Russia's Federation Council thinks events in Armenia are completely repeating first phase of coup in Ukraine.Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
Russia: 'Events in #Armenia repeat 1st phase of #Ukraine coup.' Ditto Budapest '56, Prague '68? #ElectricYerevan pic.twitter.com/yTuxF8Di4V
Even Russian media that lies is having a problem now with their own journalists saying something totally different than the party line.
youtube.com/watch?v=4HlezCYC1QY #Russia's LieNews #fail. Anchor: #Ukrainians did it! Reporter: 'militias' did it! pic.twitter.com/Ec8MDCn7ED
Ukr border guards beat off 5 RU attacks at #Marinka yesterday, 1 soldier WIA http://inforesist.org/pogranichniki-...kov/?_utl_t=tw
Militants attacked a checkpoint in Maryinka, wounded one soldier of Ukrainian army pic.twitter.com/vW6pjugMoV http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/24-june...arinka-wounded
Yle Kioski Investigated: This is How Pro-Russia Trolls Manipulate Finns Online http://kioski.yle.fi/omat/troll-piece-2-english
So... according to russian logic bulletproof vests are lethal weapons. https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/stat...32401118343168
Police force seized weapons in Luhansk region: 4 AK assault rifles, pistol,grenade launchers pic.twitter.com/Tlcy1nKcQC http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/24-june...sk-region-4-ak
SBU detained two cars with meat, which combat of Ukrainian army tried to take in LNR pic.twitter.com/3RObggmcJX http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/24-june...t-of-ukrainian
Analysis #Map
Spent half an hour w/ that extremely interesting Russian video from #CP31.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qltdSVDK4 pic.twitter.com/TfP1NvDGoH
Conclus:
1.Ukis don't shoot first. Snipers would've no problem if they wanted
2.Ukis control 15km^2 more than I thought
3."Scattered" front
The coming storm.
Baltic Sea security report"
by @edwardlucas
@cepa http://www.cepa.org/sites/default/fi...compressed.pdf
Pskov in #Russia LOVED the #Nazis as shown by the mass of #Russian #Nazi supporters in this videohttps://youtu.be/4XuIRBcD-Bk?t=52s
Great article by @pavelsheremet on life in Transnistria where illegal trade is taking a serious hit http://kommersant.ru/doc/2747241
Russian-backed militants know about OSCE mission movements
http://www.unian.info/war/1093188-in...movements.html pic.twitter.com/B76myIDcZ7ers
REMEMBER 23 members of the current OSCE SMM are Russians.
Dep Sec of Russian Security Council: If Baltic States "like to be targets" because of NATO anti-missile shield, "it is their choice".
Almost 1,200 people are missing in Donbas http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...as-391879.html
Captured Russian AF sniper who fought in Ukraine received so-called "humanitarian aid" from OSCE in Dec 2014
Verified in his video interview with the Ukrainian Security Service.
Russia not backing down from "mythology" created to explain away Ukraine crisis http://bit.ly/1LgpJwu
People involved in crimes will be arrested when crossing checkpoints-Turchynov on new pass control system in ATO area http://en.censor.net.ua/n341306
Anti-Americanism Now Russias Official Ideology, Nezavisimaya Gazeta Says | The Interpreter http://www.interpretermag.com/anti-a...a-gazeta-says/ via @Interpreter_Mag
In #Crimea, in the village of Voloshino on the border with Kherson region, russian invaders placed howitzers. https://twitter.com/Dbnmjr/status/613463854564163584
Russias OSCE representative warns of new escalation of conflict in Donbas
http://www.unian.info/politics/10932...in-donbas.html pic.twitter.com/wu1MCxFLHv
Last day, Militants attacked Mariinka checkpoint 4 times & Zolote checkpoint once. 1 wounded - Border guard servicehttp://dpsu.gov.ua/ru/about/news/news_7595.htm
Below is interesting as it is probably true as the report has been verified from several Ukrainian sources.
Interesting in that after Minsk 1 and then 2 it was often stated and especially by Russia that the Agreement was to the determent of the Ukraine and in initial reading it appears that way.
