Quote Originally Posted by Bob's World View Post
Madison was the driving force in ensuring that the US framework was designed to promote Good Governance perceptions. THAT is great COIN.
Am I missing something, or didn't you folks subsequently have a horribly bloody civil war over governance issues? And wasn't Madison--at least until after the War of 1812--a proponent of states' rights and a weak central government?

We, on the other hand, managed to avoid having a civil war, and yet didn't have a constitutionally-entrenched Charter of Rights until 1982.