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Old 06-16-2017   #461
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Russian Mod is claiming in a Russian airstrike on Raqqa they killed Al-Baghaddi....

BUT no gun camera or drone footage to back this claim up with...

BREAKING: US-led coalition says there is no way to confirm Russian claim it may have killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi

Seriously doubt the claim as Baghdadi has been rumored to have left Raqqa weeks ago....and since the man works only face to face and via paper notes and personal couriers seriously doubt Russia could pinpoint his location...

He survived fives years of US prison at Bucca and has survived to now .....seriously doubt he lets the Russians know where he is....
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Old 06-16-2017   #462
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The Russian army publishes a wild, unverified and very unlikely claim and global media turns into parrots.

We MSM really don't learn ...

Russian version of MOD statement suggests the info on al-Bagdadi death (in Russian) "is being verified" bad English translation in their use of "is verified"...

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Old 06-16-2017   #463
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Azor.....I really find it interesting that as someone who was never ever been in either Iraq and or AFG and or talked directly with just captured jihadis and then spent hours talking with them...you feel qualified to make these comments????

You really do not know what you are talking about....and this single sentence reflects that.....

If you took the time to read historically speaking everything printed back to the Ottoman empire and WW1 you might then understand that this underlying idea that the West has been beating up on Muslims and the West did not want us to be great nation states is a theme that is still there today.

IF you had talked with a former Iraqi ISI COL and Army officer who lost his salary and pension because of the US decision to disband the Army and Iraqi government organizations and now you have no money and no way to make money to support an extended family of say 14 and no food and then comes along a Sunni insurgent group and or AQI who offers you 1400 USDs per month to fight Americans..all you ask is where do I sign the contract.....I do not know how many jihadis who fought for AQI had little to no understanding of the Koran and or the Sunnahs and or the Shuras..but fighting for AQI at 1400 per month....was a go....

So before you race to such comments think it through and then ask yourself was I ever in the ME during the fighting and have I ever talked face to face with hardened jihadis.....

BTW a Ansar al Sunnah group leader a 26 year old Baghdad University trained vet who spoke a beautiful Arabic and perfect English led a 40 man group (Arab Sunni and Kurdish Sunni) that we rolled all up.... told me after talking with me for hours....

"Just because I talk with you and just because you do understand me and why I am fighting if I see you on the streets of Baqubah in the future I will kill you...."

BTW he was deadly serious....

Now lets compare experiences....and then lets see "who sees and understands"....
Firstly, are we discussing real or imagined grievances? Are these legitimate (desiring equality) or illegitimate (desiring supremacy)?

Secondly, are we discussing cognitive or emotional biases? Are Islamist terrorists in the West merely mistaken in their understanding of their professed religion or of history? Or do they choose the religious interpretation and historical conclusions that align with their feelings?

Thirdly, there is a vast gulf between a former Ba’athist Iraqi Army officer who lost his socio-political status and living standard due to the CPA, and decides to help take out a U.S. convoy, and the child of a Muslim refugee or migrant in Europe who feels like an outcast, and decides to plant a nail bomb in an open-air market.

Fourth, there is a tendency to equate terrorist violence which should be resisted.

All ideologies that underpin terrorism include egalitarian, supremacist, separatist and integrationist elements. For instance, the Protestant Loyalist/Unionist paramilitaries were both supremacist and integrationist as they did not want to cede their Catholic-inhabited areas to Ireland but also wanted to treat them as lesser citizens. Islamist terrorists tend to be separatist supremacists, given their predilection for killing over converting, and because Qtubis/Takfiris are focused more on “reforming” or revolutionizing Islamic societies than spreading Islam on the whole.

The Provisional IRA’s goals of forcing a British withdrawal from Northern Ireland as well as unification of the island were inherently supremacist given that the Protestants would find themselves facing a tyranny of the majority, in addition to reprisals – official or not – for centuries of injustice. Yet the conflict was ended because the British government forced both sides to accept an egalitarian outcome, and sadly one that “moderate” Catholics had been calling for in the 1960s.

Could Islamist terrorists in the West renounce violence? The issue of disorganization aside (who would one “call” to talk to Islamists in the West?), there is no oppression of Muslims that would warrant the level of terrorism that we are observing. This is the problem with supremacism: the only diplomatic or political “solution” would be to accede to the supremacists’ demands.

