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    Donald J. Trump‏
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    North Korea has shown great disrespect for their neighbor, China, by shooting off yet another ballistic missile...but China is trying hard!
    REMEMBER this is the same President that sent the "lost carrier strike force to Korea"...and threatened and threatened and now it is up to the Chinese?????

    WHEN everyone knows that NK is largely supported now by Russia.....

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    Took long enought.......
    Trump condemns Oregon knife attacks, says ‘victims were standing up to hate and intolerance’
    http://read.bi/2r4cZpk

    NOTICE he says nothig about this killing machine called a white supremacist.....

    White nationalists and or white supremacists have killed three Americans in the last two weeks..and not a single Muslim from the Trump banned Mulsin immigration list has killed a single American in 40 years.....
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    OTD.....Reference VN Vets and their families....on this Memorial Day.......

    Those of us that served in VN and lost friends there...LET us not forget the current President dodged the VN draft FOUR times and he in an campaign interview stated the reason was for a "foot bone spur"......and when the Reporter asked which foot he could not remember....

    Most of us can remember each day of VN and he cannot remember what foot?????

    We had in Basic Training Ft. Polk a lumberjax from AL who had an axe accident and it had hit his right foot leaving a deep scar and injury that bled badly everytime he did road marches but he always completed them limping all the way and not complaining ...we though he would be eventually medically discharged for an injury eveyone saw he had..BUT no he was then sent to advanced Infantry Training and then on to VN where he was killed four months later...leaving a wife and small daughter .......

    BUT WAIT ...when I was slugging it out with the NVA 9th Division in the Fish Hook 111 Corp on the Cambodian border with a Cambodian recon company....this was what Trump was doing with his VN war deferrment....

    We fought for the Country, our own honor, and to survive yet Trump cannot seem to remember if he has Russian connections????

    AND he cannot stop singing and moving during the National Anthem at the Tomb of the Unknown which contains the remains of an Unknown VN vet...he is not at a proTrump rally....

    SAD............
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    Trump took another family's coat of arms as his own without permission—& changed “Integritas” (integrity) to “Trump”
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    AND from the proTrump ultra right ........


    Ann Coulter‏
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    We should form a military alliance with Russia to protect it from Western Europe.

    Steve Sailer‏
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    Problem with European unification today is that Euro elites see it a desirable not for Europeans but for non-European migrants.
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    From 2015.........


    Donald J. Trump‏
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    I would like to wish everyone, including all haters and losers (of which, sadly, there are many) a truly happy and enjoyable Memorial Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The problem with the article is that when the Russian military is compared to the Europeans and or US "the bang for a buck" gets way to much credit...

    The current Russian military is a mixture of draftees still the way larger number and a core of contract time military members and the wages of both cannot be compared to say a Germany, a US or even a Spain.....

    Secondly, weapon design and purchases are still being done via a State demanded and supported set price...unheard of in the West....as the sole customer of these defense industries is still the Russian state supported by defense exports which the State uses as an piece of their FP strategies...which the West also does but still there is a profit margin there that does not exist in Russian industrial business deals...

    What is interesting is that both the CDU and the SPD will not increase the German military budget beyond what they economically feel the correct level is as they must then sell it to the general public....

    Interesting as well is the concept of three new divisions each having 8 Bdes...an unusual configuration as the US runs a different model making these divisions "heavy divisions".....
    On the contrary, the article does address "bang for the buck". The German general public remain mostly opposed to using military force to protect NATO allies, so perhaps Germany should reconsider its membership in NATO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    On the contrary, the article does address "bang for the buck". The German general public remain mostly opposed to using military force to protect NATO allies, so perhaps Germany should reconsider its membership in NATO...
    What you and a lot of Americans tend to forget is the following.....

    We the US are responsible for this exact problem....we drove into the heart of Germans after the war that it was their actions that resulted in Hitler and WW2 and we changed the political and educational system to reflect that idea...of no more war...at any cost.....

