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    Brit Christopher Steele is an American hero: worked w/o pay, tried to get US to investigate Trump-Russia. But FBI was on crusade vs Clinton

    WHY is that? ESPECIALLY when the FBI is tasked to defend the US from enemies near and far INSIDE the US...it must be impartial BUT the NYC FBI office is a known anti Clinton hot bed or activity when this all came from to begin with.....tied to a Giuliani who was in that center for a number of years and who first leaked that something was going to happen in the next few days but he did not say what it was...now we know...the question is who did he hear it from????

    JUST as his recorded comments indicated he knew of the coming WL dump of the Podesta emails as well....BUT WAIT...WL's is a Russian media outlet these days.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Trump and his transition team are so wrapped up in trying to not be connected to Russia even though they are deeply tied to Putin...

    EXAMPLE
    Former JSC chief of intel and former DIA Director Flynn gets caught calling the US Russian Ambassador FIVE times on the day of the US sanctions against Russia supposedly wishing him a "Merry Christmas"...BUT added in the Spice comment was "he was working to get a meeting between Putin and Trump scheduled" and from the tone of the comment ..that was to be ...soonest....

    THEN it was said Flynn had been calling the Ambassador multiple other times as well.....HOPEFULLY Flynn has kept his SSO informed of those contacts as required with Russian counterparts?

    THEN we now have this from late yesterday.....


    NOW is the interesting point...Spice first indicated the calls to the Russian ambassador were of a harmless nature...Merry Christmas and oh by the way we would like to meet with Putin......

    THEN the so called Trump transition leak to the UK press with actually solid planned details...UK press is under a strict liable law system thus they rarely leak without solid information.....

    SO the very first FP meeting was to be with Putin AS it tied nicely back into the Trump press conference where he wanted to lift Russian sanctions if the Russians were of a "friendly nature" BUT notice Trump did not set the bar other than being "friendly and oh by the way help me fight IS"....

    BUT Trump did not get the outgoing SecDef memo about Russia not contributing a single thing to the IS fight in Syria....

    So Trump was expecting in Iceland a Putin vague verbal statement supporting him in the fight against IS and maybe a vague statement on nuclear weapons reductions THEN Trump would have lifted sanctions as he stated he would do in his press conference.....

    WYSIWYG concept with Trump...I have said that from the beginning of this thread and we finally now see it coming together....naturally with Trump's very own help via Twitter...
    Reference the 100% lies of the UK press ...as stated by the Trump spokesperson ......

    Sunday Times: "Trump wants Putin summit in Reykjavik." UK apprehension abt team Trump is the sanest thing I've heard
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ne...vik-rc909n9t0#

    Michael McFaul

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    Trump needs to focus first on allies not Russia. My take: Our allies are afraid. Here’s how Trump can reassure them.
    http://wpo.st/m3iR2

    John Schindler

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    We established our country, with so much blood, to be free from foreign meddling. We paid more blood 1861-65. Don't surrender to Putin now.

    Never apologize for standing up for freedom from foreign meddling.

    There is, quite literally, nothing more genuinely American.

    I lead a pretty charmed life, why deny?

    Took my lumps defending this country.

    This means I can say whatever I like.

    And....I do.

    PS Traitors deserve a bullet.

    We are in the middle of a "political war" right now that was not being fought well by Obama and it is now even worse by an incoming US President who is bound and determined to undermine that even further for WHAT reasons.... outside of money and sex.....and his image of himself....
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    While US media snoozed, Financial Times did report on how dirty money flowed into Trump

    WHY is it that Steele is a Brit...the FT is Brit and some of the best social media Trump black money flows OSINT analysis are coming from EU and UK????

    WHERE is the US MSM in all of this...and they are American supposedly....
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    The New Yorker

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    If Trump doesn’t take the prophylactic approach to his conflicts, impeachment may be the only other remedy:
    http://nyer.cm/do3waOc

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    British intelligence asks for guarantees that its spies in Russia will remain anonymous under the Trump administration. Source: Sunday Times
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    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 13
    Totally made up facts by sleazebag political operatives, both Democrats and Republicans - FAKE NEWS! Russia says nothing exists. Probably...

    Crying #fakenews has become just another tactic to avoid a fact-based argument, writes @lenoretaylor
    http://bit.ly/2imwYNc

    BTW...the use of the single word...Probably....... at the end of his tweet is either an after thought that there is in fact truth out there OR.....