In addition, there are differences in how civilians fit into the terrorism: are the civilians the primary targets, incidental to indiscriminate attacks on combatants, or are civilian casualties to be avoided, and to what degree? Despite notable intentional and unintentional atrocities, the Catholic Republicans (specifically the PIRA), killed more combatants (police, military and intelligence) than civilians; the reverse is true of the UDA/UFV. Islamist terrorists in the West, whether affiliated or unaffiliated, tend to deliberately target civilians and seek to maximize civilian casualties.

Lastly, I have never claimed that the solution is to be found within religious texts. I regard “Muslims” as those that identify as Muslims and are widely perceived as such, not specifically those that follow the texts. Theory and practice are very, very different, and Augustine of Hippo noted that there was a “temporal” Christian Church and a “celestial” one, alluding to the Platonic dichotomy of the real and the ideal. The Soviets and Chinese (prior to Jiang) were regarded as Communists, and yet there were massive deviations from the theory of Communism as developed by Marx, to the theory and practice of Lenin, to the theory and practice of Stalin, and to the theory and practice of Mao.

I highly doubt that studying Marx and Lenin would have enabled one to develop argumentation that could have moderated Stalin’s policies. He was not suffering a cognitive bias insofar as leading the dictatorship of the proletariat was concerned. Similarly, I highly doubt that a Danish or Norwegian under German occupation during the war could have appealed to the National Socialists’ racial anthropology to withdraw, given the higher frequency of “Aryan” physical characteristics in Scandinavia than Germany.

Scott Atran’s work has already driven home the point that clerical guidance and textual reinterpretation is not the answer to Salafi-Takfiri-Jihadi terrorism. Yet that does not mean that these people are not Muslim. A large number of Muslims are part of a political community that is predicated more upon sect than nationality.

Do Hezbollah members regard themselves as Lebanese or even Arab, or as Shia? Does it surprise you that the Taliban’s Islamism, created for and practiced by Pashtuns, is more popular in southern Afghanistan and northern Pakistan than the Islamism of Al Qaeda or Daesh?
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Old 06-17-2017   #464
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SW. #Raqqa: pro-Regime forces advanced S. of #Tabqa aiming to block #SDF/#YPG advance, control oil fields and open 2nd front to #DeirEzzor
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Old 06-17-2017   #465
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HUGE SCOOP: Money Sergei Magnitsky exposed & was killed over has now been linked to Syrian chemical weapons program
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/po...ons/index.html

Money flowed from Kluyev's bank to Perepilichnyy's company acct in Switzerland to Cyprus acct of person linked to Syrian chemical weapons

A total of $508 m were "traded" by companies having same address as BALEC...all with Russian and/or Syrian linkage

..and other cash flows ending up in Syria..which corroborates @CNN's scoop. This from a 2015 intelligence memo.
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Old 06-17-2017   #466
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Christo Grozev‏#@christogrozev

I investigated the bank mentioned here a few years ago. Linked it to cashflow from cigarette contraband to Russian and Bulgarian officials
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HUGE SCOOP: Money Sergei Magnitsky exposed & was killed over has now been linked to Syrian chemical weapons program
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/po...ons/index.html

Money flowed from Kluyev's bank to Perepilichnyy's company acct in Switzerland to Cyprus acct of person linked to Syrian chemical weapons

A total of $508 m were "traded" by companies having same address as BALEC...all with Russian and/or Syrian linkage

..and other cash flows ending up in Syria..which corroborates @CNN's scoop. This from a 2015 intelligence memo.
FBME: Assad’s WMD front company implicated in Magnitsky case
http://cyprusbusinessmail.com/?p=46853
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Old 06-17-2017   #468
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Iran's land bridge project was called a fantasy; now it's being cited by the same people to argue the US should stay out of the way.
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HUGE SCOOP: Money Sergei Magnitsky exposed & was killed over has now been linked to Syrian chemical weapons program
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/po...ons/index.html

Money flowed from Kluyev's bank to Perepilichnyy's company acct in Switzerland to Cyprus acct of person linked to Syrian chemical weapons

A total of $508 m were "traded" by companies having same address as BALEC...all with Russian and/or Syrian linkage

..and other cash flows ending up in Syria..which corroborates @CNN's scoop. This from a 2015 intelligence memo.
This explains why Putin ruined relationship with the West over Magnitsky case. Now clear that Sergei stumbled into FSB's black financial ops
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The State Department (#US) doesn't know that the rebels don't attack the #Assad regime since many weeks or why this stupid statement?
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Homs: Photos show #HTS shelling pro-#Assad forces on the
#Salamiyya - #Homs Highway.
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Old 06-18-2017   #472
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Raqqa: Pro-#Assad forces and #YPG are just a few kilometers away from the strategic #Resafa crossroad.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...3757&z=13&m=b#
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THIS speaks volumes.

