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    From the annexation of Crimea to the war in Donbas: the GRU curator of the DPR terrorists was identified:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/from-the...s-identified/#
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    Azor...something for you as this development has been ongoing for the last two years....

    Russia is Bringing Back Its World War II 'Shock Armies'
    https://lnkd.in/gen2AHv

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    ATO spox: As per UA mil intel, last week confirmed casualties of the enemy were 16 KIA and 27 WIA, as well as 1 destroyed Ural vehicle

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    U.S. soldier who fought with Russian-backed militants has been discharged from the Army
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.687cc67b2c89

    Previously posted this info.....

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    .@PavloKlimkin at #GLOBSEC2017: 'My advice to Moldova - just shut down the Russian TV channels that are spouting propaganda'.

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    Numbers-Stations.com @Spy_Stations

    New more 30 Russian military objects in occupied Crimea now on our map
    http://www.numbers-stations.com/mili...nnish-borders/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    .@PavloKlimkin at #GLOBSEC2017: 'My advice to Moldova - just shut down the Russian TV channels that are spouting propaganda'.
    Moldova kicks out 5 russian spies (diplomats).

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    MFA of Ukraine ����
    ✔ @MFA_Ukraine FM @PavloKlimkin: sealing the UA-RU border is key to stop inflow of Russian weapons, ammunition, troops and militants to #Donbas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    You still do not "get it"...the US Army does not even have a weak EW ability and yes the AF flies but it cannot constantly park aircraft over a ground manuever unit in order to provide a constant 24 X 7 EW protection...Finally believe me when I say there is none to a little EW ability inside a US BCT…Same goes for ground air defense abilities at low flying attack targets...is the Army going to wait for some USAF aircraft to arrive to down a Mi24???? The US military is not hiding anything as it got basically out of and rid of EW equipment, manning and officers in the 90s and that has remained that way since…Why is it so hard to envision that the US military is actually behind in something???? The F35 EW mission you so talk about is not for ground support but for SEAD....simple as that..there has been some talk about bringing back the A6s again for that mission set as they did in VN.....as the A6 is cheaper and can loiter longer. ARE you trying to sell me that a F35 will loiter for hours over ground troops?? Last time I checked the only loiter ac the AF has for that type of mission is the A10 but it is certainly not an EW ac...
    Outlaw,

    Firstly, I am not trying to sell you anything. What I am asserting however, is that the situation is perhaps not as dire as various analysts and commentators make it out to be. Here are some points to consider:

    • The Russian Army is effectively on its own and is not composed as a global expeditionary force. It is intended to operate without significant support from the other services and close to its supply lines. This is why the Russian Army will always place a premium on generating organic fires, air defense and EM warfare
    • The U.S. Army is intended for expeditionary purposes, making it lighter for ease of mobility
    • The U.S. Army also operates as part of a Joint Force and is reliant upon air superiority or supremacy by U.S. aviation (USAF and USMC)
    • The U.S. Army as a bureaucratic institution has been a major beneficiary of defense largesse during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and it is acting to find new missions to ensure funding


    For instance, the endless refrain about NATO assets in the European theater being unable to prevent or repel a Russian invasion in the Baltics without reinforcements and mobilization, is disingenuous. Even with 60% of U.S. forces committed to the Asia-Pacific theater, the USAF and USN assets can saturate Russian air defenses and other targets with cruise missiles from stand-off ranges before Riga falls i.e. well within the 60-hour window.

    The reports by RAND and Carnegie are thinly-veiled attempts to expand USAE and make it the primary instrument of conventional deterrence against Russia. Given that the Army’s primacy caused the F-22 production to be capped at under 200 aircraft, the gall is quite astounding.

    Secondly, as regards the role of U.S. aviation in EM warfare, this is part of the Third Offset. Have you considered EMW missiles eliminating threats ahead of the ground forces or EMW UAVs loitering overhead? The F-35 is not a like-for-like replacement but a new concept altogether. It may well prove to be a failure in practice, but conceptually, it is the future.

    Thirdly, I agree that the Army needs to be bolstered in key areas, but it also needs to be cut down to size.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    This is why there's growing European discussion of an extreme option to replace US commitments: a Euro nukes program
    No, Outlaw. You’re missing the real story here, which is that Germany is willing to pay some or most of the costs of maintaining the French nuclear deterrent in exchange for being covered by it, because this is less expensive than conventional deterrence i.e. spending 2% or more of GDP on defense.

