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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    It seems that now even the Russian mercenaries state the "ceasefire" is over.

    Actually there was never a ceasefire other than in the heads of the politicians but on the ground the fighting continued as hard as ever.

    Following massive explosions in Donetsk, Ukraine rebel leader says 'ceasefire' is over

    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...-donetsk/#4667

    pic.twitter.com/yotRcs9kGq

    BREAKING: "After today's missiles on #Donetsk, truce, even formal, must be considered terminated" - Zakharchenko
    Today's explosion in Donetsk
    pic.twitter.com/F0Db5TzR9G
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2014/20-octo...days-explosion

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    Where separatists get their ammo:

    http://112.ua/kriminal/v-portu-nikol...ov-133748.html

    В сообщении говорится, что вследствие небрежного отношения с 2000 года по настоящее время без надлежащего учета, охраны и режима сохранялось 50 млн патронов калибра 7,62, которые по договору комиссии с государственной компанией "Укрспецэкспорт" предназначались для реализации в одну из африканских стран, однако, в связи с наложением эмбарго на экспорт, реализованы не были.

    "Проведенной в ходе проверки инвентаризацией указанных средств поражения зафиксировано наличие лишь половины из их первоначального количества. Любые данные о местонахождении остальных патронов отсутствуют.
    In short: Ukroarmy officials fcuked up 25 mln. rounds, whereabouts is unknown.
    I give 70% probability that militias drunk from that source for months.
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    Moscow's Spy Game
    Why Russia Is Winning the Intelligence War in Ukraine
    By Mark Galeotti OCTOBER 30, 2014
    http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articl...scows-spy-game

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    BREAKING In #Donetsk today #Russian regular army unit #16544 (Borzoy, #Cehchnya) of the 8th cavalry ОМСБр spotted.
    pic.twitter.com/DxvSZJpyfz

    #BREAKINGNEWS Today, the Russian Federation Army took over command to storm #Donetsk #airport!
    New troops, new equp.
    pic.twitter.com/KRMpWlKzld

    This is hilarious! #Russian terrorists in #Ukraine show shot down an UAV. It's a #Russian Orlan-10!
    https://twitter.com/askai707/status/527432884274360320

    LPR Cossack leader claims in gazeta.ru interview that they have a nuclear warhead.
    http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2014/1..._6283505.shtml


    CONFIRMED He was a #Russian regular army soldier. Had army documents on him. No one is claiming his body.
    pic.twitter.com/jBzZyJtAWh
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    Perfect example of a Russian info war troll using a US alias---check the number of followers---surprised Twitter has not shut it down.

    https://twitter.com/lennutrajektoor/...383745/photo/1

    I had posted the link to the info war recruiting and now this seems to be the result of the Russian headhunter ad.

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    #Komaxidze: #Russian army AA unit #32383 of the 67th AA brigade in #Ukraine army territory.

    https://www.facebook.com/irakli.koma...85204861592763

    #Breaking Russian army forces established mobile Msta-S positions in #Stakhanov and fire on Ukr checkpoints N+S the #Seversky_Donets river

    Russian Command Orders Local Terrorists to Paralyze Donetsk-Mariupol Road, Tymchuk Claims

    31.10.2014 12:08

    This is stated by Dmytro on his Facebook page, Censor.NET reports.

    "The Russian command has set an urgent task to its divisions and local gangs to paralyze the road in the direction of Mariupol. Also there are recorded attempts of the subversive reconnaissance groups to penetrate the area west of Mariupol to block the Novoazovsk - Odesa E58 route. The Ukrainian troops actively search and neutralize these groups," he wrote.

    However, Tymchuk noted that in the area of Mariupol the subversive groups conduct reconnaissance of targets (checkpoints, command posts, positions, base camps of the Ukrainian troops). Also reconnaissance of shooting results is being conducted. The enemy seeks to inflict fire damage to our troops on the front line with the help of intense artillery fire.

    "The same scheme (zeroing with subsequent massive fire strikes on stationary targets) is being used by the enemy at Volnovakha direction. Schematics of the objects and evaluation of the firing results are also conducted by the subversive groups," he added.
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    Third extremely large Russian military convoy in the last two days with no plates seen heading into Donetsk today---journalists were told to delete all photos.

    https://twitter.com/shelomovskiy/sta...091392/photo/1

    Spanish journalists car was stopped for taking pictures of the convoy. The journos were asked to delete the pictures

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    Although this site is normally using Ukrainian and Russian they have been exceptionally correct in calling a number of the Russian attacks and pointing out Ukrainian Army weaknesses.