BUT the Ukraine has elegantly fulfilled the basis of the Agreement and literally thrown it back at the Russians meaning the Russians must pull back all foreign fighters, mercenaries, volunteers, vacationers as part of the disarming process and they must submit to open and fair elections conducted using Ukrainian law ---THIS has been mentioned something Russia would never allow thus it trys continually to change Minsk 2 and or modifiy the Minsk 2 which Hahn is trying here to do.
What the EU rep seems to have forgotten is that once the eastern region has the so called "federalization" that Putin wants WILL they continue to implement Minsk 2--IMHO NO.
So the question begs to be asked WHO inside the EU is pushing this concept--it just does not appear out of "heaven" one day and then is carried forth--it would though fit what Germany and France have been trying to do--circumvent their own Agreement to appease Russia and give Putin a "victory" in the hopes he will then pull out.
Talk about Munich 1938 and driven by Germany and France who should actually know better.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/2...mlins-demands/
Europe pressuring Ukraine to meet Kremlins demands
2015/06/24 News
Article by: Serhiy Sydorenko, European Pravda, June 23, 2015
Despite the European Unions apparent support of Ukraine, Brussels sometimes comes up with ideas that evoke amazement among Ukrainians who wonder how it is possible to have such a wrong perception of reality.
The only consolation (for Ukrainians) lies in the hope that a public airing of the inappropriateness of the proposals of the EU representatives will convince them to abandon what they have started. Therefore, we hope that our publication will help stop the new initiative of the European Commission, which, to put it mildly, is rather hostile to Ukraine.
European Pravda has learned that Johannes Hahn, the commissioner for European Neighborhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations, during his visit to Kyiv last week, tried to convince Ukrainian authorities that Kyiv needs to carry out the last points of the Minsk agreement and not wait for Russia and the Russian-controlled militants to carry out their portion of the agreement.
What are they asking of Ukraine?
The new proposal so far does not yet have the status of an official EU requirement. It is more likely that the EU is currently testing the reaction of the Ukrainian side regarding the idea of a mild renegotiation of the requirements of the Minsk agreement.
But even Kyivs unconditionally firm response during the first round of the negotiations did not prevent the members of the European Commission from raising the issue again.
European Pravdas correspondent was present during a closed session where one of the highest officials of the European Commission responsible for Ukraine (we agreed not to disclose his name) suddenly announced that there were problems in Kyivs implementation of the Minsk Agreement.
Yes, we are talking about Russias violations of the Minsk Agreement, he said. But is Ukraine doing everything to comply with the Minsk requirements? Why dont you move ahead with providing special status to the Donbas? After all, you can do that immediately and demonstrate Kyivs good will toward carrying out Minsk, the official explained.
The arguments of the Ukrainian politicians who were at the meeting that the Minsk Agreement deliberately consists of separate stages and that there is no point in carrying out the last point when Moscow is not even complying with the first one had no effect on the EU representative. He continued to insist that Ukraine needs to fulfill the Minsk agreement in advance.
The Verkhovna Rada is already aware of the new EU requirement.
Rumors emerged last week and were later confirmed, Ivanna Klympush-Tsintsadze, first deputy head of the Parliamentary Committee on Foreign Affairs, told European Pravda.
The Europeans are demanding that we propose a strategy for the special status of Donbas. And they want this status not to be limited to three years (as in the law about the status of certain territories) but to be made permanent, she said.
According to Klympush-Tsintsadze, somehow the complex approach to carrying out the Minsk-2 Agreements is being negated suddenly. Despite the fact that the first steps have not even been carried out the ceasefire is not respected, the heavy weaponry has not been withdrawn, our hostages have not been returned but the EU is telling Kyiv to carry out the fifth or seventh step, she said.
Kyivs Reaction
Multiple government sources confirmed that this idea first appeared during Hahns visit to Kyiv. And one of his meetings turned out to be almost completely dedicated to this idea.
The official participants in the negotiations with Hahn refuse to comment officially, explaining that the situation is too sensitive.
However, as a result of discussions not on record European Pravda was able to put together a scenario of the negotiations.