    We drove into Germans a form of democratic views that now are being aimed back at the US and stated "you have sold out your own democratic values"....

    You failed to catch Merkel's comment on "shared values"...

    It has been that US drive to eliminate anything from looking like ""German miitiarism" that now inhibits Germans as a whole to engage into anything that looks and smells "like war or conflict"....

    Secondly, the US drive to re-educate Germans and the forcing of them to accept the results of WW2 as their responsibility has led up to even today a distinct non desire to not look like they are leading Europe out of "fear the Germans are coming again".....which after Merkels beer tent comments did come up in some European MSM.....

    They have been content to lead from behind and pay for that leading from behind....

    Merkel's speech was actually two fold....1) a warning to Trump and US elites in DC and 2) prepping the German public at large that they will have to start stepping up and accepting that German must lead.....if they value Europe and a majority in fact do value Europe...

    CHECK the polling......Germans while not cheering for Article 5 do in high polling numbers thoroughly accept Russian as an existential threat to both Germany and Europe...and are willing to defend both from Russian attack.

    German culture is interesting if you confront it..then their back stiffens up and they can get aggressive and defensive...all the while remaining outwardly calm and good mannered......but they will not engage with you....and it has a quiet determination if things gets bad that many had not previously seen until the truck attack in Berlin that allowed the society as a whole to both quietly grieve and get on with every day life....

    They inherently know they must now step forward and lead....and you must as a politician gently nudge and gently convince with good arguments and then suddenly they will support it..."as it was their idea"...BUT at the same time they do not like being the "bank" for the EU.

    Right now Germans who save and they save a lot... have lost over 38B Euros on their savings and retirement plans in order for the ECB to keep the interest rate at ZERO in order to bail out Italy, Spain, Greece and others who truly overspend with their "EU credit card" and they are growing tired of it....thus they must be nudged and that was what Merkel has started to do....

    So when discussing Germany fully understand it and the current German culture.....

    Also remember that everything that has proven to have not worked in the US gets imported into Germany with a 10 year time lag and Germany is now coming out of that "US excess of failures" and are now moving again on their own agenda....

    So when people critique Germany you are indirectly critiquing the US....
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    NYT: Investigators are now examining Jared Kushner's motives in meeting with that Russian banker tied to Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    What you and a lot of Americans tend to forget is the following.....

    We the US are responsible for this exact problem....we drove into the heart of Germans after the war that it was their actions that resulted in Hitler and WW2 and we changed the political and educational system to reflect that idea...of no more war...at any cost.....

    We drove into Germans a form of democratic views that now are being aimed back at the US and stated "you have sold out your own democratic values"....

    You failed to catch Merkel's comment on "shared values"...

    It has been that US drive to eliminate anything from looking like ""German miitiarism" that now inhibits Germans as a whole to engage into anything that looks and smells "like war or conflict"....

    Secondly, the US drive to re-educate Germans and the forcing of them to accept the results of WW2 as their responsibility has led up to even today a distinct non desire to not look like they are leading Europe out of "fear the Germans are coming again".....which after Merkels beer tent comments did come up in some European MSM.....

    They have been content to lead from behind and pay for that leading from behind....

    Merkel's speech was actually two fold....1) a warning to Trump and US elites in DC and 2) prepping the German public at large that they will have to start stepping up and accepting that German must lead.....if they value Europe and a majority in fact do value Europe...

    CHECK the polling......Germans while not cheering for Article 5 do in high polling numbers thoroughly accept Russian as an existential threat to both Germany and Europe...and are willing to defend both from Russian attack.

    German culture is interesting if you confront it..then their back stiffens up and they can get aggressive and defensive...all the while remaining outwardly calm and good mannered......but they will not engage with you....and it has a quiet determination if things gets bad that many had not previously seen until the truck attack in Berlin that allowed the society as a whole to both quietly grieve and get on with every day life....

