The Russian economy (catch all)

[AmericanPride]

American Pride, wellcome to SWJ Exclusive Club of KGB mouthpieces. I'll send you cookies, on occasion

I like shortbread cookies. Or... do cookies choose me?

Georgia is not the Ukraine and Russia knows that---why ----to cross over would provoke far more serious sanctions on their gas industry.

Then why in other posts do you hype a threat of imminent Russian invasion?

By the way AP did you notice that absolutely no ongoing negotiations on any topic has gone anywhere? Wonder why?

Not in public, at least. At some point, Washington and Moscow (and the EU) will sort out the details at the negotiating table. It's not a matter of "if" but of "when" and under what conditions. I'm not against the U.S. increasing it's leverage prior to negotiations through diplomatic and economic maneuvering - that's par for the course. Anyway, the long view is a political settlement. There will not be a perpetual conflict in Ukraine (or with Russia).

Look up 'Antonio Negri' and see where he is coming from.

Negri's work is fundamentally a critique of neoliberal capitalism - I'm not a neo-liberal myself - but his ideology departs from a nationally-centered position. Frankly - my concern is chiefly with American interests; not with Ukrainian, or Russian, or South African. Internationalism is a strategy not an end-state.

[OUTLAW 09]

I like shortbread cookies. Or... do cookies choose me?



Then why in other posts do you hype a threat of imminent Russian invasion?



Not in public, at least. At some point, Washington and Moscow (and the EU) will sort out the details at the negotiating table. It's not a matter of "if" but of "when" and under what conditions. I'm not against the U.S. increasing it's leverage prior to negotiations through diplomatic and economic maneuvering - that's par for the course. Anyway, the long view is a political settlement. There will not be a perpetual conflict in Ukraine (or with Russia).



Negri's work is fundamentally a critique of neoliberal capitalism - I'm not a neo-liberal myself - but his ideology departs from a nationally-centered position. Frankly - my concern is chiefly with American interests; not with Ukrainian, or Russian, or South African. Internationalism is a strategy not an end-state.

AP---I hype it because in fact and most of the time you seem to not read---Russian GRU/FSB/SF and two Airborne BNs have in fact crossed over in the night of 16 to 17 July so it is not a question of when or how---it is a question on just how many are already across.

So based on your holding onto the mistaken belief that negotiations will occur---do you mind telling us when because from where I sit yes they will occur- but maybe in 1-3 years and yes the Ukraine internal fighting will continue even if Russia does not formally cross as that is the way of proxy wars but since you never fought in one then that must explain your avid holding onto negotiations as the answer.

[AmericanPride]

where I sit yes they will occur- but maybe in 1-3 years and yes the Ukraine internal fighting will continue even if Russia does not formally cross as that is the way of proxy wars but since you never fought in one then that must explain your avid holding onto negotiations as the answer.

In my best Outlaw impression:

"Look! You agree! You said negotiations will occur! Thank you for agreeing with the obvious. My work here is done."

[OUTLAW 09]

In my best Outlaw impression:

"Look! You agree! You said negotiations will occur! Thank you for agreeing with the obvious. My work here is done."

Great finally AP seems to be getting the concept--even based on your statements that negotiations are the only way forward---would appreciate just what you assume there will be negotiations over? What Yalta, the beaches of the Crimea or those world famous Crimea vineyards or those new casino's Putin wants built.

The last time I checked they are still negotiating on the border to NK are they not, let's see they are still negotiating in Baghdad, still negotiating with Iran, still negotiating on Syria, on issues in Lebanon, between the Israeli's and the Palestinians and the list goes on and on. The last time I checked even the negotiations over the South Sudan what were a raving success?

Oh then let's check the negotiations with Russia over the Georgian and Moldavian separatists? Wow we seem to have a great track record with successes with Russia when we see them negotiating-right AP?- -even the INF they signed has been violated or the current Ukrainian Memorandum they actually did sign and what followed it to the letter---right AP?

Can you tell us here at SWJ just where negotiations finally settled a major world crisis?

Again directed question to you----just what is to be negotiated over the Ukraine?---what Russia is to be allowed to be a member of the Ukrainian parliament or maybe Ukrainians will get what free visa visitation rights in the summer to visit Crimea beaches? Or maybe we can negotiate over the shipment of Crimea Sekt to the US or maybe we can negotiate to allow KBR to built a new bridge from Russia to the Crimea.

The concept of negotiations are something that seems to be at least since 2001 failures or can you see a better track record?

Again AP where have they succeeded?

[AmericanPride]

Negri is a marxist... period.

He is a Marxist. And Marxism is fundamentally a critique of capitalism. I thought his work Empire with Michael Hardt was superficial and rather strained so I haven't bothered reading their subsequent works. I'm neither Marxist or neo-liberal in outlook so I understand your confusion.

But I am surprised that with your utter hate of anything left of D.F. Malan.

[davidbfpo]

Three threads are closed to enable people to cool down and to enable a review. This one thread. I will endeavour to open the thread tomorrow.