    Every country is aware that nuclear deterrence is cheaper than conventional deterrence. Yet the idea of Germany controlling nuclear weapons will have the same reactions in many European countries as the idea of Japanese nuclear weapons would have on Southeast Asia.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Merkel's comment didn't come out of nowhere. Germans have spent months contemplating – and preparing for – a break with the US.

    One sr German official really stressed this: Our closest ally is not just going away, but may turn its power against us. Think about that.

    Their fear wasn't just that Trump would be an unreliable ally, but that his attacks on the EU and NATO would make the US a threat to Europe.

    The Germans really fear Europe will fall apart w/o the US. But they saw Trump as a potential threat to their most core national interests.

    They were quite open about their plan: appease Trump and proceed normally. But quietly prepare a Plan B in case that fails. We may be there.

    New NATO motto: Keep the Americans out, the Russians in, and the Germans up.
    Huh? Talk about the tail wagging the dog. This is utterly ludicrous. Europe will not accept Germany as its leader for obvious reasons and Germany is not about to break the Trans-Atlantic Alliance. However, the German government knows the anti-Americanism and “Progressive” values sell well in Germany, and are a convenient distraction to Germany backstopping the Euro, dealing with migrants, hollowing out the Bundeswehr, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Azor...something for you as this development has been ongoing for the last two years....

    Russia is Bringing Back Its World War II 'Shock Armies'
    Yeah, I’ve known about this since it was announced. A big yawn here.

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    Russia deploys troops from the 291st Artillery Brigade of the Russian Army to boost its invasion force in Donbas.
    http://uacrisis.org/56776-average
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 05-29-2017 at 07:20 PM.

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    50 enemy attacks by Russia's troops in Donbas result in 3 UAF WIA.
    Escalation in Luhansk sector.

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    Russian disinformation...it was the Moldavian government that kicked out five Russian officials for spying not so proEU group or agency....

    Moldovan president vows to "punish" pro-EU forces trying to "provoke" Kremlin with expulsion of Russian diplomats.
    http://tass.ru/pmef-2017/articles/4294067#

    Moldavian President has not said a single word on this matter...

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    “Russian Air Defense Officer Found Exactly Where Putin Said He Was Not” by @DFRLab
    https://medium.com/dfrlab/russian-ai...-61a5c359af02#

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    Ukraine has set an absolute record for the country in the export of malt -
    93 000 tonnes
    http://uprom.info/news/agro/ukrayina...sportu-solodu#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Outlaw,

    Firstly, I am not trying to sell you anything. What I am asserting however, is that the situation is perhaps not as dire as various analysts and commentators make it out to be. Here are some points to consider:

    • The Russian Army is effectively on its own and is not composed as a global expeditionary force. It is intended to operate without significant support from the other services and close to its supply lines. This is why the Russian Army will always place a premium on generating organic fires, air defense and EM warfare
    • The U.S. Army is intended for expeditionary purposes, making it lighter for ease of mobility
    • The U.S. Army also operates as part of a Joint Force and is reliant upon air superiority or supremacy by U.S. aviation (USAF and USMC)
    • The U.S. Army as a bureaucratic institution has been a major beneficiary of defense largesse during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and it is acting to find new missions to ensure funding


    For instance, the endless refrain about NATO assets in the European theater being unable to prevent or repel a Russian invasion in the Baltics without reinforcements and mobilization, is disingenuous. Even with 60% of U.S. forces committed to the Asia-Pacific theater, the USAF and USN assets can saturate Russian air defenses and other targets with cruise missiles from stand-off ranges before Riga falls i.e. well within the 60-hour window.

    The reports by RAND and Carnegie are thinly-veiled attempts to expand USAE and make it the primary instrument of conventional deterrence against Russia. Given that the Army’s primacy caused the F-22 production to be capped at under 200 aircraft, the gall is quite astounding.

    Secondly, as regards the role of U.S. aviation in EM warfare, this is part of the Third Offset. Have you considered EMW missiles eliminating threats ahead of the ground forces or EMW UAVs loitering overhead? The F-35 is not a like-for-like replacement but a new concept altogether. It may well prove to be a failure in practice, but conceptually, it is the future.