The negotiations that were held in the Verkhovna Rada were incredibly complex and emotional. Voices were raised. The Ukrainian participants considered this idea practically a betrayal on Hahns part. Europeans, on the other hand, tried to make the case the Ukraine itself must demonstrate greater flexibility and progress on the Minsk issue in order to remove any claims on the part of Russia, one of the negotiators told European Pravda
At one point the Ukrainian representative even told the commissioner that he is advocating the same position as the Moscow representatives, another source said. After emotional and fruitless negotiations in the Rada, Commissioner Hahn went to meet the president.
There the negotiations were not as emotional. The commissioner was more constructive with President Poroshenko and paid more attention to reports on the violations of the Minsk agreement by Russia, one of the Verkhovna Rada participants reported. However, another source insisted that during Hahns negotiations with Poroshenko the Europeans again perhaps in milder terms raised the question of Ukraine going ahead in carrying out the Minsk requirements.
Meanwhile, our source at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs says the situation should not be overly dramatized and that there are no demands on the part of the EU.
According to the diplomat, so far Kyiv is not being asked to grant special status to the Donbas but to discuss the possibility of such a provision.
The EU wants for all the Minsk questions to be discussed in the subgroups of the Interim Contact Group in order to avoid taboos on certain topics, including this one. But this is an informal discussion, an exchange of ideas. The official dialogue will begin only after the elections with the legitimately elected representatives (of several regions of the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts) the Foreign Ministry source said.
Instead of an epilogue
At present it is difficult to say if this unexpected proposal by the European Commission, which was made twice in just a few days (first in Kyiv during the visit of the European commissioner and then at a closed session at the EU), will advance further.
Much depends on how categorically this option was refused by the Ukrainian side. For now, all sources without exception say they are against any revision of the Minsk agreements even a modest revision.
My conversations indicate that at the EU they sometimes act as though they want to achieve elections in the Donbas without thinking too much about how to conduct them at present, said one of our sources who is involved in the Minsk dialogue on the Ukrainian side.
They want the imitation of success in the settlement. However, they do not have any answers to our questions about why theyre not reacting to the destruction of Shyrokino, Debaltsevo, Uhlehorsk. This is very frightening because it means we are being left to face Russia alone. But our position is firm: the Minsk agreements are a composite and currently no point of the Minsk agreement is being fulfilled, he concluded
What is interesting about this article is the simple fact that right after Crimea Putin is recorded on Russian TV stating that he had given orders to his Border Security Commander to secure the border so fighters and weapons could not cross"NOTICE he says nothing about this nor does the Russain interviewer bring up the Russian TV interview with Putin.
http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...-traffic/#8888
Russian Security Chief Says Flow of Volunteer Russian Fighters to Ukraine 'Cannot be Stopped'
00:24 (GMT)
Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of Russia's Security Council, said that Russian authorities cannot hinder the flow of Russian volunteers to Ukraine to fight with the so-called "militia" in the self-proclaimed "Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics," Kommersant.ru and RBC.ru reported.
He claimed the US had initiated the conflict in southeastern Ukraine, and repeated a well-worn trope of Russian disinformation. The Interpreter has translated excerpts from the Interview:
Kommersant: And once again, the US is behind this?
Patrushev: You have to look objectively at the events. The USA is trying to prove that Russia is a side in the conflict in Ukraine. But that's no so. In fact, the USA itself is the initiator of the conflict in Ukraine.
Kommersant: How is that?
Patrushev: You haven't caught my drift...They have initiated all these events. In one of his recent interviews, Barack Obama acknowledged this.
Kommersant: But he only said that the US was a "facilitator" during the change in government in Kiev...
Patrushev: The change in government in fact became the impulse for these events which had occurred there. Kerry has an aide [Victoria] Nuland, who published the sum of $5 billion spent on the USA in order to organize these events.
Kommersant: She said that they had spent $5 billion in support of democratic institutes and civil society.
Fact Check: The $5 billion is actually all aid given to Ukraine for 20 years, of which some component is for democracy promotion. That means aid given to the Yanukovich regime. Politfact.com, a site that analyzes such claims explained how misleading the Russian claim is that the US "spent $5 billion on anti-government riots" and awarded the claim its "pants on fire" designation which means it is an egregious lie.
Patrushev: There was a lawfully-elected president, whether you like him or not, it's a question of appraisal, he was legally elected, and no one denies this. But he didn't suit the USA. And although his term as president was coming to an end, and the people of Ukraine would not have re-elected him, they decided to overthrow him forcibly.
