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    Buzzfeed published 35pp memos on #Russia having compromising evidence of #Trump in perverted sex acts #GoldenShowers https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...V#.rrJ8M9N4q#…

    "there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian govt" @CNN

    NOTE:...it is interesting that carter Page showed up in Paris meeting Russian reps and talked supposedly about Syria....and then Page being in Moscow recently claiming to be an advisor for Trump when the transition team was stating he was not....

    Hackers in Romania and Bulgaria worked to hack Clinton camp under Kremlin's direction and were paid in cash by BOTH Trump & Russian sources.

    Trump lawyer Michael Cohen (married to Russian) was Kremlin liaison for damage control, covering up scandals re Russia's op, Manafort, Page

    Sechin so wanted sanctions lifted, he offered Page/Trump 19% brokerage stake in Russia's Rosneft. Page agreed

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    More breathtaking diplomacy from spokesperson of Russia's Foreign Ministry: God created the world in 7 days, and Obama has 9 to destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Buzzfeed published 35pp memos on #Russia having compromising evidence of #Trump in perverted sex acts #GoldenShowers https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...V#.rrJ8M9N4q#…

    "there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian govt" @CNN

    NOTE:...it is interesting that carter Page showed up in Paris meeting Russian reps and talked supposedly about Syria....and then Page being in Moscow recently claiming to be an advisor for Trump when the transition team was stating he was not....

    Hackers in Romania and Bulgaria worked to hack Clinton camp under Kremlin's direction and were paid in cash by BOTH Trump & Russian sources.

    Trump lawyer Michael Cohen (married to Russian) was Kremlin liaison for damage control, covering up scandals re Russia's op, Manafort, Page

    Sechin so wanted sanctions lifted, he offered Page/Trump 19% brokerage stake in Russia's Rosneft. Page agreed
    @MichaelCohen212 you don't deny meeting Russia during the campaign to discuss hacks of Democrats?

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    Thus far, it's a load of drivel.

    I could concoct a story about how Hillary Clinton was beholden to and compromised by the Al-Thanis, deliberately attempted to steer US foreign policy as Secretary to serve the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (e.g. Egypt, Libya, Syria) and was backed by the Al-Thanis throughout the nomination process and presidential campaign. And do you know what? It would be more factual than this unverified story written by unknown persons on behalf of Clinton and the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Thus far, it's a load of drivel.

    I could concoct a story about how Hillary Clinton was beholden to and compromised by the Al-Thanis, deliberately attempted to steer US foreign policy as Secretary to serve the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (e.g. Egypt, Libya, Syria) and was backed by the Al-Thanis throughout the nomination process and presidential campaign. And do you know what? It would be more factual than this unverified story written by unknown persons on behalf of Clinton and the Democrats.
    BUT WAIT....does not negate the massive real estate deals done by Tump and Russian oligarchs...does not negate the 10M USD fine for laundering money...largely Russian...

    AND does not negate why the FBI FISA request was turned down for four major Trump Russian associated advisors does it...ESPECIALLY since in 38,000 FISA requests over the years ONLY 12 have been rejected...WHY were these four rejected and they had travels to Russia and tight connections to Russia.

    Kleptocracy...Russian black money and US real estate deals.....

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    Must-read from @HarvardIR on the link between kleptocrats, anonymous companies, and US real estate:
    http://hir.harvard.edu/lifestyles-ri...-real-estate/#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Thus far, it's a load of drivel.

    I could concoct a story about how Hillary Clinton was beholden to and compromised by the Al-Thanis, deliberately attempted to steer US foreign policy as Secretary to serve the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (e.g. Egypt, Libya, Syria) and was backed by the Al-Thanis throughout the nomination process and presidential campaign. And do you know what? It would be more factual than this unverified story written by unknown persons on behalf of Clinton and the Democrats.
    You are missing the point. Here is a Trump Tweet from today:
    Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?
    Trump sees this as a personal attack on him by the U.S. Intelligence Community!

    So how do you expect Trump will receive word from his intelligence agencies that the Russians have little green men in Estonia or that they are secretly moving troops into Latvia? From here on out, the Russians will have a free hand in Eastern Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    You are missing the point. Here is a Trump Tweet from today:

    "Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?"

    Trump sees this as a personal attack on him by the U.S. Intelligence Community!

    So how do you expect Trump will receive word from his intelligence agencies that the Russians have little green men in Estonia or that they are secretly moving troops into Latvia? From here on out, the Russians will have a free hand in Eastern Europe.
    Considering that the current and former CIA Directors going back a number of years endorsed Hillary Clinton, along with various CIA officers and Republican members of the national security community, Trump may well have a point.

    It is clear that people were hoping that Hillary would allow for more CIA intervention in Syria and Ukraine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Considering that the current and former CIA Directors going back a number of years endorsed Hillary Clinton, along with various CIA officers and Republican members of the national security community, Trump may well have a point.

