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    Default Russo-Ukraine War 2017 (January-April)

    Created for this seemingly never-ending war, even if some would prefer to forget. The last 2016 September-December thread had 1,196 posts and 39.7k views.
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    .@SenJohnMcCain speaking in #Mariupol about #Ukraine-#Russia war: "We will send the invaders back to where they came from"

    "I am here to argue for a dialogue that merges our futures," said Kissinger in Moscow in February 2016.

    MORE evidence Kissinger is trying to sell the US on the Putin proposal for an new Yalta 2.0 giving him complete influence in Europe and the ME...in exchange for really nothing at all back to the US...

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    129 Ukr soldiers lost their lives or health in #Putin's war in eastern #Ukraine in Dec 2016
    17 within the annual "Christmas Ceasefire"


    44 ceasefire violations at Donbas in the last day of 2016
    pic.twitter.com/j8Gjtf0LBh

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    Well worth reading this two year old article...still just as valid now in 2017....


    Putinism and the Anti-WEIRD Coalition
    https://20committee.com/2014/04/07/p...rd-coalition/#

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    Interestingly, we have slightly differing numbers.
    While Poroshenko said 211 KIA, you have 217 and I 225.
    Besides, I counted..

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    Azor.....reference some of your questions....

    Numbers source - ATO HQ reports, including only Ukrainian army regular soldiers, 1 attack could be "Half day non-stop fighting"
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    Default Moderator at work

    I am trying to keep the Ukraine at War thread focused on events within the war, with some other factors. So I have just moved six posts on Russian military activity and the speculation on the future of Belarus to here.
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    FIghting near #Adviivka yesterday
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqA16duzC6M#
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2017/7-febru...forces-attack#

    Day 1086: 1 Ukrainian Soldier Wounded, 1 Teenager Killed in Russia-Backed Shelling; Avdeyevka Struggles to Repair
    http://www.interpretermag.com/day-1086/#16083

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    The apparent assassination of leading "separatists" of the first generation...those entering with and working with Girkin continue to die in unexplained bomb attacks......

    DPR commander Mikhail Tolstoy, known as "Givi" was assassinated in #Donetsk this morning multiple pro Russian sources report

    Pro Russian sources say Givi was killed by a bomb explosion in his office

    Statement from #Zakharchenko blaming #Ukraine for Givi's death in 3..2..1..

    Here we go: #DPR chief Zaharchenko convenes emergency meeting on death of Givi
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2017/8-febru...ency-meeting#…

    The "Commander of Battalion Somalia" was killed in a "suicide attack", the "Operational Command of the People's Republic of Donetsk" says.

    I remember Zaharchenko vowing he will march to #Kiev after Motorola assassination. Expect smth similar. It only matters what Russia wants.

    Pro-Russian sources say Ukrainian terrorist, war criminal and world-class dancer Mikhail Tolstykh aka. "Givi" killed in Donetsk

    Yes, a stealth Ukro-DRG infiltrated in the Somali gang base with a RPO Shmel and made the perfect shot
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    "Assassination of Givi. Video from the terror scene."
    This is how GRU spins outcome of their operation. Laconically. Like a news like.

    Since start of Avdiivka clashes rumors that Givi wounded himself to avoid fighting+threats from fellow militants

    'Givi' is latest in long line of military separatist leaders to be killed. Ukraine's security service? Infighting? or someone else?
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    Another provocative shelling of apartment building in Donetsk:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/another-...ding-donetsk/#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    "Assassination of Givi. Video from the terror scene."
    This is how GRU spins outcome of their operation. Laconically. Like a news like.

    Since start of Avdiivka clashes rumors that Givi wounded himself to avoid fighting+threats from fellow militants

    'Givi' is latest in long line of military separatist leaders to be killed. Ukraine's security service? Infighting? or someone else?
    Givi before the war as a grocery store security guard. Got sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The apparent assassination of leading "separatists" of the first generation...those entering with and working with Girkin continue to die in unexplained bomb attacks......

    DPR commander Mikhail Tolstoy, known as "Givi" was assassinated in #Donetsk this morning multiple pro Russian sources report

    Pro Russian sources say Givi was killed by a bomb explosion in his office

    Statement from #Zakharchenko blaming #Ukraine for Givi's death in 3..2..1..

    Here we go: #DPR chief Zaharchenko convenes emergency meeting on death of Givi
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2017/8-febru...ency-meeting#…

    The "Commander of Battalion Somalia" was killed in a "suicide attack", the "Operational Command of the People's Republic of Donetsk" says.