This was their political mistake. If they had waited, then they could have brought in the people they needed lawfully. But they initiated a coup d'etat. If there hadn't been a coup, there wouldn't have been the events in the Crimea and the east of Ukraine.
Kommersant: But didn't the unrest in Kiev begin after Viktor Yanukovich, under pressure from Moscow, rejected the association with the European Union?
Patrushev: He postponed the signing of this agreement -- and not under Moscow's pressure. He simply realized that he hadn't sufficiently comprehended the essence of this document and didn't understand what its implementation might lead to. Ukraine is in the free-trade zone of the CIS, and the consequences of this step were simply explained to Yanukovich. He had not taken them into account before and decided to take a pause in order to figure out these issues.
To accuse Russia of how the events in Ukraine developed is to have cause and effect change places. "The wind blows because the tree is rocking." The initiators of the events in Ukraine are the USA. Through a coup, they brought to power people they control. Meanwhile, the socio-economic situation in Ukraine was worsening, so they had to think up a reason for why that was happening. In their logic, it is explained that Russia is to blame for everything. In fact, they don't care what will happen in Ukraine. They simply have to put pressure on Russia, which the USA is doing.
Kommersant: You've expressed concern about the presence of Russian volunteers in the ranks of the Islamic State [ISIS]. Why isn't the Russian government concerned about the fact that thousands of Russians head off to fight in the Donbass?
Patrushev: The Islamic State is a terrorist group, everyone acknowledges that. There are no terrorist groups on the territory of Lugansk and Donetsk regions. Everything could in fact be resolved without a civil war, if the Minsk agreements are followed. But they aren't fulfilled.
In Ukraine now, even in one family, relatives often take diametrically opposed possitions and argue. This is a civil conflict. We have been providing and continue to provide support to Ukrainian refugees who, in fact, are not accepted either in the EU or in the USR -- but to get involved in a civil conflict is not prudent.
Kommersant: But the Russian authorities are not hindering Russian Federation citizens from going to fight in the Donbass...
Patrushev: We don't draft anyone and don't encourage it. But it is impossible really to hinder this. After all, 2 million refugees from Ukraine didn't come to Russia just like that -- they have relatives and friends here. They tell them about the brutalities happening there. And emotions already kicks in -- people go there and take part [in battles--Kommersant.]
Patrushev said Russia was doing all it could to encourage the Minsk agreements but when asked why they didn't close the border through which armaments and personnel are flowing, Patrushev said:
We cannot close the border. What can we do, organized a blockade as it was in Leningrad? For the entire population of the Donbass? We're essentially feeding them now, their living conditions are extremely difficult. Although it is said in the Minsk agreements that the Ukrainians themselves must foster the normalization of the social and economic situation both in Lugansk and in Donetsk. But they aren't doing that!
Here Patrushev dodges the fact that essentially, Russia and the LNR control the border, and do not allow Ukrainian border authorities or the OSCE monitors to inspect the cargo coming in as "humanitarian convoys". OSCE can only monitor, not intercept arms, and it reports regularly of men in camouflage and armor crossing to and from Russia.
There is no objective reason why Russia couldn't stop the flow of tanks and troops and submit to border inspection; it battled to force Ukrainian border guards away from certain crossings so they could freely cross. Yet a key condition of the Minsk agreement is returning the border back to Ukrainian control, and Patrushev does not comment on this.
-- Catherine A. Fitzpatrick
NOTICE--neither he nor the interviewer seem to want to get into the simple question OK if you cannot stop Russian mercenaries from crossing into eastern Ukraine WHAT about the massive shipments of fuel, munitions, heavy weapons that cross by rail and convoy almost weekly if not daily????
A minimum of two Russian Rail shipments a week have been arriving into eastern Ukraine for over the last six months--all documented and verified.
Interesting trial balloon by the EU it seems-----
EU denies it asked special status for Donbas prior to ceasefire
http://www.unian.info/politics/10934...ceasefire.html … pic.twitter.com/8hcdK2JjM3
Shocked they didn't ask ukr to raise white flag. EU want this conflict to end at almost any cost to ukr.
