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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    It is not just Russian we are having problems with now it seems Americans are totally loose cannons wherever they are seen......

    WHAT the heck....??

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    Auschwitz Memorial condemns Rep. Clay Higgins for filming homeland security video inside gas chamber at death camp: "It's not a stage"

    http://abcn.ws/2unZY9M
    NOW this same Congressman is apologizing for his video efforts....SO what the heck was he thinking in attempting to tie the Holocaust under Nazi's to the Muslim immigrant issue???

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Forgot...he was just parroting Trump and the entire alt right ie white nationalist movement....which is very strong in LA BTW....

    SEEMS others fully understood what this LA Congressman fully meant with his video.....EVEN if he ignores it himself in his apology.....

    WHY does it take Europeans to educate US Congressmen.....in of all things history????

    "As a site for reflection, one that often evokes deep personal pain for survivors and their families, Auschwitz should never be politicized or used as a platform for giving personal views," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt said in a statement to NBC News.

    "The museum at Auschwitz-Birkenau lies on sacred ground. It is a burial site and a memorial to the estimated 1.1 million prisoners who were exterminated or tortured inside the camp's walls. It is a permanent testament to the brutality of the Nazi regime, and a reminder of why the world should never turn away when forces of hatred and prejudice lead to genocide," Greenblatt added.
    HINT...look at what you the US are currently doing...sometimes looking at your reflection in a mirror is extremely helpful....


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    NOW Trump will actually experience first hand just how Russian non linear warfare is used within say Poland which is a reflection of how this tactic is used in Russia as well....latest polling indicates that JUST 6% of Poles have any interest in the Trump visit thus no one was actually going to come at all.....thus the bussing for PR effects...


    "Trump Will Have Buses of Supporters To His Speech in Poland, Utilizing Communist Party Tactics."

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-poland...munist-632124#

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    Actually a very valid assumption by NYTs.....

    "Two people close to Mr. Trump said they expected [Trump and Putin] to bond over their disdain for 'fake news.'"
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/u...tw-share&_r=0#


    In general no authoritarian likes free press and free speech....

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    Fiona Hill is not "Kremlin Critic." She is the president's senior advisor on Russia. She must attend Putin mtg.
    http://thebea.st/2sHPk02?source=twitter&via=desktop#

    Watch to see if Trump allows her to be there...which BTW there should never be a discussion on...IF he allows her then one MIGHT have the view he is not connected to Russians....IF though she does not attend those meetings because Trump does not want her there as he did with the Russian FM meeting...THEN you have your evidence of Russian collusion.....

    The White House’s best-known Russia hawk is already in Germany, in advance of Donald Trump’s high-stakes meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and the G-20 summit. But whether Fiona Hill will be allowed in the room when the two presidents get together is still very much an open question.
    According to two White House aides, senior Trump administration officials have pressed for Hill—the National Security Council’s senior director for Europe and Russia and the author of critical psychological biography of Putin—to be in the room during the president’s highly anticipated meeting with Putin.
    If Hill is there, these officials believe, it will help the White House avoid the perception that the president is too eager to cozy up to the Kremlin. The hope is to avoid a repeat of Trump’s last meeting with top Russian officials, during which he disclosed classified intelligence to two of the country’s top diplomats—and was pictured by Russian state media looking particularly friendly with them.
    NOTE...SAD when an adult must be in the room with a US President these days...

    BTW...she is not considered to be a "Russian hawk".....
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    Interesting if actually true....so the core question....is the Trump WH really interested in defending US democracy built on the 1st Amendment...free speech and a free press????.....NOT really......

    Is then the Trump WH to be seen as a developing authoritarian regime ie "smiling fascism"????

    Maybe is the current answer....

    More evidence of a pattern of abuse of power linked to Trump loyalty demands. WH is eyeing a_merger_as leverage in its war on @CNN!
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    Why almost every state is partially or fully rebuffing Trump’s election commission
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d-commission/#

    45 states rejected giving Kris Kobach all of the voter data he asked for. Here are the facts
    https://www.thenation.com/article/th...firing-badly/#

    Actually interesting in that this is a main Trump info warfare statement.....he was "robbed of 6M" votes via illegal voting by immigrants who voted at least twice.

