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Old 03-16-2017   #221
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Package found at German finance ministry contained explosives: police
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Bomb was in fact a package type bomb sent from Greece by a radical left wing anarchist group....

Last year a similar package bomb was sent to Merkel's officer also from Greece......also from a radical Greek left wing terror group... and disarmed as well...

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Old 03-18-2017   #222
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Germans who believe US is a trustworthy ally

November, 2016: 59%
February, 2017: 22%

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This is the sort of conspiracy theories being batted around by the ultra right blog sites....this story is actually a "fake news article".....

There is an interesting concept behind this article...namely the pushing of the idea of bilateral agreements with individual countries...as a way to force those countries to cave to Trump.....

Secondly...Breitbart.com is trying to smear Merkel with the lie of "fake news" which actually this article is a perfect example of....

Merkel Floats Fake News at Trump Presser: TTIP Deal is ‘Bilateral’
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...ake-news-trump...
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In the first joint press conference between U.S. President Donald Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the German leader claimed that a trade deal between the U.S. and the EU would be like a trade deal between two countries.
Trade#was the topic of much of the press conference between the two leaders as President Trump#has made the subject one of the pillars of his administration. During the press questions, a reporter from German paper#Die Welt#asked Ms Merkel if she thought that a trade agreement between the EU and the U.S. would be multilateral or bilateral.
Merkel said and agreement like the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) would be bilateral, indicating that she viewed the European Union as its own country, rather than a federation of countries.
“I believe that the president has clearly set out his philosophy as to what trade agreements have to bring about for the American side as well. I personally don’t think that Germany needs to negotiate and not the European Union.
“We’ve devolved our competences#to the European Union, so the European Union, or rather the commission, negotiates on behalf of the member states,” Merkel said outlining that it is the unelected commission of the EU, whose role it is to be at the table for trade deals.
“So that’s not going to prevent us from concluding agreements and indeed this would then qualify as a bilateral agreement between the EU and the United States if we had it,” she added.
“The question is will it benefit both countries or not?” she said.
President Trump has made it clear that he supports bilateral trade deals over multilateral deals that can often involve a dozen or more countries with different values and different economic interests.
One of the president’s first acts after assuming office was to scrap TTIP which, unlike Merkel, he did not believe was bilateral.
The view of Angela Merkel, that of pro-globalisation and of a centralised European Union, is being heavily challenged by countries like Hungary who wish to see reform in the union and more emphasis on the individual countries, than the central EU bureaucracy.
In April France will start the process of electing a new president and anti-mass migration candidate Marine Le Pen has already hit out at Merkel’s philosophy saying that she, like Trump, wants to put her country first and end the experiment of centralised supranational organisations like the EU. #A win for Le Pen would likely strike a huge blow for Merkel and her philosophy
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HERE is the separate elements of "this fake news article".....

1. TTIP would have allowed the US to trade with the entire EU and the associated EU trade areas THUS opening THUS a marketplace of 500M consumers....WITHOUT a single tariff system....
2. TTP would have allowed the US to trade with 12 Asian countries with a total of HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS without a single tariff
3. TTP would have kept the Chinese out of this trading zone...
4. No single EU member can negotiate a bilateral trade deal...the EU Commission negotiates for all 28 members as a single voice THUS the author fails to understand that in fact such a trade deal is signed by the EU Commission and then ratified by each nation state member.
THUS there is a single name on the deal as well as the US THUS the word bilateral truly fits...
5. While the author quoted Hungary NOTICE Hungary does not do extra deal trades and accepts all EU negotiated trade deals...

So while Trump supports bilateral trade as this author claims....Trump lost trade markets of over 1.8B consumers that US workers could have sold products to.....WITH NO TARIFFS on Us products AND FULL US financial services being allowed into 1.8B consumers....
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Worrying when US administration blocks a G20 free trade statement. Where is it heading? EU needs to stand up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin....5cf6c61c7aa0#

This is the signal that will show EU that Trump/Bannon and Narravo are intent in damaging both NATO and EU.....