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    AFP news agency

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    #BREAKING France says 'serious consequences' if US embassy moves to Jerusalem

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    While Trump screams about *a* dossier, intel agencies around the world are sharing *many* dossiers about his dirt.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenk...o21#.tuE7bPWO#
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    Michael McFaul

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    Since Reagan-Gorbachev analogies being invoked today, reposting my take on why Trump is not Reagan on foreign policy
    http://wpo.st/E2iR2

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    It's good, #Europe begins to understand.
    Sadly 2 months after we lost the #US to the Kremlin.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...tish-9625116#…
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    "Of course not," Mike Pence tells @FoxNewsSunday about contacts between campaign & Russia. "This is all a distraction" the public sees thru.

    The GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee, however, does not see thru it and will instead investigate, with subpoenas if necessary.

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    Esquire
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    EXCLUSIVE: The Trump administration may evict the press from the White House
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...white-house/#…

    .@seanspicer says it's about "logistics " & numbers. Another transition official quoted calling press "the opposition party"

    Our forefathers fought and died for freedom of press. To have Trump supporting American voters cheer its downfall is disturbing.

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    At Paris meeting, major powers to warn Trump over Middle East peace

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-isr...-idUKKBN14Y0SF


    Major powers will signal to U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Sunday that a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians is the only solution, with France warning him that plans to move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem could derail peace efforts.

    Some 70 countries, including key European and Arab states as well as the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, are in Paris for a meeting that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected as "futile". Neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians will be represented.

    But, just five days before Trump is sworn in, the conference provides a platform for countries to send a strong signal to the incoming American president.

    Trump has pledged to pursue more pro-Israeli policies and move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv, where it has been for 68 years, to Jerusalem, all but enshrining the city as Israel's capital despite international objections.

    Calling it a provocation, France's Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said the move would have serious consequences on the ground.

    "One cannot have such a clear-cut, unilateral position. You have to create the conditions for peace," he told France 3 television.

    Paris has said the meeting will not impose anything on Israel or the Palestinians and that only direct negotiations can resolve the conflict.
    A draft communique seen by Reuters reaffirms existing international resolutions, urges both sides to restate their commitment to the two-state solution and disavow officials who reject it. The communique asks the protagonists to "refrain from unilateral steps that prejudge the outcome of final status negotiations".

    LOW POINT
    Diplomats said the communique could be toughened up with an allusion to Trump's plans for Jerusalem and whether to have a follow-up to the French initiative intensely debated.

    "This conference is among the last twitches of the world of yesterday," Netanyahu told a cabinet meeting on Sunday. "Tomorrow will look different and that tomorrow is very close."

    Relations between the United States and Israel have soured during President Barack Obama's administration, reaching a low point late last month when Washington declined to veto a U.N. resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlements in occupied territory.

    Obama's secretary of state, John Kerry, said the settlement programme threatened Middle East peace and the two-state solution.

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    France's Ayrault says Trump Jerusalem proposal provocation
    Palestinian President Authority Mahmoud Abbas said on Saturday that he had told Trump that a move to Jerusalem would kill off the peace process and strip the U.S. of its role as honest broker - and could lead to the Palestinians going back on their recognition of Israel.

    Home to Europe's largest Muslim and Jewish communities, France has tried to breathe new life into the peace process over the past year. It believes that, with the uncertainty surrounding how the next U.S. administration will handle the issue, it is important to push the sides back to talks rather than allowing a fragile status quo to fester.

    But with elections coming up this year in France and Germany, and Britain appearing to align itself more closely with the Trump administration on the issue, the prospects of the European Union, the largest economic partner for both Israel and the Palestinians, taking a lead on the matter appear unlikely.

    Arab states also have concerns about how Trump's relationship with them will turn out, and have taken a cautious line.

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    IC has temporarily cut intel off from allies when their govts got too cuddly w/our enemies.

    Nobody ever thought they'd have to cut off DC.
    When jihadist attacks against the West start rising, thank President Trump for breaking the Western intelligence alliance to placate Putin.

    Outgoing CIA boss says Trump does not understand Russia's intentions and capabilities.
    http://news.sky.com/story/cia-boss-s...ssia-10730196#

    UPDATE:White House Reviewing #DworkinReport On #Trump's #Russian Ties
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...=1478882710090
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    Estonian media cites #Czech media outlet Respekt claiming no records of COEHN's directly entering the country. http://maailm.postimees.ee/3975493/e...8.1484472964#…

    COHEN might've used 3 options:
    1.False passport
    2.Diplomatic passport
    3.Different country of arrival & destination

    but what everyone forget: Cohen has also Israeli citizenship. He could travel with that passport...