Ukraine to have no Illusions about #Europe - by excellent Gemma Porzgen.
http://iwp.org.ua/eng/public/1572.html … pic.twitter.com/mGdTQFueHZ
What many EU reps seem not to understand is that the Ukraine is attempting to hold to Minsk 2 at all costs WHILE Russia implements absolutely nothing.
Russians fire from artillery and mortars, Ukrainians respond with only small arms fire.
And in another constant ground fight they are returning fire with 82mm mortars against 122mm and 152mm artillery fire.
AND in the process constantly having loses and wounded--BUT YET Merkel, Hollande and Obama say absolutely nothing.
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Links Found Between White Supremacist Shooter in Charleston and Russia
http://www.interpretermag.com/russia...-24-2015/#8913 pic.twitter.com/Tij3HvKN4i
The Kremlin fears a Ukraine-style revolt in Armenia http://www.bloombergview.com/article...ion-in-armenia …
youtube.com/watch?v=Jml_U9NRkpk … #ElectricYerevan LIVE. Could that yellow-blue guy be a CIA agent fr #Ukraine?pic.twitter.com/EfaOFrazl4
If Moscow Fails to Understand that Yerevan is Not a Maidan, That Alone Could Make It One, Markedonov Says http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com...tand-that.html …
Russia practically controls the entire #Armenia's energy sector: http://neweasterneurope.eu/articles-...enian-protests …
We will Win crowds chant at #ElectricYerevan protest @artakjournalist reporting 4 @CivilNetTV http://civilnet.am/live pic.twitter.com/2tnUNEdDqu
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Ukrainian troops from the 37th Brigade and soldiers from Regiment Azov hoisted the Zaporozhye flag in #Shyrokyne. pic.twitter.com/Jco1lfvTrP
Flag is in 17 meters altitude and can be seen from all over the village.
Sympathetic, human, tragic, beautiful bit of film making. Both sides of the lines in Ukraine. Watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiYTp3sv2tw
youtube.com/watch?v=2hhLSh_NEgM #Donetsk connection! Western 'information soldiers' fighting for #Russia in #Ukraine meet up. pic.twitter.com/atCvZsHtAu
Reference the shot down of MH17----
In new #MH17 video, Ukrainian separatist minister misspeaks, saying "the rocket att... eh, the catastrophe". http://nos.nl/l/2043247 via @NOS
The shellings and ground attacks are intense tonight--maybe due to failure of talks in Paris.
Shyrokyno
22:00 -battle continues, our fighters opened fire w the permitted weapons, enemy artillery attacks ceased https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/613785370342359040
Donetsk NW, different caliber booms and bangs https://twitter.com/relictDon/status/613785769266794497
Dzerzhynsk 22:06
Explosions in the distance https://twitter.com/dimetros7776/sta...85268219453440
Donetsk 22:08
In the north various types of volleys/explosions https://twitter.com/relictDon/status/613785769266794497
Peski was shelled with Grad MLRS [by russians], Donetsk 22:12 https://twitter.com/PVB40/status/613786842471755776
Combat is on in #Shyrokyne. Militants shell Ukr forces w heavy weapons after 2quiet days. Salvos audible in #Mariupol http://www.0629.com.ua/news/868760
#Donetsk
22:08 Proletarskyi ds - individual volleys, quieter, then louder
22:10 small series and frequent volleys https://twitter.com/DoneckiiPatriot/...86331110617088
22:05
"Now again something like GRADs, but closer, #Donetsk, Rosa" https://twitter.com/0954771/status/613784951939563520
Horlivka 22:31
From Stroitel could be seen several flashes towards Nikitovka, #Mayorsk https://twitter.com/062_Region/statu...91628243922944
Horlivka 22:07
Heavy rumble started tow. mine 6/7, ongoing battle with tanks https://twitter.com/062_Region/statu...85592963461121
Heavy fighting in #Shyrokyne again. Some #Azov fighters injured by #Russia|n mortar fire.
pic.twitter.com/LqxrrVHqaT
BREAKING: Battle is underway in Shyrokyne, Mariupol residents hear gunfire http://en.censor.net.ua/n341386
Video said to show Russian-backed militants firing mortars on Donetsk. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=7wwJWws34yU
VIDEO Two towers: Russian sniper and lookout positions at #Pisky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibnohdo0Flw
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0540.../data=!3m1!1e3
Just look how much ammo #Russia's forces have piled up behind GWP next to this #Donbas residential block!