It is now Trump vs the world...and I am afraid US workers will in fact lose....
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Trump is off and running on another conspiracy myth again....the so called "Germany owes vast sums of money to NATO and US".....

FOR what exactly...the NATO 2% rule means 2% of GDP is to be invested into military defense.....

Trump is heading into a new set of Bannon/Narravo/Miller driven conspiracy theories....

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Despite what you have heard from the FAKE NEWS, I had a GREAT meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Nevertheless, Germany owes.....

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...vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!
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Sorry, Mr. President, that’s not how NATO works. The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending NATO.

This is not a financial transaction, where NATO countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.

All NATO countries, including Germany, have committed to spend 2% of GDP on defense by 2024. So far 5 of 28 NATO countries do.

Those who currently don’t spend 2% of their GDP on defense are now increasing their defense budgets. That’s a good thing.

But no funds will be paid to the US. They are meant to increase NATO’s overall defense capabilities, given the growing Russian threat.

Europe must spend more on defense, but not as favor (or payment) to the US. But because their security requires it due to Russian threat.

US does provide large military commitment to NATO. But this is not a favor to Europe. It is vital for our own security.

A strong, united NATO, in which all contribute their fair share to defense, will secure that peace for all Alliance members.

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The only time in the history of NATO that Article 5 was triggered to protect a member nation....

Was 9/11 and all 27 NATOs joined Article 5 to defined the US....
YET Trump claims he will not trigger Article 5 until all repay the US.....
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Trump's press conference and his actions towards Merkel did not win him a single new friend in Europe outside of the standard far right nationalist populist party leaders...

The Atlantic article from yesterday sums it up .....

Donald and Angela's Awkward Adventure
During a press conference with the German chancellor, President Trump lied about his claims of wiretapping, berated a reporter, and poked at American allies.

