outlaw
    Waiting AP---have gone over all of your responses in the thread and I am not exactly sure what you would suggest doing if the author is correct that the Russian troops are already over the border.
    My suggestion was and remains: negotiate. The coercive tools available to the U.S. are not sufficient to fully dislodge Russia from Ukraine. Nor is Ukraine the exclusive or primary security interest of the U.S. The only reason why policy discussions in recent weeks have drifted to talks about increasing U.S. security commitments to Europe is to signal to NATO's eastern European members that they won't be left in the lurch - it has nothing to do with actually restoring Ukraine's territorial integrity.

    You not only advocate aggressively reversing Russia's gains, but also to disarm Russia entirely. Despite repeated questions from Dayuhan on how that could be achieved, you have been silent in answering how you would disarm a nuclear state, and do so without further threatening U.S. security interests in Europe and elsewhere. Russia gave us a black eye in Ukraine - I can acknowledge that without recommending that we rush to war against Moscow. Now is the time to assess how Russia's new gains can be marginalized or minimized, since reversing them is out of reach, a war between the U.S. and Russia will do no one any good (including the Ukrainians).

    Frankly, your ideas are poorly thought-out and would only lead to further erosions in U.S. security.
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 08-12-2014 at 09:10 PM. Reason: Edited slightly or completly by Moderator to enable thread to be reopened
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