    They inherently know they must now step forward and lead....and you must as a politician gently nudge and gently convince with good arguments and then suddenly they will support it..."as it was their idea"...BUT at the same time they do not like being the "bank" for the EU.

    Right now Germans who save and they save a lot... have lost over 38B Euros on their savings and retirement plans in order for the ECB to keep the interest rate at ZERO in order to bail out Italy, Spain, Greece and others who truly overspend with their "EU credit card" and they are growing tired of it....thus they must be nudged and that was what Merkel has started to do....

    So when discussing Germany fully understand it and the current German culture.....

    Also remember that everything that has proven to have not worked in the US gets imported into Germany with a 10 year time lag and Germany is now coming out of that "US excess of failures" and are now moving again on their own agenda....

    So when people critique Germany you are indirectly critiquing the US....
    BTW this is coming from a journalist who has been highly accurate on Trump's Russian connections and it goes to heart that you never have wanted to entertain..a sitting US President tied directly to Russian mob money and RIS.....

    AND remember the Merkel comment "shared common values" that she accused Trump of not supporting.....

    A source in IC is telling me that while many allies Intel Agencies have sent incriminating evidence against the Trump family-Germany's has "bent over backwards" in providing evidence including large amount of intercepts going back a decade showing pattern of criminality.

    My source goes on to say that Trump is aware of Germany's efforts and is blaming Merkel and this explains his recent behavior re Germany.
    NOW with this mind..GO back and reread the Trump EU German comments English word for English word....

    Trump thinks as a ADAH child...he talks and thinks in short choppy sentences and words.....and does not hold to a thought longer than 14 seconds......

    BUT to say..."those Germans really bad...really bad"...paused then he shifts to the German "car thing" but that was not what the first thought on "bad really bad" refers to....that comment was Trump thinking aloud to himself and not meant for the public even though he said it publicily....

    Having sent years doing strategic debriefings in three languages you tend to listen to the flow of the words and how that is structured and to pauses...and you then start to be in the mind of the individual saying the words and if you are really good you become literally a lie detector just based on "words".....

    Trump does not realize he has been under European intel surveillance and monitoring ever since he decided to do business with Russian money....and that is from 1986...

    Many Americans do not inherently understand that Russian oligarchs, Russian state, Russian black money, Russian gangs and Russian intel services are one and the same....the borders are flowing and ever changing so when you get a loan to do business in say Russia and even though an honest business that loan and that came from say VTB or Gazprom or Alfa Bank it was in the end approved by Putin and company...and the RIS.....

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    Azor...just keep this mind......

    NSA has been literally "reading" the Russian diplomatic communications channel which is highly secure ......FOR YEARS..........AND this is critical and HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.

    IF the NSA has "allowed this to be leaked" AND it has then it judged the threat of Trump to US democracy....AND that was a stage where the intel collection abilities took a back seat....

    We now know #NSA intercepted & decrypted hi-grade Russian dip comms in 2016, so assume FBI knows everything Kislyak told Moscow about Trump.

    It's too early to call this VENONA 2.0, but we may be getting close. Which is YUGE, CI-wise. Team Trump has a serious problem.

    Which is why there have been NO ACTUAL WH denials on the fact that actual conversations occurred between Kushner and the Russian Ambassador, just weak "cannot recall" lies.

    AND rest assured when the Russian shifted their comms so did NSA...

    BTW...three social media journalists 2 "conservative and one a Democrat have been driving the Russia Trump story for over three years now and have been largely correct on their breaking stories much of which is now being confirmed by US MSM...

    The interesting question is why do IC and DoJ sources trust them vs. US MSM......because MSM has sat on a number of articles and not released them out of fear of corporate sponsor reactions...
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    Jared Kushner met w/ the head of a Russian state-owned bank (Vnesheconombank) - one that recently played host to a spy ring.

    BTW VTB is virtually no actually bankrupt and only supported by the Russian Central Bank as it is closely tied to Putin....thus any loans it makes ...the approval comes from Putin directly....it is his own house bank....