#Russia's "De-Escalation Zones" have brought *0* land-delivered aid.

0!!

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Old 06-18-2017   #474
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UNCONFIRMED

Breaking : US coalition shoot down a regime warplane who was attacking SDF near Tabqa!

Unconfirmed: #Assad-forces lost Fighter Jet near Rusafa south of Tabqa in #Raqqa province

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Reports coming of international anti-ISIS coalition downing Assad's air force jet after it bombed Kurdish positions SW of Raqqa

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An F-18 shot down an Su-22:

https://mobile.twitter.com/arawnsley...330624/photo/1
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Default Will Iran change its Syria strategy now?

Not unexpected, but this Iranian action has several points of note; notably the IRGC use of SSM launched from Iran to hit ISIS targets in Eastern Syria:
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Iran has launched missile strikes targeting “terrorists” in the Islamic State-controlled Syrian town of Deir ez-Zour in retaliation for last week’s attacks on the Iranian parliament and at the shrine of Ayatollah Khomeini that killed 18 people – mostly civilians.
Link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ld-syrian-town

The Syria threads IIRC show that ISIS has not been the focus of the Iranian-supported coalition; will that now change after the Tehran attack?
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UNCONFIRMED

Breaking : US coalition shoot down a regime warplane who was attacking SDF near Tabqa!

Unconfirmed: #Assad-forces lost Fighter Jet near Rusafa south of Tabqa in #Raqqa province

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Reports coming of international anti-ISIS coalition downing Assad's air force jet after it bombed Kurdish positions SW of Raqqa
AND the Trump FP for Syria is again exactly what????

This is not going to end well........

BREAKING: Russia to consider any airborne objects detected west of Euphrates River - including coalition aircraft - as legitimate targets.

US is in trouble as Trump hasn't the intellect, experience or temperament to grasp / react to developing global events.

BUT WAIT...now comes Trump supporters ......

You all think Trump wants a war with Russia? you are delusional.. The leftist dems and globalist GOP want this pathetic war.
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AND the Trump FP for Syria is again exactly what????

This is not going to end well........

BREAKING: Russia to consider any airborne objects detected west of Euphrates River - including coalition aircraft - as legitimate targets.

US is in trouble as Trump hasn't the intellect, experience or temperament to grasp / react to developing global events.

BUT WAIT...now comes Trump supporters ......

You all think Trump wants a war with Russia? you are delusional.. The leftist dems and globalist GOP want this pathetic war.
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Russia waters down threat to Coalition aircraft. Now says will 'escort'. A few minutes ago said would be tracked by Russian SAMs as targets

Russia claimed to kill Baghdadi east of the Euphrates. West is west and east is east and always the twain shall meet.
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Not unexpected, but this Iranian action has several points of note; notably the IRGC use of SSM launched from Iran to hit ISIS targets in Eastern Syria:
Link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ld-syrian-town

The Syria threads IIRC show that ISIS has not been the focus of the Iranian-supported coalition; will that now change after the Tehran attack?
I don't think so.

I believe that the Iranian strike was not for the benefit of Daesh. Given Iran's presence on the ground in Iraq and Syria, with the IRGC operating along with Iraq's PMUs and effectively leading the Syrian "National Defense Forces", why would Teheran have waited until after it was attacked to make a significant strike against Daesh?

No, the missile strike was to signal Iran's resolve to the United States and to Pakistan. The latter has been the traditional sponsor of Sunni Islamists in Iran, and yet its sponsored groups were curiously quiet during Obama's tenure, despite the Iranian-inflicted carnage in Syria. Perhaps Trump has greenlit Islamabad to set Iran ablaze?
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New details on #Syria jet shoot down: US F18 fired 2 missiles at range of .6 miles; 1st missed, 2nd blew rear SU-22 off; chute spotted

Assad claims the pilot was killed...
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