    Although translated using Google---still worth reading and if anywhere close to the reality things are going to get far rougher in the eastern Ukraine in the coming days.

    Again mentioning of the Russian desire to take the Odessa land corridor.

    pic.twitter.com/poJMztQ7i0

    10.31.14 Russian Federation continues to build grouping their forces on the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Thus increasing number of reports about the presence of militants multiple rocket launchers "Smerch" (one of the set of locations - the stock TD "Dominion", Donetsk, the distance to the headquarters of our military in the locality Kramators'k - 84.5 km) "Hurricane" (NP GORLOVKA, a former railway station "Wash", 48 km). Also noticed movement SAM C300 (one of the set of locations 2 starter plants - warehouse TD "Dominion", Donetsk). In the case of modification of PMU-1, the presence of these funds significantly complicates the use of tactical aviation within the whole of the crisis region.

    Also spotted mass rotation of personnel militant groups, while there was a tendency to replace the local militia on Russian servicemen. So, for example, in the locality Elenovka predominant number of personnel at checkpoints has obvious signs of belonging to the Armed Forces. In the Petrovsky district of Donetsk in the last 3 days have gone local militants; locals confirm the presence of a large amount of members of the Army of the Russian Federation. This is most likely caused by the desire to replace out-of-control militant groups. High probability of deployment of advanced control point near the former mine shaft "Chekist» (N47 ° 58'14,89 "; E37 ° 34'23,95" - unfinished military facility), evidenced by a cordon of the village mine security officers as well as deployment of communications near st. Markina.

    It should be noted the increase in the number of troops and armored vehicles in settlements ALCHEVSK, Bryanka, Perevalsk, GORLOVKA, Enakieve and the creation of a reserve in the settlement Rovenki, anthracene, snow, red beam.

    Accumulation seen in the area of ​​impact forces Telmanovo, Day, Krasnopole, unfolding in the area of ​​field hospitals. Based on the overlapping portion of the road E-58 near Samsonov-nameless, we can conclude to the existence of a large number of armored vehicles.

    Also note the work of the enemy sabotage groups in the area of ​​human settlements Kostiantynivka (locals reported firing of small arms in the evening 10/30/14) Debaltseve (arrival of groups of snipers to destroy the artillery gun crews APU), Mariupol.

    Thus, the combined forces of Russia and terrorist organizations "LC" and "DNR" ready to conduct a large-scale attack on several fronts.

    The main direction of impact are expected to be:
    1. South-west: ◾ Group "A": Elenovka-Dokuchaevsk-Volnovaha (task: to cut off supply routes ATO forces in the area and STAROGNATOVKI connection with groups "B" and "B" in the region of n. N. Volnovaha in the future to continue along routes are the T-0509 on Mr. n. Ugledar. Problem: association with a strike group "D" with the aim of creating the encircled troops ATO near the settlement and Kostiantynivka NOVOMIHAYLOVKA).
    ◾ Group "B": KOMSOMOLSOKE STAROGNATOVKA-Don (task: to cut the group of forces near the settlement ATO STAROGNATOVKA and connect with a group of "A" and "B" in the region of n. N. Volnovaha. Further tasks are laid out in Sec. 1.1 )
    ◾ Group "B": Telmanovo-granite-Don. Objective: Significant Groupings ATO dissection near the settlement STAROGNATOVKA, the connection with groups "A" and "B" to create a strike force to further advance in the direction of DON-KIROVSKE MALOYANISOL-REPUBLIC-support operations group "G" on the right)
    ◾ Group "D": KRASNOARMEYSK-TALAKOVKA-Volodarsk Mangushev (task: to cut off the supply lines of forces in the village of ATU Mariupol and gain control over the highway E-58).
    ◾ Group "D": Donetsk Marinka-Kurakhovo (task: access to the rear of the group of forces in the ATO and Kostiantynivka NOVOMIHAYLOVKE to prevent attack on the flank of the shock group "A". The further problem: the offensive in the direction of the settlement Ugledar to create the environment grouping of forces near the settlement ATO Kostiantynivka and NOVOMIHAYLOVKA).

