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    Quote Originally Posted by Rank amateur View Post
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    I've been thinking about this for a while. The time to worry about things like ethnic cleansing and increased Iranian influence is before you start the war. You can't put the genie back in the bottle.
    I like Ike. We even use the same hair stylist.

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    I thought you were making reference to the campaign button, " I Like Ike".

    You state in your essay, "The astute strategist senses such obsolescence before it is proven, and uses a burst of creativity to establish new patterns..."

    This seems to characterize the friction between the COIN advocates and traditionalists of today's Military

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    Quote Originally Posted by goesh View Post
    I thought you were making reference to the campaign button, " I Like Ike".
    I was. (this is gibberish because I was told my message was too short)

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    Ike: the wrong man for the Long War?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkAqtILdYaI

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    Well, I always like the way Ike handled all the displaced persons and their thuggery after the firing had ceased - a whiff of grapeshot can still go a long ways sometimes

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    Eisenhower is also the man who brought us the idea of massive retaliation and got us started in Southeast Asia (Laos). I'm not a big fan....
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
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    Quote Originally Posted by goesh View Post
    Well, I always like the way Ike handled all the displaced persons and their thuggery after the firing had ceased - a whiff of grapeshot can still go a long ways sometimes
    Could you be more specific? I'd like to know more about this.

    Steve - You could also mention Operation Ajax in Iran that brought us so many benefits. Also American empowerment of Joseph Mobutu, but who cares about Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tequila
    ....You could also mention Operation Ajax in Iran that brought us so many benefits. Also American empowerment of Joseph Mobutu, but who cares about Africa.
    Ike's Spies: Eisenhower and the Espionage Establishment, by Stephen Ambrose, is a good read along those lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tequila View Post
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    ... You could also mention Operation Ajax in Iran that brought us so many benefits. Also American empowerment of Joseph Mobutu, but who cares about Africa.
    ire in the Iraniha. There were a few who were torqued by it but the vast majority were not nearly as concerned as many here in the US seem to wish to believe...

    There are a bunch more you could cite aside from Mobutu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveMetz View Post
    I like Ike. We even use the same hair stylist.
    I'm a big fan too Steve. In fact, I've got your monograph on my bookshelf. My nine year old boy insisted that we celebrate GEN Eisenhower's 117th birthday today, so my wife baked some cupcakes and we sang "Happy Birthday Ike" after dinner this evening.
    "Law cannot limit what physics makes possible." Humanitarian Apsects of Airpower (papers of Frederick L. Anderson, Hoover Institution, Stanford University)

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