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    Appears the ongoing blockade of the trade between Russian occupied Donbas and Ukraine being driven by volunteer units is actually starting to effectively damage the Russian occupied zones...might actually end the Russian control faster than anything else...as it has been also reported it is costing Russian billions of Rubles monthly to support the Donbas....

    Their treat to seize Ukrainian enterprises is a farce as they have seized......completely dismantled and sent to Russia already a high number of those enterprises....

    Evidently it is hurting the personal pockets of the Russian zone leaders...

    Militants demand to lift #Donbas #blockade, threatening to seize #Ukrainian enterprises
    http://112.international/conflict-in...es-14539.html#

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    Сontract soldier from Tskhinvali military base in Cheburashka illegal armed group:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/sontract...-armed-group/#

    10:38 #Novoazovsk @rjpthju5rjpthju [forum] Since early morning heavy outgoing rounds of RU heavy artillery are heard

    Feb26 #Vodyane (Mariupol): 20yo Slovyansk resident marine Roman Hapryahlo killed by a sniper
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...0008363471672#
    http://www.dotb.dn.ua/2017/02/pid-ko...-slov-yanska/#
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    Artemenko (Crimea plan to Trump): the USSR in 1954 gave Crimea to Ukraine to not America get it
    Has someone a straitjacket

    Not surprisingly Russian 2014 Ukraine scenario was part of bigger land grab game, aimed at Moldova too
    https://deschide.md/en/news/politica...n-Moldova.htm#
    Moldovan paper on Vladimir Popov's operation in the country in 2014. (Eng)

    Russia to deploy Buk missiles in occupied Crimea
    https://www.unian.info/war/1797251-r...d-crimea.html#
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    The 1st week of the Russian themselves proposed "#MSC2017 Ceasefire" for eastern #Ukraine ended with 41 Ukrainian casualties.
    3 KIA
    38 WIA
    Another Russian failure to fulfill what they claimed they would do....
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    Ram, a fighter of Ukrainian 79th Brigade, returned to the front after a vacation.

    Bomb dog and a recce surveillance spotting dog....his third front tour...
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    Militants threw grenades at OSCE monitors and Ukrainian JCCC representatives came under mortar fire.
    http://novosti.dn.ua/news/267302

    Massive violation of Minsk 2 and they would not be doing this without Russian approval....especially mortar fire on JCCC members which includes Russian officers...

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    The Ukrainian MP who pushed the proRussian Ukraine peace plan to Flynn/Trump WH...is getting stranger and stranger these days.....

    "New California": Ukrainian MP Artemenko says U.S. could claim Crimea
    https://www.unian.info/politics/1797...m-crimea.html#

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    Yanukovych says Maidan crackdown orchestrated by Firtash, Lyovochkin
    https://www.unian.info/politics/1797...n.html#…
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    Russian MoD General admits to Russian military hacking and propaganda efforts in the West....
    https://jamestown.org/program/defens...victory-syria/

    Defense Minister Shoigu Promotes Russian Cyber Warfare Troops and Declares Victory in Syria

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 23
    By: Pavel Felgenhauer
    February 23, 2017 05:16 PM Age: 4 days

    Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu used the shortened workweek before Red Army Day (February 23—officially rechristened “Defender of the Fatherland Day,” following the collapse of the Soviet Union) to promote Russia’s military successes. Dressed in an army general’s uniform decorated with military ribbons, Shoigu addressed an all-Russia youth forum in Moscow on February 21. The following day, Shoigu, again in military uniform and backed by his top brass army generals, addressed the State Duma. In previous years, Shoigu as well as his predecessors addressed plenary sessions of the Duma behind closed doors; those proceedings were always declared state secrets, and deputies were instructed not to disclose anything to journalists. But this week, Shoigu’s address and question time in front of Russian legislators were open to the press and streamed live on the Internet by the Ministry of Defense.
    Speaking before the youth forum, Shoigu asserted that Russia has achieved a resounding military-political victory in Syria by defeating the opposition, which was armed by the United States and its allies. He added that the wave of so-called “colored” pro-democracy revolutions, allegedly sponsored by the West, has been decisively crushed and reversed by heroic Russian soldiers fighting in Syria. Yugoslavia, Georgia, Iraq, Ukraine and Libya have been the victims of Western-sponsored pro-democracy “colored revolution” insurgencies, according to Shoigu. He asserted that while opposition fighters and mercenaries in Syria have been receiving arms and munitions from abroad, Russian weapons and soldiers have stabilized the situation by supporting the legitimate government in Damascus (Militarynews.ru, February 21).
    In his speech before the Duma, the defense minister declared the mission in Syria accomplished: The possible overthrow of the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been thwarted, and the Syrian civil war was effectively stopped after the “liberation” of Aleppo. The Syrian opposition is being separated from the radicals—something the Western powers, according to Shoigu, could not achieve. Russian naval and air bases in Syria have been secured and will continue to operate indefinitely “to keep the strategic balance in the region and prevent the spread of terrorism.” Russia massively used new weapons systems in Syria; and some 86 percent of all Russian air force pilots, according to Shoigu, carried out combat tours in Syria “to gain experience.” Russian special forces and military police battalions “have demonstrated their high efficiency” in Syria (Mil.ru, February 22).
    Replying to questions from Duma members, Shoigu disclosed that, four years ago, Russia secretly created an “information warfare directorate” within the defense ministry—in effect a new branch of the military that will be engaged in cyber warfare “counterpropaganda.” Apparently, this will involve hacking into databases and Internet trolling. Duma deputies seemed surprised when Shoigu publicly disclosed this previously secret information. Colonel General Vladimir Shamanov, a former chief of the Airborne Troops (VDV) and the current Duma defense committee chair, told journalists these new troops will “protect [Russia’s] national defense interests and engage in information warfare,” including cyber warfare (Militarynews.ru, February 22). Retired Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, the former head of the defense ministry’s international cooperation department, insists Russia should be more aggressive in information warfare “to open up concealed Western data in the US and in Germany to expose their lies” (Militarynews.ru, February 22). The hacking of e-mail accounts to dump their contents into the public domain could seem to fit the Russian understanding of “information warfare.”
    Shoigu also announced that newly formed army divisions are being deployed in the west, south, north and on the Kurile Islands. A two-divisional air defense command is being deployed in the Arctic: one division covering the Barents Sea region and the other—from Novaya Zemlya Archipelago to Alaska (Militarynews.ru, February 20). Shoigu further noted than an additional division is being deployed in the Kuriles. In fact an entire army corps is reportedly being deployed in the Kuriles: a division and several separate brigades, combining army, anti-aircraft and long-range anti-ship missile units. This corps must defend the entire Kurile Island chain, including the presently uninhabited northern islands—not only the southern ones claimed by Japan—against a possible enemy (US and Japan) assault (Mk.ru, February 23). The Kurile corps must deny enemy air and sea assets from penetrating the Sea of Okhotsk—thus turning this body of water into a fortress from which Russian nuclear strategic submarines based in Kamchatka may target the continental United States. The Kurile defenses are part of a larger Pacific defense rim from the Bering Strait to Vladivostok. Last August, Shoigu announced the creation of such a defensive rim, which will also include the deployment of a coastguard division on the Chukotka Peninsula, facing Alaska. Using long-range anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles, this division will be tasked with denying the US access to the Arctic through the Bering Strait (Mil.ru, August 23, 2016).
    Finally, Shoigu announced to Duma lawmakers, on February 22, that—to enhance Russian patriotism—the Ministry of Defense was building a replica of the Bundestag (German lower chamber of parliament, in Berlin) in the ministry-run “Patriot” team park, close to Moscow. Members of the defense ministry–sponsored youth movement Yunarmya (Youth Army) will be able to storm this replica of the Bundestag to exercise, according to Shoigu. The storming by Russian troops of the Bundestag in 1945 symbolized the defeat of Nazi Germany. The Duma unanimously voted on a resolution to approve Shoigu’s job performance as defense minister (Kommersant, February 22).
    Shoigu—unlike most of President Vladimir Putin’s other ministers—has the instincts of a true politician, as demonstrated by this week’s public, self-promotional saber-rattling performances. The immediate objective seems obvious: to secure Putin’s long-term commitment to allocate sufficient funds to continue the military’s massive rearmament program, which is being challenged by the finance ministry wishing to cut defense spending. Some 58 percent of weapons in the immediate battle-ready units of the Armed Forces are today considered modern, and a massive rearmament is underway. In 2017, some 1.4 trillion rubles ($30 billion) have been allocated for arms procurement (Interfax, February 21). But at stake is the overall scope of the rearmament program from 2018 to 2025, which must be approved by next July. Last September, an open conflict was reported between Shoigu and Finance Minister Anatoly Syluanov: Shoigu demanded some 22 trillion rubles ($400 billion) for rearmament, while Syluanov announced he had only 12 trillion ($218 billion) (Kommersant, September 17). On February 23, Putin announced the rearmament program is a topmost priority “to defend against aggression” (Kremlin.ru, February 23). Shoigu seems to be winning

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    MFA Russia
    ✔ @mfa_russia #FakeNews! @FinancialTimes article contains false information

    http://www.mid.ru/en/nedostovernie-p...ent/id/2659041

    NOTICE that the Russian FM did talk about the subject of EU paying for Russian damages........JUST the amount was wrong?????