pic.twitter.com/ibCFyKshyv
The US mercenary says,"I joined the info war" & GWP approves,"A guy like u comes on board".."an information soldier"https://youtu.be/2hhLSh_NEgM?t=2m42s
VIDEO Lugansk Airport shows what the Russian strategy is: give us what we want or we will TOTALLY destroy it/you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGtfeD5QyoY
Two #Russia|n tanks & a large cache of ammo next to a Donbas residential block behind GWP & a US mercenary
pic.twitter.com/t4KeiSsV7H
VIDEO Some T-72Б of a Russian 'DPR' tank brigade occupying Donbas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHVsB0HSS5g pic.twitter.com/iStPyfEVgO
VIDEO Russia Hybrid Army plowing #Shyrokine beach and sea with artillery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs7Tf7sgemY
VIDEO Using cover of swimming children a Russian Hybrid Soldier checks out Ukrainian position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXtywtSDra4 pic.twitter.com/eSi2Uvqbx3
VIDEO Ukrainan soldier helping an old man still living in #Pisky because he has nowhere to go. #amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeLgvhMbVgo
VIDEO Ukrainian mortar team defending #Marinka against Russian attackers and invaders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVjA6gkt5hA
VIDEO Russian military convoy of APCs in Crimea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLSvtgWKhVY
Russian Officer Awarded Order of Courage for the Donbas War: https://en.informnapalm.org/officer-...he-donbas-war/ via @en_informnapalm pic.twitter.com/lE6HeKTXk8
@LUGANSK_TODAY
Terrorists used MRLS to destroy infrastructure in #Ukraine controlled part of #Lugansk Region. http://lugansk-news.com/terrorists-s...ugansk-region/ pic.twitter.com/IewgnA4PUg
VIDEO Ukrainian mortar team defending #Marinka against Russian attackers and invaders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVjA6gkt5hA
VIDEO Russian military convoy of APCs in Crimea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLSvtgWKhVY
Video [18+] released how #Ukrainian troops save life of Russian tank driver who attacked them at city of #Debaltseve https://youtu.be/mt1YIBB3t_M
Commentary intermittent English - Crowd has grown - human shield before police - priests intermediating - riot police have 3 water cannons
Armenian riot police now telling protestors/press/human chain to move away from barrier http://civilnet.am/live/#.VYraz1KZjTo … #ElectricYerevan #ոչթալանին
ElectricYerevan #ElectricArmenia protests spread to 4 more cities in #Armenia, including #Guymri. https://twitter.com/24todaynetua/sta...85018708684800 …
ElectricYerevan Night 3. Crowds growing bigger! pic.twitter.com/4fV16xkm9u
A new brilliant sarcastic page trolling #Russian #media. #ElectricYerevan #Russia #Armenia https://m.facebook.com/stoptehactivistspls pic.twitter.com/doKVzDbxHK
Ground fighting is picking up again--heavy shellings usually a sign of a impending ground attack--typical Russian Army attack doctrine since 1945.
Other hotspots during the night - Opytne, Pisky, Leninske, Shchastya and Stanytsia Luhanska
Militants fired on Shyrokyne with howitzers, grenade launchers & GRAD-P. Talakivka & Berdyansk also came under heavy artillery fire
Stanitsya_Luhanska was under fire at night, pipeline damaged, one house got direct hit, destroyed http://newsdaily.com.ua/post/905348?_utl_t=tw
A responce to the #Kremlin #2 Sergei Ivanov's "disinformation" http://on.ft.com/1GxSn5A pic.twitter.com/75ScVeH3UL
Donetsk 9:49AM
21B. Oktyabskyi ds - loud and vibrations in air, probably soon there will be incoming (fire) too https://twitter.com/0954771/status/613962228493103104
"Decent blasts, windows tremble. In #Pisky assault rifles fire"
Donetsk 9:49
Railway station - outgoing can be heard, from Putilovka or maybe Tochmash plant https://twitter.com/donetsk_ukrop/st...62152840462336
Front Line Exclusive: Ukrainian Fighters Repel Putin's Proxy Forces Near Donetsk
http://uatoday.tv/politics/front-lin...sk-445214.html pic.twitter.com/LmXbDsXFto
Militants shelled Pisky and Opytne w/ incendiary munitions, struck #Shyrokyne w/ Grad-P portable rocket launchers https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...21757537835052
One has to admit that the Russian disinformation and propaganda campaign is actually quite good--they shifted on a dime for Armenia.