    BUT WAIT.....who owns the Estonian newspaper who stated Cohen did not travel to Prague.....

    Kosachev, who allegedly didn't meet Trump's lawyer COHEN, who never in life have frequently visit Prague, was head of Rossotrudnichestvo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
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    EXCLUSIVE: The Trump administration may evict the press from the White House
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...white-house/#…

    .@seanspicer says it's about "logistics " & numbers. Another transition official quoted calling press "the opposition party"

    Our forefathers fought and died for freedom of press. To have Trump supporting American voters cheer its downfall is disturbing.
    So is now Trump destroying the core of the US democracy????

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference the 100% lies of the UK press ...as stated by the Trump spokesperson ......

    Sunday Times: "Trump wants Putin summit in Reykjavik." UK apprehension abt team Trump is the sanest thing I've heard
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ne...vik-rc909n9t0#

    Michael McFaul

    @McFaul
    Trump needs to focus first on allies not Russia. My take: Our allies are afraid. Here’s how Trump can reassure them.
    http://wpo.st/m3iR2

    John Schindler

    @20committee
    We established our country, with so much blood, to be free from foreign meddling. We paid more blood 1861-65. Don't surrender to Putin now.

    Never apologize for standing up for freedom from foreign meddling.

    There is, quite literally, nothing more genuinely American.

    I lead a pretty charmed life, why deny?

    Took my lumps defending this country.

    This means I can say whatever I like.

    And....I do.

    PS Traitors deserve a bullet.

    We are in the middle of a "political war" right now that was not being fought well by Obama and it is now even worse by an incoming US President who is bound and determined to undermine that even further for WHAT reasons.... outside of money and sex.....and his image of himself....
    Trump spokesperson Spicer stated the UK article about Trump meeting Putin was 100% lies....

    BUT WAIT.....now comes Russian state TV media and their comments....

    Interesting, since #Russia's state-sponsored TV says #Trump & #Putin are getting ready for a meeting.
    @FoxNews @seanspicer @realDonaldTrump
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    So is now Trump destroying the core of the US democracy????
    "They are the opposition party," a senior official says about the *press*.

    No, America, this is NOT normal.


    AP Politics

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    CIA director says Trump tweeting harms security:

    http://apne.ws/2jTe3K9
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    Putin is clearly confident that #Trump will upend all U.S. sanctions against #Russia, hence no need to retaliate.http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/53678#…

    BUT WAIT...........
    Pence DOES NOT answer Qs on CBS on whether Trump Admin wants Russia out of Eastern Ukraine/Crimea: "He’ll work through these issues, John."
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    From Post 483 by Outlaw09 in part:
    While US media snoozed, Financial Times did report on how dirty money flowed into Trump.

    WHY is it that Steele is a Brit...the FT is Brit and some of the best social media Trump black money flows OSINT analysis are coming from EU and UK????
    Yes Mr Steele is a British national, who served in MI6 / SIS, an intelligence agency that like the other British agencies has exceptionally close links to it's American "cousins" (although GCHQ is reportedly even closer to the NSA it's "cousin"). Could his loyalties and networking in the private sector serve more than one paymaster and other "interested parties"? Yes, quite clearly.

    Secondly until July 2015 the FT newspaper and other electronic options were owned by the UK-based Pearson Group, but it was then sold to Nikkei, a Japanese media company. A compnay that has a mixed reputation according to this, almost funny now, Russian author:https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...as-a-new-owner

    Pearson Group also sold its 50% share in The Economist to the Agnelli family, from Italy where their interests include Fiat. The Pearson Group has largely UK-based corporate owners.

    It is a moot point if in 2017 the FT reflects a distinct British flavour, let alone reports in the UK's national interest. More likely the international corporate financiers IMHO.

    From Post 485 by Outlaow09 cited in part:
    British intelligence asks for guarantees that its spies in Russia will remain anonymous under the Trump administration. Source: Sunday Times.
    That is quite simply "spin" and may originate from within the agencies or Whitehall-Westminster. There is IMHO the widely held belief that any spy (HUMINT source), would not, except when jointly run, reveal the true identity of a spy anywhere. The information reports gained, well that is quite different and we know that sometimes the "jigsaw" can be assembled to identify a spy.
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