David A. Graham Mar 17, 2017 Global

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Early Friday afternoon, President Trump and German Chancellor Merkel held one of the more awkward photo ops in recent memory. Merkel sat, looking like she was trying hard to appear casual. Trump barely bothered, grimacing tightly. When photographers asked for a handshake, Merkel asked Trump if they should shake hands. He either did not hear or pretended not to.
As it turns out, this was only a warm-up for the dual press conference the two leaders held later Friday afternoon, during which Merkel stood beside Trump as he ridiculed a German reporter, lied about his statements on his baseless conspiracy theory that President Obama surveilled him, and refused to back down on claims that have set off a diplomatic incident with the United Kingdom.
The fact that it might be a tense conversation was clear from the two leaders’ opening statements. Trump, during his, once again complained about the cost of NATO. “I reiterated to Chancellor Merkel my strong support for NATO as well as the need for our NATO allies to pay their fair share for the cost defense,” he said. “Many nations owe vast sums of money from past years and it is very unfair to the United States. These nations must pay what they owe.”
As for Merkel, she used her own statement to issue a veiled scolding for Trump, who previously said she was “ruining” Germany with a “catastrophic mistake” of an open-door refugee policy. “I've always said it's much, much better to talk to one another and not about one another, and I think our conversation proved this,” Merkel said.
Perhaps that is so, but there was little talking to each other during the press conference; instead, Trump shot from the hip and Merkel sought to either smooth things over or stay out of the way. It wasn’t an easy task.
Trump got several questions about his continued, inexplicable insistence that President Obama surveilled him prior to the election. He ignored the first, which came from a German reporter, but answered it the second time, when a second German reporter asked if it had been a mistake for Sean Spicer to read a story in the White House briefing room on Thursday that accused the British intelligence agency GCHQ of helping to surveil Trump.
The president started off with an uncomfortable deadpan remark—joke?—about the 2013 revelation that Merkel had been the subject of NSA wiretaps.
“As far as wiretapping I guess by this past administration, at least we have something in common perhaps,” Trump said, to somewhat incredulous laughter in the room.
“And just to finish your question, we said nothing,” Trump continued. “All we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television. I didn't make an opinion on it. That was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on Fox. And so you shouldn't be talking to me, you should be talking to Fox.”
Trump’s claim of having tendered no opinion was a lie. In a series of March 4 tweets lodging the allegation, and he most certainly did “make an opinion,” calling it “McCarthyism” and “Nixon/Watergate” and calling Obama a “Bad (or sick) guy!” And in pinning the story on Andrew Napolitano, a onetime New Jersey judge who is a Fox legal analyst, Trump implied that it didn’t matter whether he gave a platform to baseless accusations, much less endorsed them, because he hadn’t originated them. The buck doesn’t stop in Trump’s Oval Office.
The problems with this approach became clear with Britain’s fury about the GCHQ accusation. After complaints from U.K. officials, the White House issued a statement saying, “Ambassador Kim Darroch and Sir Mark Lyall expressed their concerns to Sean Spicer and [National Security Adviser H.R.] McMaster. Mr. Spicer and General McMaster explained that Mr. Spicer was simply pointing to public reports, not endorsing any specific story.”
If that explanation was intended to soothe tensions with America’s closest ally, Trump did all he could to throw things back into chaos during the press conference, managing to poke sore spots for both Britain and Germany at the same time.
Trump also berated a German reporter who asked Merkel about Trump’s “isolationism” and then asked the president why he was “scared of adversity in the news.”
“Nice friendly reporter,” he said sarcastically. “I am a trader, I am a fair trader, a trader that wants to see good for everybody worldwide, but I'm not an isolationist by any stretch of the imagination, so I don't know what newspaper you're reading, so I guess that would be another example of fake news.”
If the goal of the press conference was to present some sort of unified face on trade, however, that didn’t happen. Merkel offered a platitudinous plea for a “win-win” solution, but Trump was more interested in grievance and competition. “I would say that the negotiators for Germany have done a far better job than the United States but hopefully we can even it out,” he said.
American reporters were more interested in finding out about the state of the Republican Party’s attempt to repeal Obamacare. Trump has put his weight behind the bill and met with members of the conservative Republican Study Committee to try to make the case for the bill. The bill looks tenuous at best, beset by criticism from moderate and conservative Republicans alike, but Trump promised a happy ending.
“In the end we’re going to have a great health-care plan,” Trump said, but he didn’t say how, preferring to dwell on the existing law. “Obamacare will fail. It will fold. it will close up very, very soon if something isn't done. I've often said politically the best thing I can do is absolutely nothing. Wait one year and then even the Democrats will say, ‘Please, please, you gotta help us.’”
But Trump offered no indications on what changes were going to be made to the bill to bring more votes into the fold.
During the press conference, the American journalist Mark Halperin asked Merkel a question about whether she thought Trump’s “different style” than past president was good for the world. The chancellor gamely tried to answer.
“For Germany I can say, well people are different, people have different abilities, different traits of character, have different origins, have found their way into politics along different pathways,” she said through a translator. “Which, well, that is diversity, which is good! Sometimes it’s difficult to find compromises, but that’s what we’ve been elected for.”
The fact that Merkel had to work hard to say something diplomatic in response to such a softball question said a great deal about the press conference. But give the chancellor credit for effort—Trump didn’t even bother to try diplomacy.
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Old 03-18-2017   #228
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Angela Merkel has a PhD in quantum physics.

Donald Trump misspelled "tap."

Not exactly a meeting of the minds.

Further proof that Trump in fact does not get on well with strong women and especially say a Merkel who had been in politics for years.....

So #Trump definitely heard #Merkel asking for a handshake. Why be so pathologically rude in front of cameras?
pic.twitter.com/2LIJ2skjSA
This one single action on the part of Trump has virtually sealed his image in Germany where over 87% view Trump as a serious danger to Germany....
The second Trump WH misstep with Merkel was having her seated next to Trump's own daughter...there is a media photo now floating in German online media depicting the Merkel look towards the daughter....

