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    Here is a 2009 Real News Network interview of former CIA and State Department Intel officers on how a War with Iran might begin. Remember this is from 2009.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLT8U...22RVAAAAAAAAAg

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    Here is a 2009 Real News Network interview of former CIA and State Department Intel officers on how a War with Iran might begin. Remember this is from 2009.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLT8U...22RVAAAAAAAAAg
    Slap that is a great question...a better question is: How could we (the US) win a war with Iran?
    but back to your question...obiviously if they do anything stupid towards Israel. Israel will immediately retailate and we are off and running. Another concern is the missle base that Iran is building on the north cost of Venezuela. Based on what you are seeing in the news, Iran is working on: 1. nuc weapons; 2. increasing missile range and 3. closing the straights. The question becomes if Iran has these increased strategic capabilities what is the leverage they want to use against the US and how much will we tolerate? and then where do both Israel and the US's strategic interests line up. This is where time will moves us closer to war.
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    Polarbear,it also shows how important it is to understand how Systems operate and how this understanding affects the survival and prosperity of the United States. Our whole country is being affected by much smaller external system(s). Israel and Iran. That is a very weak position to be in for the supposed World's only Super Power.

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    From Time, Obama: Prevention, Not Containment (March 5, 2012)

    In photo-op before closed-door meeting Monday morning, Obama tells reporters his commitment to Israel's security is "rock solid," says the U.S. will focus on stopping Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

    POTUS: "My policy here is not going to be one of containment. My policy is going to be of prevention."
    I'm convinced the shift from "containment" to "prevention" was well thought out; and that the President is well aware of this spectrum:

    Containment > Responsive War > Preemptive War > Preventive War

    and what "Preventive War" means:

    A preventive war or preventative war is a war initiated to prevent another party from attacking, when an attack by that party is not imminent or known to be planned. Preventive war aims to forestall a shift in the balance of power by strategically attacking before the balance of power has a chance to shift in the direction of the adversary. Preventive war is distinct from preemptive war, which is first strike when an attack is imminent.
    Someone else can suggest the various options for waging "Preventive War". I'm still in "Containment > Responsive War" mode; and intend to remain there. And, no, a back and forth between Israel and Iran would not justify an armed response by the US against Iran. But, I don't write the US playbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarbear1605 View Post
    Slap that is a great question...a better question is: How could we (the US) win a war with Iran?
    but back to your question...obiviously if they do anything stupid towards Israel. Israel will immediately retailate and we are off and running. Another concern is the missle base that Iran is building on the north cost of Venezuela. Based on what you are seeing in the news, Iran is working on: 1. nuc weapons; 2. increasing missile range and 3. closing the straights. The question becomes if Iran has these increased strategic capabilities what is the leverage they want to use against the US and how much will we tolerate? and then where do both Israel and the US's strategic interests line up. This is where time will moves us closer to war.
    Any evidence of this supposed missile base besides the evidence quoted here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tequila View Post
    Any evidence of this supposed missile base besides the evidence quoted here?
    I did a Google search on "Iran Venezuela missile base" 112,000 hits the latest dated Jan 5, 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarbear1605 View Post
    I did a Google search on "Iran Venezuela missile base" 112,000 hits the latest dated Jan 5, 2012.
    A Google search on "alien abductions" gets 16 million results. I'm also curious about evidence.
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    Zbigniew Brzezinski interview on 26 FEB 2012 to include advice to the President for talks with the Israeli PM which he(POTUS) declined to accept based on his recent statement of his policy of prevention vs. containment.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4ubzm_5HWY

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