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    I was trying to figure out what this is about, so I browsed the comments at the link. I'm now dumber for doing so.

    Any idea what this is about?

    Just the BC and CSM relieved? No CO or 1SG? Odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmedlap View Post

    Any idea what this is about?
    Just going by the article, it's about "values." It would logically imply that the values of the former CO and CSM were not compatible with those of thier COC or those of the Unit.

    I have a nastly feeling you may see this one pick up speed the further it rolls down hill....
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    For the non-military members, without reading the press report, this quote gives some context from a different unit, with my emphasis:
    Yesterday, we had about a third of the battalion return home on two different flights. Seeing four people on those two flights really impacted me. First, our Battalion's Command Sergeant Major returned. He and I had a great working relationship, and probably more important, we are friends. Many folks talk about how lonely command is for senior officers and Non-Commissioned Officers, but (at least from my perspective) I always had a friend that I could talk to about anything, share anything with, and ask for advice from. Working with our Command Sergeant Major has been the highlight of my professional career. He is a great man, a selfless and caring leader, and a great friend.
    From:http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/timkarcher (Col. Tim Karcher's latest post injury letter).

    Hope that helps.
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    I seriously doubt it's anything tactical...that would be the last thing the CoC command would care about.

    My guess: Drinking.
    Sir, what the hell are we doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkm_101_fso View Post
    I seriously doubt it's anything tactical...that would be the last thing the CoC command would care about.
    Tragic and true. How can we fix the CoC's disconnect with what matters?

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    Rumors on another board that I frequent point to sexist and racist material popping up on briefing slides. No idea about the validity of that, but the overall tone seemed to be that command climate had become an issue.

    Many were quick to decry the toxic EO environment that has cropped up in the Army, but standards are standards. Follow them or spin the wheel I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmedlap View Post
    I was trying to figure out what this is about, so I browsed the comments at the link. I'm now dumber for doing so.
    Isn't that the truth? Another 3 minutes of my life I can't have back....

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