That moment when you realize your high level Washington trade discussions are actually an infomercial for a new broach & pendant set.
Mutti wears her well-known "you're so stupid that I'm embarrassed for you" face.


BTW...Mutti in German is an endearment form for mother..regardless of political party most German's highly respect Merkel...

In some aspects you must now ask yourself did in fact the Trump WH want this meeting to fail?

Many in Germany are saying ...yes...as it was clearly apparent to many that Trump does not like Germany nor the EU and NATO.....
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EU chief Juncker warns against EU-US trade war: Bild am Sonntag
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The polling numbers that were reported German Die Welt in Feb. Russia's trustworthiness was at 21% compared to US 22%.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...-die-USA.html#
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"One individual case after another
A very usual week in Merkel's Germany"

German right-wing #AfD aims for #Russian minority voters.
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Hmm...so the closed notes version is that Yemen has always been a royal goatf*ck...

What happens when Arabs living in poverty and chaos are unwanted by their more prosperous and secure co-ethnics? Oh wait...

Maybe Merkel can stretch her arms even wider?
Bashing of Merkel will not get one far....yes a hassle for Germany but all those refugees created a grand total of 23,000 paying jobs and the economy is booming without effecting it at all...what many commenters actually miss....and all those overfilled relocation centers IE gyms..will be emptied by May....AND all refugees will have been biometrically registered as well.....

Of the thousands of refugee status requests that were in backlog..only 43,000 remain not decided and those will be finished by JUN...so all in all....over 1M registered..fed..clothed and a large number of children in kindergartens and schools and tens of language classes later...a majority of Germans do not give a single thought...

AND what is interesting is the secular impact of those refugees especially coming from Syria and Iraq on the more conservative Turkish population...

Side note....far more "tips" about radicalize individuals" are now coming in from those "refugees" than ever before....as they fully understand the "threat" far better than most.

BTW...an interesting security development that even the US does not have....

There has been massive development on AI driven speech recognition software as part of internet and comms legal monitoring that now allows a person to simply read a set number of paragraphs in their native language and the AI software can identify down to the tribe and location where the individual is from allowing for a better identification of those arriving without passports and or IDs....

Will at some point be marketed/sold to the US.

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Politician from Germany's far-right AfD party wants to ban new book by @MelAmann. Could also just burn it.
https://kress.de/news/detail/beitrag...in-amann.html#
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MIT hands BND a list of Gulenists in Germany with surveillance data. Berlin is furious, start investigating MIT
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/e...iert-1.3438995

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BUT THEN......

German court convicts Pakistani for espionage for IRGC/QF, specifically pre-attack terror targeting intelligence

Moderator Adds:http://bigstory.ap.org/article/291f2...ny-spying-iran

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Sad...really sad.....says exactly what the national security FP of the Trump WH is....nothing really....

German officials concluded Ivanka, who wasn't supposed to be there, was the most prepared Trump at Merkel meeting

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/2...-of-the-free-w...