    2. Northwest: ◾ Group "E": Spartak-Avdiyivka-Ocheretino (objective: Capture airport "Donetsk", creating the conditions for a successful strike from n. N. GORLOVKA in the direction n. N. Dzerzhinsky)
    ◾ Groups "G.1": GORLOVKA-Svetlodarsk-Artemovskii; "G.2" PERVOMAYSKIY-Popasnaya-Artemovskii; "Z": GORLOVKA-Dzerzhinsk-Kostiantynivka (problem: the alignment of the front line in a northerly direction to retain control over rokadnoy T0504 highway, cutting off supply routes grouping of forces in the region ATO n. N. Debaltseve, creating the starting line for the offensive in the direction of n. n. KRAMATORSK and Slavic).

    3. North: ◾ Group "I": Bryanka-PERVOMAYSKIY-Lisichanskiy (confirmation there holding artillery barrage on n. N. Gorski, and noticed movement in the direction of the checkpoint № 31. Objective: Capture control n. N. Lisicansk, Severodonetsk, a landmark. In the future development assault on Mr. n. Novoaydar with the aim of cutting supply lines forces TAU group in n. n. of happiness).

    4. Northeast: the enemy's advance on settlement Fortunately, this situation can be regarded as impossible, since p. Seversky Donets River, which divides the Luhansk region in half, there is a pretty good defensive line. That is why, the main focus should be considered a strike strike group "E", the purpose of which will be taking possession of Lisichanskiy and Severodonetskoye to control the crossings over water obstacles to further development of the offensive in the region with the aim to cut Novoaydar communication grouping of forces in N ATO. n. Happiness.

    Presumably, given shock will be preceded by attacks on NP KRAMATORSK (perhaps MLRS "Smerch") and other settlements, where the headquarters are stationed sectors to disrupt the control system by the ATO.

    The reason for the start of full-scale offensive, likely to become a powerful provocation, to be held during the elections 11.02.14.

    Signs of preparation for applying to the provocations have armor strips rapid identification of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as the announced meeting "Patriot of Ukraine" in the Donetsk and Lugansk. Presumably - shelling densely populated areas of Donetsk and Luhansk border zone (on the western outskirts of Donetsk based long-range artillery and MLRS "Grad", the contents of which at a minimum distance from the contact line contradicts the logic). A similar pattern in other localities.

    Ie 2/11/14 will be the reference point for the start of full-scale hostilities by terrorists. But most offensive will presumably 04-05.11.14. It will be linked to the need to sum up the election, if the management of terrorist organizations want to look legitimate. After that, the "legitimate" government of the newly created Republic "LC" and "DNR" declare war on Ukraine. In such a case, any agreement would lose its power and RF perform an ally in the war. This will give the opportunity to use other than existing systems defeat the militants also, for example, the operational-tactical missile systems.

    An indirect confirmation of the date 04-05.11.14 there are rumors that walk among fans DNI in the locality KRAMATORSK and Slavic. According to rumors, these numbers planned return of the DNI in these localities.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxjlb...1oIBw&index=14

    Militiamen remove unexploded Grad missile from rehabilitation centre. It seems none of them have any experience in explosives - these guys either extremely brave or extremely crazy.
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    MOAR nonsence from previously mentioned Elena Vasil'eva (special tribute to outlaw )

    http://www.evasiljeva.ru/2014/09/blog-post_24.html

    list of Russian soldiers "killed" under Debal'tzevo, Donbass.

    1. гвардии младший сержант Виктор Карпухин 1989 гр - Guards sergeant Viktor Karpukhin
    2. гвардии рядовой Никита Сурков 1987 гр - Guards private Nikita Surkov
    3. гвардии старший сержант Глущенко Виталий 1985 гр - Guards sergeant Gluschenko Vitaliy
    4. прапорщик Александр Никулин . 1979 гр - warrant officer Aleksandr Nikulin
    5. старший прапорщик Мыльников Николай 1977 гр - warrant officer Myl'nikov Nikolai
    6. старший прапорщик Сергей Дымов 1975 гр - warrant officer Sergei Dymov
    7. рядовые Гамов Владислав и Гамов Сергей - privates Gamov Sergei and Gamov Vladislav
    8. Сорокин Евгений старший лейтенант - leutenant Sorokin Evgeniy
    9. Дмитрий Абрамов из разведки - scout Dmitriy Abramov
    OK, lets check the names:

    1. Виктор Карпухин, 1989 - Viktor Karpukhin Anatolievich, 27.12.1989, soccer player, team "Gazovik", Orenburg, 2011-2012
    http://fcgazovik.ru/content/view/858/181/

    2. Никита Сурков, 1987 - Surkov Nikita Vladimirovich, 11.08.1987,
    3. Глущенко Виталий, 1985 - Gluschenko Vitaliy Aleksandrovich 17.03.1985
    4. Александр Никулин. 1979 - Nikulin Aleksandr Pavlovich, 14.02.1979,
    5. Мыльников Николай 1977 - Myl'nikov Nikolai Vladimirovich, 13.09.1977
    6. Сергей Дымов 1975 - Dymov Sergei V'acheslavovich, 11.07.1975,
    soccer players, team "Gazovik" 2008
    http://fcgazovik.ru/content/view/131/114/

    7. Гамов Владислав и Гамов Сергей - Gamov Vladislav Evgeniyevich, 02.10.1993, Gamov Sergei Sergeevich, 06.07.1995
    8. Сорокин Евгений - Sorokin Evgeniy Andreevich, 28.11.1995,
    9. Дмитрий Абрамов - Abramov Dmitriy Alekseevich, 10.02.1994
    soccer players, shadow team "Gazovik-2"
    http://fcgazovik.ru/content/view/2284/205/

    Looks like a half of the team decimated, what a terrible loss for Russian soccer!

    The most funny part of this nonsence that Vasil'eva alvays provide photocopies of army documents which look like authentical, with all this bureaukratese, seals, signatures, sent to her by "anonimous honest officers". I believe it's a work of some 80th levell troll inside an army.
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    mirhond---care to make a comment on this Russian artillery unit.

    #Komaxidze: #Russian army the 439th artillery unit #69673 spotted @ & in #Ukraine since Sept.

    https://www.facebook.com/irakli.koma...87316788048237


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    Appears that the Ukraine is now calling Russia on their support of the mercenary elections.

    1. Ukraine will revoke the key special status that Russia so wanted for the Donbas-basically puts the economic support for the mercenary regions onto Russia

    and:

    #Ukraine's President #Poroshenko orders reinforcements to key south and eastern cities in case of new rebel offensive via @BBCBreaking

    Looks like the Ukraine is heading to a full war footing after placing full blame on Russia today if war breaks out between them which will only drive the Russian economy even deeper than it is currently.

    Russian has now been "called out" by the Ukraine--and they were not "suckered in"?

    WHAT is extremely interesting is that both RIA and Interfax seem to be at a "loss for words" on the latest Ukrainian moves--ABSOLUTELY no comments on them for now literally hours.

    No comments either on the extremely fast falling oil prices today nor any comments on the German statement that the sanctions will remain in place for a while to come and potentially more are on the road due to Russian support to the mercenary elections which are a full violation of the Minsk 1 and 2 accords that yes even Russia signed.

    Actually both news agencies seem extremely quiet today---totally unusual for them.

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    Rada's commission of inquiry report on Ilovaisk defeat, July-Aug.2014