    Why is it that we see virtually no difference in Russian info warfare and Trump info warfare??

    BUT REMEMBER Trump still has not published that US cyber defense plan he promised within 90 days....but "so called voter fraud"...off and running with a full commission....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NOW this same Congressman is apologizing for his video efforts....SO what the heck was he thinking in attempting to tie the Holocaust under Nazi's to the Muslim immigrant issue???

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Forgot...he was just parroting Trump and the entire alt right ie white nationalist movement....which is very strong in LA BTW....

    SEEMS others fully understood what this LA Congressman fully meant with his video.....EVEN if he ignores it himself in his apology.....

    WHY does it take Europeans to educate US Congressmen.....in of all things history????


    HINT...look at what you the US are currently doing...sometimes looking at your reflection in a mirror is extremely helpful....

    This may not be Trump 's "fault", but Trump has created a climate ripe for such ethical & moral transgressions.
    http://tinyurl.com/yd95m7of

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    US President Donald Trump is to argue that the future of Western civilisation is at stake in a keynote speech in the Polish capital Warsaw.

    Holding up Poland as an example of a country ready to defend civilisation, he will warn against the threats of "terrorism and extremism".
    Poland's conservative government shares Mr Trump's hostile view of immigration and strong sense of sovereignty.
    Mr Trump is in Poland ahead of a G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.

    "Because as the Polish experience reminds us - the defence of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail," Mr Trump will say, according to excerpts released from the speech.


    "The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive."

    The "fundmental question" that Trump has yet to answer...in his drive to appease and accommodate Putin......"does he fully and completely understand the inherent Russian infowar and cyber war threat directed at and which still continues against the US"??

    THAT he Trump has yet to accept nor release his US cyber defense plan he promised within 90 days.....

    That is the "fundamental question"....AND Trump will continue to not answer that "question"....

    ACTIONS speak louder than words and right now Trump is all words.....in his response to the inherent Russian threat against the US which he must defend as part of his oath he must fulfil as President...
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    BUT WAIT...in this important Polish Us press conference Trump true to form does this.....

    Trump starts attacking NBC & CNN in news conference in Warsaw

    BUT NOTICE this.....

    US Pres Donald Trump says in press conference in Warsaw:
    "We are working with Poland against Russia's actions and destabilising behaviour"

    Trump says absolutely nothing about Russian behaviour in the US elections as a destabilising behaviour does he?????
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    AND Trump still does not really admit to the same conclusions as do 17 USG ICs...that Russia both hacked and meddled in the 2016 US elections...

    Before Putin talks, Trump plays down interference in U.S. election


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us..._medium=Social

    One day before his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that no one knows for sure whether Moscow intervened in the 2016 U.S. election but that he suspected Russian involvement.

    Speaking to reporters in Poland, Trump played down the assessment of his own intelligence agencies that Russia meddled in the election by hacking Democrats' emails and distributing online propaganda.

    “I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries, and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure,” Trump told a news conference
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    As I have posted here a number of times....Russian use of "money" as a soft power feature in their non linear war against the US and West in general is something that has picked up the pace since 2008 and continues until this very day.....

    Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe
    Russia-born dealmaker linked to Trump

    Sater was a Russian OC member in New York before going to work for Trump in the Soho Trump Tower....then shifted to working for the FBI as an informant during this period.

    https://www.ft.com/content/159eb2d8-...4-0ac7eb84e5f1


    Donald Trump faces renewed scrutiny of the riches that flowed into his real estate empire from the former Soviet Union after a fixer for a Kazakh family accused of pumping dirty money into US property agreed to assist an international investigation into his former business partners.Felix Sater, a Russian-born dealmaker with organised-crime connections who worked on property ventures including Trump Soho in Manhattan, has attracted attention in recent months as efforts continue to chart the links between the US president’s circle and moneymen from Russia and its neighbours.In October the Financial Times revealed Mr Sater had helped the family of Viktor Khrapunov, a former Kazakh minister now exiled in Switzerland, invest millions in US real estate through front companies. The Khrapunovs have spent heavily across the US, including, records indicate, buying apartments in Trump Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    I have been warned for being on a so called "soap box" and an entire series of tweets from proTrump alt right ie white nationalist tying into the Russian use of propaganda bot and trolls....especially around the CNN events have been removed as well as a posting on the anti Semitic ties to that CNN meme that the original poster had along with tens of anti Semitic postings...