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When Donald Trump met Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany earlier this month, he put on one of his most truculent and ignorant performances. He wanted money — piles of it — for Germany’s defense, raged about the financial killing China was making from last year’s Paris climate accord and kept “frequently and brutally changing the subject when not interested, which was the case with the European Union.”
This was the summation provided to me by a senior European diplomat briefed on the meeting. Trump’s preparedness was roughly that of a fourth grader. He began the conversation by telling Merkel that Germany owes the United States hundreds of billions of dollars for defending it through NATO, and concluded by saying, “You are terrific” but still owe all that dough. Little else concerned him.
Trump knew nothing of the proposed European-American deal known as the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, little about Russian aggression in Ukraine or the Minsk agreements, and was so scatterbrained that German officials concluded that the president’s daughter Ivanka, who had no formal reason to be there, was the more prepared and helpful. (Invited by Merkel, Ivanka will attend a summit on women’s empowerment in Berlin next month.)
Merkel is not one to fuss. But Trump’s behavior appalled her entourage and reinforced a conclusion already reached about this presidency in several European capitals: It is possible to do business with Trump’s national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, with Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, and with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, but these officials are flying blind because above them at the White House rages a whirlwind of incompetence and ignorance.
Trump’s United States of America has become an unserious country, the offender of the free world.
The German debt to the United States is vast since the federal republic was crafted from ruin through enlightened American postwar involvement. Germans never forget this. But that debt is not material, something Trump’s lazy, a historic little mind cannot grasp. Germany owes the United States no NATO debt. America is not Europe’s defense contractor, paid to deliver services like, say, the caterers at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.
This is not rocket science. As Adam Schiff, a Democratic representative, tweeted about NATO: “Unlike health care, it’s not that complicated.”
NATO is a successful organization dedicated to the collective security of its 28 members, which have pledged to defend each other if attacked and maintain defense budgets to that end. By bringing stability it has contributed enormously to American prosperity. Trump did not discover, as he boasts, that Europeans have been underspending on defense. That has long been an American concern. Germany increased its military spending by 8 percent last year but has not reached the target, set by NATO in 2014, of spending 2 percent of gross domestic product on defense. These are pretty elementary facts.
Yet Trump tweeted: “Despite what you have heard from the FAKE NEWS, I had a GREAT meeting with Angela Merkel. Nevertheless Germany owes vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!” And later, in an interview with Time magazine’s Michael Scherer: “What I said about NATO was true, people aren’t paying their bills. And everyone said it was a horrible thing to say. And then they found out.” Trump added, “I got attacked on NATO and now they are all saying I was right.”
Yes, Mr. President, everyone is saying you are right! And they’re saying, wow, you made a BIG discovery about NATO spending! They are also saying there’s an unidentified lying object in the White House.
Trump, as noted above, showed no interest with Merkel in the European Union. The E.U. just marked its 60th anniversary in Rome with vows of indivisible union and renewal. It did so as Theresa May, the British prime minister, prepares to submit Britain’s formal exit demand this week, and just after the French rightist Marine Le Pen, who may soon lead France, met with Vladimir Putin in the Kremlin. Putin is deploying money and propaganda to back Le Pen and fast-forward E.U. unraveling. Trump, as allergic to multilateralism as he is susceptible to autocracy, has welcomed the unstitching of Europe.
It is the hour to stand up for the European Union. Its democratic shortfall, weak external borders and shared currency mistakes have contributed to a political backlash. Less appreciated are the peace and stability it has provided to hundreds of millions of people over generations and the myriad ways — from disappearing cellphone roaming charges to cheap borderless travel — it has improved life for Europeans whose forebears lived in a charnel house. No miracle ever marketed itself so miserably.
Merkel is the personification of the Union’s values; she was just bolstered by a local election victory. Russians have taken to the streets to protest against Putin’s corrupt regime and been brutalized. This is not over. Truculent Trump has abdicated responsibility. Europe must step into the void.
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Sad...really sad.....says exactly what the national security FP of the Trump WH is....nothing really....

German officials concluded Ivanka, who wasn't supposed to be there, was the most prepared Trump at Merkel meeting

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/2...-of-the-free-w...
WHEN someone says we have now a President that is about as prepared for National Security and FP as a "fourth grader"..it is time to move out of the States....

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POLITICO Europe

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Russia is “actively involved” in the upcoming French and German elections, according to the US
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Germany ForMin @sigmargabriel: "our defense spending should not be driven by quantitative targets only"
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/nn_72...ml?nnm=729004#

Germany to #Trump: #NATO agreement on 2% "was formulated in Wales as a guideline & not as a goalpost"
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/nn_72...ml?nnm=729004#
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Germany ForMin @sigmargabriel: "our defense spending should not be driven by quantitative targets only"
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/nn_72...ml?nnm=729004#

Germany to #Trump: #NATO agreement on 2% "was formulated in Wales as a guideline & not as a goalpost"
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/nn_72...ml?nnm=729004#
Germany rejects US pressure for #Nato spending rise
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39460685#
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