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    U.S., EU ready new sanctions to deter Putin (but stop because fight ended?) Check KIA/WIA

    http://cnn.it/1HA4pRf

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    U.S., EU ready new sanctions to deter Putin (but stop because fight ended?) Check KIA/WIA

    http://cnn.it/1HA4pRf
    Pushilin says '#Ukraine on the brink of major war; situation could escalate in hours.' http://ria.ru/world/20150614/1069906480.html

    Ceasefire?
    One Ukrainian soldier killed, twenty-one wounded in Donbas in last day
    http://www.unian.info/war/1089153-on...-last-day.html … pic.twitter.com/QmenGf3mcf

    Reports of more #Ukraine casualties from todays fighting coming in:
    https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/st...21115499933697

    OSCE Recorded Disappearance of Militants' Heavy Weapons from Holding Areas http://ukraineunderattack.org/en/175...ing-areas.html … via @UaUnderAttack

    Militants fire Grad systems on Luhansk villages on Saturday
    http://www.unian.info/war/1089170-mi...-saturday.html … pic.twitter.com/08GhITGgb1

    #Ukraine: UA troops shelled by heavy artillery. Broken agreement with #Minsk:http://bit.ly/1IUdg1M pic.twitter.com/W0RFUvNtG6

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    #Russia troops attacking directly into just 1 #Donbas town isn't an offensive; when they advance deep into #Ukraine, then it's an offensive.

    AFP reporter injured in east Ukraine shelling - in English https://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp-report...154540885.html … via @yahoosg

    Russian Nazi taken POW today @JulianRoepcke pic.twitter.com/fdhol3Husc

    #LOLnews
    The "DNR"'s Basurin says, Ukrainian forces broke the ceasefire 185 times in the last 24 hours
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    Russian ground forces DPR tactical group "Somalia" (cmdr Tolstykh/"Givi") at Donetsk airport via GRU @EgoRZemtsoV pic.twitter.com/rDEV3hmLiM

    Russian ground forces LPR unit "Ghost" (ex-Mozgovoy) in Russian-occupied Donbas via GRU @EgoRZemtsoV 14 Jun pic.twitter.com/OFVSEXG7Dt

    Russian aircraft flies 500 feet above #NATO warships, officials (almost) 'very uncomfortable': http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/13/po...sea/index.html … pic.twitter.com/UVjzd74HJl

    19 Enemy Drones Recorded Over Day - Motuzyanyk http://ukraineunderattack.org/en/17531-19-en
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    Another strong evidence of #Russia special forces' presence in #Ukraine http://yle.fi/uutiset/8073906 (in Fin)

    Leaders of LPR sets miners under pressure. Work without pay, or fighting in ranks of militia. http://nv.ua/ukraine/events/glavari-...aty-53651.html … pic.twitter.com/JIbpD1pwvN

    Rodina and Novotoshkivske under shelling from Pervomaisk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/14-june...rom-pervomaisk … via @GirkinGirkin

    RUS ability to recruit volunteers to fight in Donbas is waning http://voc.tv/1QXepom pic.twitter.com/h83Aeo8CmI
    With reservists losing interest in fighting #Ukraine, will #Russia send more regulars now?

    Militants shelling of #Marinka continued throughout the day, injuring at least one civilian http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/14-june...ued-throughout

    2 Ukr troops KIA, 3 WIA in the Russian shelling of #Maryinka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/14-june...an-shelling-of
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    For two former Spetsnaz service members who Putin claimed were never on active duty and are POWs—this is a rather strange Russian action if they were in fact “former service members”???

    Friend of Erofeev: "Relatives have been isolated from the whole world. We [their friends] have also been processed. I can't say more"

    .@novaya_gazeta reporter unable to get in touch with relatives of captured Spetznaz; told by officers' friends: "They have been isolated"

    Spetznaz Alexandrov: "I was able to chat with my wife on VK only,no one answers phones. Wife deleted her profile after a few chat attempts"

    Spetznaz POW : "Ukrainian wounded soldiers are met back home as heroes. RU wounded soldiers are being hidden and disowned back home"

    RU consul told Alexandrov "We can't get in touch with your wife or relatives, either". He laughs it off as a lie.
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    FaceBook has been attacked by Ukrainian bloggers for blocking hundreds of Ukrainian FB accounts when Russia trolls challenged those accounts for so called violence or offensive subject matter. FB response to the Ukrainian complaints was basically to fluff them off and conduct business as usual.

    After sending FB numerous examples of FB actively doing the Russian info war troll work for them.

    Seems now that FB might just have gotten the message that they are being played by Russian trolls.

    The issue of account blocking is getting attention. #Facebook representative to visit #Ukraine http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...visit-ukraine/ … pic.twitter.com/OFT4RHZWII

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    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces



    WASHINGTON— Late yesterday evening, the U.S. House of Representatives considered H.R. 2685, the “Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2015.” During consideration of the legislation, Congressman John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) and Congressman Ted Yoho (R-Fla.) offered bipartisan amendments to block the training of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary militia “Azov Battalion,” and to prevent the transfer of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles—otherwise known as Man-Portable Air-Defense Systems (MANPADS)—to Iraq or Ukraine.

    “If there’s one simple lesson we can take away from US involvement in conflicts overseas, it’s this: Beware of unintended consequences. As was made vividly clear with U.S. involvement in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion decades ago, overzealous military assistance or the hyper-weaponization of conflicts can have destabilizing consequences and ultimately undercut our own national interests,” said Rep. John Conyers. “I am grateful that the House of Representatives unanimously passed my amendments last night to ensure that our military does not train members of the repulsive neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, along with my measures to keep the dangerous and easily trafficked MANPADs out of these unstable regions.”

    Ukraine’s Azov Battalion is a 1,000-man volunteer militia of the Ukrainian National Guard that Foreign Policy Magazine has characterized as “openly neo-Nazi,” and “fascist.” Ukraine’s Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who oversees Ukraine’s armed militias, announced that Azov troops would be among the first units to be trained by the Pentagon in Operation Fearless Guardian, prompting significant international concern.

    Since their initial use on a battlefield in 1978, MANPAD attacks have resulted in nearly 1,000 civilian deaths.

    Added Conyers, “Both U.S. and Israeli officials have feared that these weapons could be used by terrorists to bring down commercial jets. As the boundaries are increasingly blurred between insurgents fighting the Syrian government and those fighting the Iraqi government, providing additional arms could further destabilize the Middle East. The same can be said for Ukraine, where an anti-aircraft missile allegedly downed Flight MH17 last September, killing 298 civilians. The possibility that MANPADS—or any weapon—could fall into the hands of radical groups in Iraq, Syria, or Ukraine, would unquestionably increase the already-devastating human toll in both of these volatile regions.”

    According to Reuters, The Azov battalion originated from a paramilitary national socialist group called "Patriot of Ukraine", which propagated slogans of white supremacy, racial purity, the need for authoritarian power and a centralized national economy. Azov’s controversial founder, Andriy Biletsky, organized the neo-Nazi group the Social-National Assembly (SNA) in 2008.

    “The Azov men use the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel (Wolf’s Hook) symbol on their banner and members of the battalion are openly white supremacists, or anti-Semites,” wrote The Telegraph. Since Azov was enrolled as a regiment of Ukraine's National Guard in September and started receiving increased supplies of heavy arms, however, Biletsky has toned down his rhetoric, Reuters reported. According to the Washington Post, battalion members “could potentially strike pro-Russian targets on their own — or even turn on the [Ukrainian] government” if it pursues a diplomatic resolution to the conflict.

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