    WHAT was removed was probably one of the best documented tie ins between proTrump alt right social media trolls and bots and Russian connections even into the French election and the hacking of Marcon....

    If one fully and completely understands that Russian non linear warfare uses both the right and ultra right and left and ultra left then the use of anti Semitic memes and postings is not unusual....it is actually common....for Russia propaganda and disinformation ie Soros....

    So then this is not unusual to see referring then to Trump.....

    Polish TV reported that Trump consulted far-right anti-semitic Polish-American historian to prepare Warsaw speech
    http://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/07/05...-right-links/#

    In my work world I am 300% use to having to fend off Russian hacking attacks and working with customers that are having to do the same..what I am not use to is an interesting form of censorship......

    REMEMBER right now US politics is in fact driving US FP and vice versa.....and that is not a soap box comment.....

    If any SWJ commenter does not agree then post and state why.....but surprisingly no comments are ever posted...even though the read numbers are high.....

    BLUF...am amazed that even SWJ accepts Russia meddling in all forms and in any media...

    To defeat Russian info warfare you must be able to fully dissect that and then actively push back....all the time not just some of the time...
    From the article....
    Trump is going to speak at a public rally near the 1944 Warsaw Uprising monument. Right-wing groups are organising buses to transport people from all over Poland in order to provide a big crowd for the event. Apparently it is the first US President in many years whose visit to Poland does not include a tribute to the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising memorial that is a short walking distance from the other monument at a time when antisemitism has been reportedly on the rise in both USA and Poland
    Chodakiewicz himself appeared in the report and commented on the speech’s contents. It has also been reported Chodakiewicz is to be a member of the presidential delegation flying to Warsaw.
    The report raised eyebrows because of Chodakiewicz’s long record of far right links. He is mostly known as a denier of Polish responsibility for acts of antisemitism, including the infamous Jedwabne pogrom of 1941.
    He has repeatedly claimed Jews themselves were chiefly responsible for the hostility of their Polish neighbours. Accusations of Jewish involvement with Communism have been present in many of Chodakiewicz’s writings.
    A frequent contributor to Polish right-wing media, he has recently referred to Bernie Sanders as “a Jewish bolshevik”.

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    Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....

    Investigators looking into possible Russia collusion with pro-Trump websites: report

    http://hill.cm/C3TRlG7

    Investigators are reportedly looking into whether there was coordination#between Russia and pro-Trump websites during the 2016 presidential election.
    The Guardian reported#investigators are trying to find out if#there was any coordination between Moscow#and pro-Trump or#far-right websites regarding the publication#of fake news.
    That includes stories targeting#2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
    A report last month said Brad Parscale, the#digital director of President Trump's 2016 campaign, was expected to be invited to speak with the House Intelligence Committee.
    Parscale oversaw online advertising and voter targeting for Trump's campaign.
    Reference Brad Parscale...have previously posted a number of comments referencing his digital activities......using big data from SCL and Cambridge Analytica....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    As I have posted here a number of times....Russian use of "money" as a soft power feature in their non linear war against the US and West in general is something that has picked up the pace since 2008 and continues until this very day.....

    Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe
    Russia-born dealmaker linked to Trump

    Sater was a Russian OC member in New York before going to work for Trump in the Soho Trump Tower....then shifted to working for the FBI as an informant during this period.

    https://www.ft.com/content/159eb2d8-...4-0ac7eb84e5f1
    Felix has decided his FBI pals can protect him from his ROC/FSB pals. That's one high-stakes wager right there.

    Sater has played a lot of different sides since 1998...Russian crime boss, FBI and CIA informant and it now seems FBI informant again....

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