    http://obozrevatel.com/crime/04295-o...j-dokument.htm

    Напередодні параду в Києві, 23 серпня від Державної прикордонної служби України надійшла інформація про виявлення на території Сектору Д колон броньованої техніки, яка висувається з території Російської Федерації в напрямку населених пунктів Амвросьевка, Кутейникове.
    Доповідь керівника Сектору Д генерала Литвина П.М. в штаб АТО о 14.30 23 серпня про виявлені колони російської броньованої техніки була розцінена як паніка і залишилась без уваги і прийняття рішень.
    Реакція начальника штабу АТО генерал-лейтенанта Назарова В.М. на чергову доповідь був лаконічним: "Це все херня. Ми це вже проходили. Тримайтесь!"
    Прпозиції про відведення військ з метою запобігання блокування та оточення не затвердили.
    О 21.15 23 серпня генерал Литвин П.М. був викликаний на зв’язок з начальником Генерального штабу, який в цей час перебував в кабінеті міністра оборони.
    Першим доповідь генерала Литвина П.М. вислухав міністр і без коментарів передав слухавку начальнику Генерального штабу, який у відповідь на доповідь сказав: "При зміні обстановки доповідайте в установленому порядку" і повісив слухавку. Жодних команд не було віддано.
    Приблизно о 10.30 24 серпня, під час параду в Києві, офіцери штабу Сектору Д на чолі з полковником Ромигайло П.Д. з передового командного пункту в лісопосадці на трасі Амвросіївка-Кутейникове спостерігали колону бронетехніки російської армії загальною чисельністю понад 100 одиниць, у складі бойових машин десанту, танків, самохідних артилерійських знарядь, а також великої кількості тентованих КАМАЗів з боєприпасами та особовим складом, які на великій швидкості рухались вглиб території України.
    Інформація про колону російської бронетехніки полковником Ромигайло П.Д. була негайно доведена до начальника штабу АТО генерала Назарова В.М. Відповідь: "Йдіть на х..! Боягузи! С вас посаджу!"
    Приблизно о 12.00 вказана інформація в телефонній розмові була доведена начальнику Генерального штабу Муженку В.М.
    У відповідь надійшла одна команда "Не сси! Це все херня! Ми все це проходили!".
    Ніякі рішення по доповідях прийняті не були.
    The major idea is: Supreme command comepletely ignored all evidences of large enemy reinforcements arriving to theatre of operations and therefore allowed crushing defeat to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    Rada's commission of inquiry report on Ilovaisk defeat, July-Aug.2014

    http://obozrevatel.com/crime/04295-o...j-dokument.htm



    The major idea is: Supreme command comepletely ignored all evidences of large enemy reinforcements arriving to theatre of operations and therefore allowed crushing defeat to happen.

    mirhond---care to comment and Putin just keeps on stating "
    no Russian troops in the Ukraine---come on mirhond you have got to get Putin to stop lying--maybe he will listen to you as we do not listen to you.

    BREAKING Video emerged of a #Russian army sergeant telling abt war in #Ukraine being there.
    https://twitter.com/InformNapalm/sta...39841930203136

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    I often use the term that Putin "is in an altered state of reality" and now some took offense--now it seems it is a standard phase in the blogging world.

    Lots of heads shaking in disbelief as Russia raises "Ukraine's non-compliance with Minsk" at OSCE--pushing alternate reality.

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    Valid point---does in fact the US government fully understand just what s ongoing in eastern Ukraine?

    Latest intel on increased RU forces in/near #Ukraine - SACEUR asks for more troops to counter, is Obama listening?
    http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...stern-ukraine/

    Putin escalating conflict #Russia sent 50 more tanks into #Ukraine yesterday.#Donetsk #Luhansk #Mariupol #Putinhulyo
    pic.twitter.com/YVGx6IYIyx

    The @OSCE mission on Russia's border has observed 14 fuel trucks bringing "aid" to #Ukraine http://www.osce.org/om/126266
    http://www.osce.org/om/126363


    US & Germany have refused Ukraine's "requests for military assistance... that might deter a new Russian offensive" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...way-at-ukraine
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    Someone else who does not support the idea of the Russian "NATO humiliation myths" Putin uses to justify his actions:

    WASHINGTON, Nov. 5, 2014 – Russia is "pushing on the limits of international order," the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said today.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russia in general are pushing the limits because they don’t believe the international order was crafted in a way that met their national interests, Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey said during a question-and-answer session at an event on hiring veterans in New York.

    Putin and Russia express a sense of victimization following the collapse of the Soviet Empire, the chairman said. Noting that the Russian president recently delivered a speech on that narrative, Dempsey characterized it as “an anti-Western soliloquy that literally lasted for about three hours."

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    kaur--it does now appear as if the revolution is eating it's children these days.

    He was here from day one and rumored to have been also involved in the Crimea before the eastern Ukraine.

    Maybe we need to check in with mirhond and ask him why the FSB killed him?

    +++ Breaking +++. Ukrainian Defense Ministry reported the murder of Igor Bezler (The Demon) http://tvrain.ru/articles/minoborony...ezlera-377744/


    https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/st...047872/photo/1
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    BREAKING Confirmed #Russian casualties on Nov 6. Putilovkiy forest, #Donetsk outskirts - 4 tanks, 3 BMPs, more than 150 KIA of regular army

    The brick factory in #Marinka has long been known as the base of #Russian terrorists.

    BREAKING Confirmed #Russian casualties on Nov 6. #Marinka, #Donetsk region - 1 tank, 3 BMPs, 4 APCs. Direct hit to a brick factory - 200 KIA

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