Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
Thus, your point that if we act morally, it turns out okay and that if we start morally and then go to a lower moral plane, we screw it up is not correct -- with respect to those three, it's backward in fact. All three were entered on morally suspect grounds but turned out alright for us.
That just doesn't make sense.

1- The Revolutionary War-remember The Declaration of Independence....The right of the People to alter and or Abolish it,etc. classic morality.

2-Civil War-again classic morality. The South wanted to separate from the Union which is illegal and Honest Abe fulfilled his 1st responsibility per the Constitution....."Form a more Perfect Union". And after the War he began Reconstruction again classic morality.

3-FDR - had to fight the 2nd World War because Wilson was so immoral in the first World War by being so oppressive of Germany after the War that he guaranteed a second World War. Unlike FDR who through the Marshall plan helped to rebuild Germany and Europe and avoid future conflict, again classic morality.
Wilson also created the Federal Reserve Board again a classic act of immorality and the source of many of our current financial problems. In fact he was so bad he thought he had ruined the country.

Link to his own quote about the Federal Reserve.....

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Woodrow_Wilson