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    Some U.S. commanders removed the Bradley from the first line (2003) and let them move behind the MBTs because the threat of 60's RPGs became too intense.

    HAPC + cheap APCs is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Some U.S. commanders removed the Bradley from the first line (2003) and let them move behind the MBTs because the threat of 60's RPGs became too intense.
    Got a reference for this? First I've heard of it. My friends that took Bradley's on the Thunder Runs, and multiple rotations since all talk about how survivable they are.

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    The most recent source I recall was a monograph on armoured recce (or cavalry). Maybe I'll find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82redleg View Post
    Got a reference for this? First I've heard of it. My friends that took Bradley's on the Thunder Runs, and multiple rotations since all talk about how survivable they are.
    the various mods make a difference? IIRC, the base and A1 mods differed only in missile fit but the A2, A2(ODS) and A3 were all successive upgrades with increased survivability as a goal??? Dunno...

    I do know that many guys from both the 2d and 11th ACRs at the time the Wall came down were not Bradley fans...

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    I've read of 2ACR in 1991 leading with M1s vs M3s (IIRC, at 73 Easting).

    Never seen anything about it in 2003. By then, most or all should have been at least M2A2, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82redleg View Post
    By then, most or all should have been at least M2A2, right?
    I was at Knox when that deal was made and was never a Bradley fan so I'm not sure who had what variant. I think 3 ID should've had A2 if not A2(ODS). Someone here will know -- Mike Few will for sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82redleg View Post
    I've read of 2ACR in 1991 leading with M1s vs M3s (IIRC, at 73 Easting).

    Never seen anything about it in 2003. By then, most or all should have been at least M2A2, right?
    All active units had M2A2's (ODS) by 2001. I know b/c I was in the last priority "legacy/AOE" division and we even had them then. 4ID/1 CAV had the A3 version by the late 90's,IIRC. They also had the M1A2's.
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