    It is clear that people were hoping that Hillary would allow for more CIA intervention in Syria and Ukraine...
    The people who do the work in the CIA/NSA are not political appointees. They are career civil servants, many of whom put their life on the line to do what they do. If they thought it was a problem, it was a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    The people who do the work in the CIA/NSA are not political appointees. They are career civil servants, many of whom put their life on the line to do what they do. If they thought it was a problem, it was a problem.
    The CIA Directors are all career civil servants?

    Brennan became a political appointee years ago and his two Deputy Directors are operatives with no experience in intelligence.

    I cannot think of an administration in which the CIA was not politicized, so this is nothing new, really.

    As for the dossier, there are good reasons why the major news outlets refused to publish it and why BuzzFeed did so only with big caveats.

    Ultimately, it revolves around whether or not there is evidence of Trump paying prostitutes to have a "golden shower".

    The rest is simply a rehash of Clinton campaign talking points with some cloak and dagger bits thrown in for excitement.

    I'm sure that Putin found the dossier helpful in determining who in the FSB, and Finance and Foreign Ministries are traitors... *eye roll*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Considering that the current and former CIA Directors going back a number of years endorsed Hillary Clinton, along with various CIA officers and Republican members of the national security community, Trump may well have a point.

    It is clear that people were hoping that Hillary would allow for more CIA intervention in Syria and Ukraine...
    Azor...here is the core problem you are missing...AND this was not carried by say CNN...and or mentioned by Trump it in his critique of the US IC....

    Here is the story behind the story so to speak....NOTICE the accompanying documents supporting the original unredacted report that went to the FBI via McCain NO ONE has seen EVEN Trump is not aware of what was passed...

    Notice the last phase of the article...the FBI included info on the unverified report out of TWO possible concerns......

    1. one they were afraid of it leaking and they not having mentioned it would come back to haunt them as did the Clinton email issue OR AND THIS is what I believe.....IMHO as one who knows how such agencies handle HUMINT...

    2. After 30 years of monitoring Trump activities especially lately between him and his real estate sales to Russian oligarch THEY felt there was something to the unverified report...MEANING...something in that report was verified by something hard they held in their hands and held in the hands of the CIA....

    HUMINT comes in all shapes and sizes BUT it is in the end always rated as a F6 meaning information is Humint in nature thus unverified until otherwise determined.

    NOW here is the kicker that Trump and his team did not fully understand today at his press conference....AND Flynn knows this... FOR an F6 document to land in a highly classified report is in itself strange as the paragraph mentioning it would have been classified as unclassified and clear to all that the information has been unverified....

    NOTICE no one is indicating what classification was given to the paragraph in the classified report which if it was anything other than Unclassified (U) would indicate that in fact elements of the report had been confirmed and verified....and that would have then rated a higher classification depending on what hard evidence was used to confirm it....

    REMEMBER the FBI Counter Intelligence Division is highly separated inside the FBI....and never really leaks so the FBI fear of a leak is highly unlikely so that reason for including is out the window because of possible leaks as far as I am concerned...UNLESS there is something out there and by releasing the fact that it is known to exist ie a video the video becomes for most purposes not usable for blackmail....this occurred years ago when a high level IC officer who was gay and the GRU discovered he was gay...the IC allowed him to remain an continue to hold his clearance if he came out of the closet and informed all..at that point he was not blackmailable

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ch-john-mccain

    The extraordinary but unverified documents published on Tuesday on Donald Trump’s ties with Moscow began life as a piece of opposition research, which has become as much a part of US politics as yard signs and coloured balloons.

    There is a small industry of research and investigative firms in Washington, typically staffed by a mix of former journalists and security officials, adept at finding information about politicians that the politicians would rather stay hidden. The firms often do not know who exactly is hiring them; the request could come from a law firm acting on behalf of a client from one of the parties.

    In this case, the request for opposition research on Donald Trump came from one of his Republican opponents in the primary campaign. The research firm then hired one of its sub-contractors who it used regularly on all things Russian: a retired western European former counter-intelligence official, with a long history of dealing with the shadow world of Moscow’s spooks and siloviki (securocrats).

    By the time the contractor had started his research, however, the Republican primary was over. The original client had dropped out, but the firm that had hired him had found a new, Democratic client. This was not necessarily the Hillary Clinton campaign or the Democratic National Committee. Opposition research is frequently financed by wealthy individuals who have donated all they can and are looking for other ways to help.

    By July, the counter-intelligence contractor had collected a significant amount of material based on Russian sources who he had grown to trust over the years – not just in Moscow, but also among oligarchs living in the west. He delivered his reports, but the gravity of their contents weighed on him. If the allegations were real, their implications were overwhelming.

    He delivered a set to former colleagues in the FBI, whose counter-intelligence division would be the appropriate body to investigate. It is believed he also passed a copy to his own country’s intelligence service, but it felt constrained in what action it could take and left it up to the Americans to do their own investigation and draw their own conclusions.