    I remember Zaharchenko vowing he will march to #Kiev after Motorola assassination. Expect smth similar. It only matters what Russia wants.

    Pro-Russian sources say Ukrainian terrorist, war criminal and world-class dancer Mikhail Tolstykh aka. "Givi" killed in Donetsk

    Yes, a stealth Ukro-DRG infiltrated in the Somali gang base with a RPO Shmel and made the perfect shot
    Good riddance. Givi was a piece of trash war criminal who abused and killed POWs and desecrated corpses. He and Motorola are enjoying good company in Hell.

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    Ex DNR speaker Purgin says Givi's murder will inflame war. Similar threats made after Motorola's death proved empty
    https://tvrain.ru/teleshow/here_and_...entsa-427200/#

    Was in fact a thermobaric RPG round....that exploded in his office.....office was completely burnt out....shades of GRU Spetsnaz history.....

    Givi's assassination brought to daylight atrocities #Russian SOF did during 2004 Beslan school siege - morons used thermobaric warheads!
    186 children killed by burning....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The apparent assassination of leading "separatists" of the first generation...those entering with and working with Girkin continue to die in unexplained bomb attacks......

    DPR commander Mikhail Tolstoy, known as "Givi" was assassinated in #Donetsk this morning multiple pro Russian sources report

    Pro Russian sources say Givi was killed by a bomb explosion in his office

    Statement from #Zakharchenko blaming #Ukraine for Givi's death in 3..2..1..

    Here we go: #DPR chief Zaharchenko convenes emergency meeting on death of Givi
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2017/8-febru...ency-meeting#…

    The "Commander of Battalion Somalia" was killed in a "suicide attack", the "Operational Command of the People's Republic of Donetsk" says.

    I remember Zaharchenko vowing he will march to #Kiev after Motorola assassination. Expect smth similar. It only matters what Russia wants.

    Pro-Russian sources say Ukrainian terrorist, war criminal and world-class dancer Mikhail Tolstykh aka. "Givi" killed in Donetsk

    Yes, a stealth Ukro-DRG infiltrated in the Somali gang base with a RPO Shmel and made the perfect shot
    Do you think that it was a suicide attack or a hit-and-run?

    The damage seems to indicate that the RPG was launched from outside the building rather than detonated at point blank range.

    Could it be yet another instance of Russia "tidying up" which the DNR is blaming on Ukraine?

    Thoughts?

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    Russia's occupation forces lob 300 shells near #Avdiyivka. Power lines hit & water supply halted.

    73 attacks, 1 civil volunteer perished, 4 soldiers wounded in action
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    .@USEmbassyKyiv slams #Russia recognition of DNR, LNR documents.
    http://bigstory.ap.org/3b4d482383304...ccc77103d5b98#

    Stronger message if came from State Dept or WH.

    BUT total silence from either DoS and or WH.....

    No apparent US FP as of yet....

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    Clashes in #Kiev between security forces and men in camouflage demanding trade stop with occupied areas in eastern #Ukraine

    Security forces arrested multiple persons. Medics say also multiple wounded.

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    Hours before new #cease-fire attempt in #Donbas, omens look bad
    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...look-bad.html#

    17:07 #Donetsk @Urriarachentsev #Staromykhaylivka: they start to boom bit by bit. Panes clink, floor jumps

    105 attacks on UAF positions on February 18. Grads used in #Mariuol direction. 6 Ukrainian servicemen WIA. - ATO HQ

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    Senate Intel Committee tells Trump administration to "preserve records" related to Russia

    Now it starts......

    A week before Flynn resigned, plans were delivered to him outlining a way for Trump to lift Russian sanctions
    http://nyti.ms/2lwGYUg

    IT appears in this NYTs article all those that have been previously mentioned in the Steele dossier that the Trump WH and Trump declared to have been a total fake....

    BUT this week IC confirmed portions of that report to have been very valid and true...

    NOTICE...this is extremely now interesting about this so called back channel and Ukrainians are paying close attention to who was part of this so called back channel.....

    Bizarre tale of Trump associates joining forces with obscure Ukrainian lawmaker to attack Poroshenko and aid Russia.

    AND there are no Russian connections on this????

    Ukrainian and some initial European comments are now coming in on this NYTs article
    While Pence shakes Poroshenko's hand at MSC....

    Trump is plotting a Russia-backed "peace plan" to oust him....

    So this was the basis for the Trump and Bannon "grand bargain".....

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