They were running out of topics for the Ukraine but seemed to have found new topics for Armenia.
US trained professional protestors at a Czech base to repeat Maidan in Yerevan. Nuland involved."
pic.twitter.com/1kznvdi7D7
Russian disinformation agency NTV reports "US may be behind Yerevan protests"
https://twitter.com/rentvchannel/sta...27313480749056
Armenia is part of my country, Russia. Their Maidan must be crushed at all costs. Like Tienanmen, for example" pic.twitter.com/HiKJcHp2QO
Good to go back a reread this article:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...irillova-says/
The problem becomes serious when you begin yourself to drink your own "koolaid"--that is dangerous simply because one loses touch to actual on the ground reality and decisions made tend then to be totally wrong and then 3rd order of effects takes over and spirals out of control.As a result of its propaganda effort at home, one that has seven main goals, Kseniya Kirillova says, the Kremlin has trapped itself in a situation in which Vladimir Putin can either continue to move toward a broader war or face the prospect of an explosion on the streets of Russian cities and towns. What he can’t do is “turn off the television.”
In a commentary for Novy Region-2 today, the Seattle-based analyst identifies these seven goals that the Kremlin is pursuing at home and shows how they leave the Russian leadership with few good choices and threaten both the Russian population and the world.
The seven goals she describes are:
1.A weakening of critical thought. Moscow’s domestic propaganda effort, she suggests, is directed in the first instance to block any critical thought about what is going on, to provide pre-packaged answers that people are simply to accept, and to drive them into “a situation of chaos and panic” where they will behave as a crowd with the crowd’s “archaic instincts.” To do so, the Kremlin-controlled media plays on the worst rather than the best instincts of the Russian people.
2.The Creation of the Image of the Enemy. Like its Soviet predecessors, the Russian government now is promoting the idea of a single enemy with tentacles reaching out to the world. Thus, the US is the main enemy, and all of its allies are labeled “’American puppets.’” RISI President Leonid Reshetnikov, a Kremlin advisor, delivers what is now the standard Moscow message: he says that it doesn’t matter whether Americans are Democrats or Republicans: both want to destroy Russia albeit in somewhat different ways. Ultimately, because Russia will resist, they will both turn to war.
3.Linking All Domestic Problems to Foreign Affairs. In order to silence any criticism of Russia’s mounting problems at home, Kirillova continues, Moscow propaganda seeks to exploit Russian patriotism and to link all problems to the actions of foreigners in general and the US in particular. That silences most Russians who know little about what is happening abroad and are prepared to accept that conspiratorial version of reality.
4.Stressing the Need for Consolidation of Society to Counter Military Threat. Related to the previous goal, Russian propaganda does not miss a chance to suggest that Russians have no choice but to unite given the foreign threat.
5.Putin Presented as Only Leader Capable of Opposing this Military Threat. No comment is necessary, Kirillova suggests.
6.Preparation for Inevitable Deprivations in ‘War Time.’ Given the threatening environment that Moscow media presents, she continues, Russians are encouraged to think that any deprivations they may face are “’a lesser evil’” of what is going to be the inevitable consequence of the current situation: a wider war. They are not encouraged in any case to think about the possibility of changing course.
7.West Must See Russia as Prepared for War. The only hope Russians are offered by Moscow propaganda is that if they show themselves willing to go to war, the West will conclude that it is too risky to oppose the Kremlin.
Russian officials including Putin and his FM are actually getting now a tad paranoid.
Senior Russian official accused United States of orchestrating coup in Armenia" http://www.rferl.org/content/putin-w.../27091328.html …
Russia will use its armed forces to counter any colour revolutions.
#AssadStyle
http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/125858/?vdim25061510 …
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