    Thirdly, I agree that the Army needs to be bolstered in key areas, but it also needs to be cut down to size.



    No, Outlaw. You’re missing the real story here, which is that Germany is willing to pay some or most of the costs of maintaining the French nuclear deterrent in exchange for being covered by it, because this is less expensive than conventional deterrence i.e. spending 2% or more of GDP on defense.

    Every country is aware that nuclear deterrence is cheaper than conventional deterrence. Yet the idea of Germany controlling nuclear weapons will have the same reactions in many European countries as the idea of Japanese nuclear weapons would have on Southeast Asia.



    Huh? Talk about the tail wagging the dog. This is utterly ludicrous. Europe will not accept Germany as its leader for obvious reasons and Germany is not about to break the Trans-Atlantic Alliance. However, the German government knows the anti-Americanism and “Progressive” values sell well in Germany, and are a convenient distraction to Germany backstopping the Euro, dealing with migrants, hollowing out the Bundeswehr, etc.

    Yeah, I’ve known about this since it was announced. A big yawn here.
    Russian Disinformation War Turns Into Physical Harassment Against @OSCE :
    http://youtu.be/h3HUC0myGck?a

    How Russian social media platforms have become a vehicle for some of the most heinous cyber attacks on Ukraine https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian...ty-1496055606#
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 05-31-2017 at 10:09 PM. Reason: Brevity and ToR

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    As for the Russo-Ukrainian War, it is "quieter" now than it was from November-February. There are no significant developments to report, as I follow the OSCE SMM and ISW.
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 05-31-2017 at 10:10 PM. Reason: Brevity

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    Stockholm court hands Ukraine victory over Gazprom’s “take or pay” claim: 5 things to#know
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2017/06/0...now/#arvlbdata

    This is HUGE: Ukraine's state-owned giant Naftogaz won against Russia's Gazprom in th Stockholm arbitration. We are talking abt $18 BLN here
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 06-05-2017 at 02:43 PM. Reason: Fix link

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    Will be making my final posting to this thread as nothing is really changing....the Russians just keep on attacking and the West ie Trump really has no intention on stopping Putin nor the aggression...

    We have seen that outside of Trumps inherent interest in lifting all sanctions on Russia for Crimea and his invasion of eastern Ukraine meaning he might in fact eventually lift them while we now see that what he says he will do he will do and we see the closeness to Russia being expressed by Trump....in some aspects every similar to the way Putin functions...

    Russian disinformation, hacking and propaganda efforts in their info war against the West actually against the US will still be posted and that will include any of these actions directed against Ukraine as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Will be making my final posting to this thread as nothing is really changing....the Russians just keep on attacking and the West ie Trump really has no intention on stopping Putin nor the aggression...

    We have seen that outside of Trumps inherent interest in lifting all sanctions on Russia for Crimea and his invasion of eastern Ukraine meaning he might in fact eventually lift them while we now see that what he says he will do he will do and we see the closeness to Russia being expressed by Trump....in some aspects every similar to the way Putin functions...

    Russian disinformation, hacking and propaganda efforts in their info war against the West actually against the US will still be posted and that will include any of these actions directed against Ukraine as well.
    The Russians do not "keep on attacking" Ukraine. The conflict is frozen with a low level of frontline violence, and an absence of major offensives or territorial changes. There are no significant developments to report in Ukraine, and have not been since Debaltseve. This situation will continue indefinitely and Ukraine's road to a just and transparent society as well as eventual membership in the EU, will be a very long one...

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    IMPORTANT FIND.....a completely new photo of the 332 Russian BUK that shot down MH17 popped up on social media and was achieved by @bellingcat.....photo was apparently taken near the shot down site

    BUT....Russian GRU find out.....

    IMPORTANT: social network account that hosted #BUK 2013 photo used in @bellingcat was just deleted. #MH17

    Russian soclal media and government media completely freaking out and attacking the phot as "fake news" MUCH in the Trump style...

    THIS is what they are trying to get you to accept...
    @bellingcat providently planted photoshopped evidence in 2013, to be needed 4 years later), on a Russian social network..then hoped it would remain there for four years in order to be suddenly "discovered".....

    Make sense to everyone of a sane mind????
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 06-05-2017 at 01:55 PM.

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