    As summer turned to autumn, the investigator was asked for more information by the FBI but heard nothing back about any investigation. The bureau seemed obsessed instead with classified material that flowed through a private email server set up by Clinton’s aides. The FBI’s director, James Comey, threw the election into a spin 11 days before the vote by announcing his investigators were examining newly discovered material.

    The former intelligence official grew concerned that there was a cover-up in progress. On a trip to New York in October, he decided to pass the material to the press. He met David Corn, the Washington editor of Mother Jones, who first reported its existence on 31 October.

    The FBI however continued to refuse to comment on the issue, despite reports that it had requested and perhaps acquired a warrant for further investigation from the Foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court. The silence was not altogether surprising. The FBI counter-intelligence division, headquartered in Washington, is extremely secretive, much more so than the New York field office, which had strong links to former prosecutor and mayor Rudy Giuliani, who was by then working for Trump.

    The threat of leaks from New York about Clinton emails had reportedly pushed Comey into making his October surprise announcement.

    In mid-November, the documents took another route into Washington that ultimately led to them being mentioned in the joint intelligence report on Russian interference that was delivered to President Obama and President-elect Trump. On 18 November, the annual Halifax International Security Forum opened in the Canadian city, bringing together serving and former security and foreign policy officials from around the world.

    Senator John McCain, a hawkish Republican, was there and was introduced to a former senior western diplomat who had seen the documents, knew their source and thought him highly reliable. McCain decided the implications were sufficiently alarming to dispatch a trusted emissary, a former US official, to meet the source and find out more.

    The emissary hastily arranged a transatlantic flight and met the source at the airport as arranged. (The Guardian has agreed not to specify the city or country where the meeting took place.) The meeting had a certain cold war tradecraft to it, as he was told to look for a man with a copy of the Financial Times. Having found each other, the retired counter-intelligence officer drove the emissary to his house, where they discussed the documents and their background.

    The emissary flew back within 24 hours and showed McCain the documents, saying it was hard to impossible to verify them without a proper investigation. McCain said he was reluctant to get involved, lest it be perceived as payback for insulting remarks Trump had made about him during his rambunctious campaign.

    However, on 9 December, McCain arranged a one-on-one meeting with Comey, with no aides present, and handed them over.

    “Upon examination of the contents, and unable to make a judgment about their accuracy, I delivered the information to the Director of the FBI. That has been the extent of my contact with the FBI or any other government agency regarding this issue,” the senator said in a statement on Wednesday morning.

    It is not clear what underpinned the FBI’s decision to include a summary of the documents in its highly classified briefing to the president and president-elect and their top staff, before the bureau had completed its investigation. It may have been as a defensive measure, to prove for posterity that it was not involved in a cover-up, or because its investigators believed them to be credible.

    Whatever the motive, it was quickly leaked – first to CNN, which reported on the material on Wednesday. That triggered a controversial decision by BuzzFeed to publish an unredacted version of the documents on its website.

    It is unclear where the BuzzFeed version came from. The author of the reports had been insistent on blotting out references to his Russian sources in the copies he gave to the press, including the Guardian, out of fear for their safety.

    The unredacted version could have come from the original client, who commissioned the research, or from intermediaries between the counter-intelligence contractor and the client.
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    Wall Street Journal Reportedly Identifies Source Of New Trump Dossier
    19:52 (GMT)

    http://www.interpretermag.com/live-u...?pressId=15920

    The 35 page dossier detailing allegations that Donald Trump is being blackmailed by the Russians was, according to the news agencies that broke the story, compiled by a former British intelligence officer whom US intelligence agencies believe is "credible."

    Now The Wall Street Journal has reportedly identified the author as#Christopher Steele, director of London-based Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd., who runs the firm with the other director, Christopher Burrows.

    The Wall Street Journal reports:

    Orbis Business Intelligence was formed in 2009 by former British intelligence professionals, it says on its website. U.K. corporate records say Orbis is owned by another company that in turn is jointly owned by Messrs. Steele and Burrows. It occupies offices in an ornate building overlooking Grosvenor Gardens in London’s high-end Belgravia neighborhood.

    The firm relies on a “global network” of experts and business leaders, provides clients with strategic advice, mounts “intelligence-gathering operations” and conducts “complex, often cross-border investigations,” its website says.#

    Speaking about corporate-intelligence work in general terms, Mr. Burrows said “the objective is to respond to the requirements set out by our clients. We have no political ax to grind.”

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    Azor....there is more to this Trump so called fake story than we are reading.....


    @peterjukes Cambridge Analytica (with Steve Bannon as board member) ran #Trump's campaign. Note Oleg Gordievski's comments.

    Richard Dearlove pulled out of the Cambridge Intel group over "Russian infiltration", @peterjukes
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-amid-claims/#

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