    This Russian spy pled guilty to criminal conspiracy in 2016, in the Southern District of NY. That was Preet Bharara's district.
    The Trump fired Federal Prosecutor who was at that the time of the firing ALSO handling a Russian mob money laundering RICO case....

    So Kushner met w/the head of a bank that:
    -is under US sanctions
    -is used to fund Putin's "pet projects"
    -is used to plant spies in the US

    And it was as the Russian bank stated..just trying to get into business in the US and needed Kushners assistance...come on.....
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    Jared Kushner is being questioned by Senate Intel Cmte for a previously undisclosed meeting w/ the head of a Russian bank. There's more..
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    Reference the Russian bank VTB.....
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    HIGHLY unusual bot activity around Trump twitter account .....this many bots which are largely computer driven and from outside the US is totally out of the norm even for Twitter....

    @realDonaldTrump has gained over 5 mil followers in less than 3 days. Take a look- mostly bots.

    Someone is playing with Twitter statistics/trends and or follower numbers and or is waiting to unleash a major bot assualt on something....or someone ......

    Simply not normal.....this warning from those that watch such buildup of Twitter bots.....DO NOT CLICK ON LINKS of TWEETS w/ TEASER LINES.

    Tons of new accts w/ no profile pic or bio. Like this:
    THIS is the mark of a computer controlled series of bot accounts....


    MIT research has indicated that Twitter in fact has the potential of 45M bots accounts that they do not realize actually exist...so this 5M in three days tends to confirm this research....Twitter at first denied this but stated "they would look into it"...
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    Sources: Russians discussed potentially 'derogatory' information about Trump and associates during campaign
    By Pamela Brown, Jim Sciutto and Dana Bash, CNN
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/30/p...ion/index.html

    In the USG IC the term "derogatory information" means that those that hold it can in fact blackmail you.....

    AND should be enough to have a USG security clearance immediately rescinded...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Jared Kushner is being questioned by Senate Intel Cmte for a previously undisclosed meeting w/ the head of a Russian bank. There's more..
    This reality above is now seriously clashing with Trump's altered state of reality......

    WHY would a sitting President even be concerned about what Russians in this case Putin really "thinks or laughs"??????

    Donald J. Trump‏
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    Russian officials must be laughing at the U.S. & how a lame excuse for why the Dems lost the election has taken over the Fake News.


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    NOTICE just how Trump a supposedly descendent of a German continues his German bashing.....

    Donald J. Trump‏
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    We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change

    LAST time I checked Germany is not about to change simply for Trump.....

    WHAT is far more interesting is then the proTrump trolling that kicks in on
    is tweet from a known white nationalist.

    Mike Tokes‏
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    John Podesta should be in jail.
    Hillary Clinton should be in jail.
    The evidence provided by wikileaks is overwhelming.

    Please investigate the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich. Intimidation has been used to silence anyone talking about it. Liberal fascism...

    The portland killer was a left wing Bernie supporter who wanted to kill trump voters.
    These are not alt-right events.
    BUT WAIT he was verbally abusing two female Muslims and the two he killed..one was a Republican Iraqi vet....

    Meanwhile you have Antifa, a left wing domestic terrorist organization inciting violence and rioting in your city yet you do NOTHING. Shame!

    Congressional democrats are trying feverishly to bury this story. @OANN has wiped its website clean of reports on Seth Rich #ExposeTheLeft

    The fake news media is nothing more than a globalist propaganda outlet.
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    Frmr CIA Dir McLaughlin: Trump creating rift w/ Germany and Europe "is one of the most damaging things I have seen in...years and years."
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    Who assured us that Tillerson would be a responsible steward of American foreign policy.
    http://wapo.st/2rerEMQ?tid=ss_tw&utm....b5270fdaf5de#

    FM Lavrov lashes out at #France Pres Macron criticism of @RT_com, @SputnikInt ... blames Obama admin's "anti-#Russia campaign."

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