    NOT WHAT the EU has said was stated in the meeting by the Russians......
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    13 Ukraine-based IT companies enter list of world’s top IT outsourcers http://bit.ly/2ltPYcq

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    Russian military intelligence (via Kots) and Russian DPR militia are up to something: 1st March

    Глава ДНР: 1 марта можно назвать днем "Прощай, Украина" Заявление по поводу блокады Украины республиками

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    Russian attacks have killed two Ukrainian troops. Russia is using heavy armour at the Svitlodarsk bulge.
    http://uacrisis.org/53063-lisenko-34

    My latest dispatch for @CBCNews from the war in #Ukraine with thoughts from @MarkGaleotti @AlexKokcharov
    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/av...orys-1.3997731
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    Groysman: "Coal blockade" can't be used to blackmail, put pressure on Ukraine
    https://www.unian.info/economics/179...-ukraine.html#

    In the past where there were coal shortages Ukraine turned to South African coal at far cheaper prices....

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    Russian FM has been hitting the vodka heavily again .......

    MFA Russia

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    #Karasin: We would like everyone to remember our position: Abkhazia, South Ossetia are independent sovereign states
    http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/...nt/id/2660070#

    THEY might be "sovereign' BUT no one recognizes them for some strange reason?????

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    AGIAN Russia plays the "we will escalate game" ...BUT WAIT...it has worn out that concept long ago with their steady escalations in fighting....

    AND UAF is holding their own well so it is just a worn out slogan ............

    Russia says "new tragedies" possible if U.S. supplies lethal aid to Ukraine
    https://www.unian.info/politics/1799...-ukraine.html#


    Actually what is unsaid is that if lethal aid in the form of advanced ATGMs arrives the Russian tank advantage of 700 plus suddenly and surely disappears is what they really mean....

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    Since 2014 about 20,000 #CrimeanTatars (out of 250,000 total) left #Crimea due to discrimination by #Russia:

    https://www.unian.net/society/179663...djemilev.html#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    I saw a few days ago on liveuamap.com, a report that a Ukrainian ATGM had taken out a (pro)Russian BMP. Unfortunately, the YouTube video was inaccessible. Do you have anything on this?
    Azor...this just popped up on your question above....

    New @DFRLab #MinskMonitor provides a step-by-step guide on geolocating this video of a Ukrainian ATGM near #Donetsk
    https://medium.com/@DFRLab/geolocati...-56c56597218e#

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    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.de/....html?spref=tw

    Tuesday, February 28, 2017

    Moscow Deploys the Most Dangerous Kind of Disinformation Against Ukraine

    Paul Goble

    Staunton, February 28 – Lies are one thing; disinformation quite another, as the late Nathalie Grant warned decades ago. The first can muddy the waters but are typically quickly exposed by anyone who examines them. They have a far greater and long lasting influence because the lies are wrapped in facts.

    Indeed, one could say that the flood of lies is nothing but a means to make disinformation more effective because those who recognize these falsehoods may deceive themselves when it comes to more carefully constructed narratives of disinformation which are accepted because so many parts of them are true.

    Consequently, identifying such disinformation and carefully sifting the lies it contains that are surrounded by facts is a far more important but also far more difficult task than simply unmasking lies. The latter may make those who do it feel better; but only the former can protest us against those who deploy disinformation skillfully.

    That makes a new article by US-based Russian journalist Kseniya Kirillova especially important. Indeed, in many ways, it is a model of the challenge the world faces in dealing with Russian disinformation and the care that needs to be exercised in exposing and thus countering it (ru.krymr.com/a/28334404.html).

    Last week, she notes, the Ukrainian media was filled with stories that Ukrainian defense plants were selling military equipment to Russia.# The reports cited the conclusions of the distinguished Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) and even appeared plausible given that Ukrainian plants had supplied Russian ones before 2014.

    Such stories have two target audiences: Ukrainians who might conclude that their elites were betraying them and their country out of greed, and Europeans who might conclude that there was no reason to defend Ukraine or maintain sanctions on Russia for its invasion if the Ukrainians weren’t willing to prevent such sales.

    But the stories, however plausible and apparently fact-based they appeared to be, were entirely false. Indeed, as experts at the Kyiv Center for Research on the Army, Conversion and Disarmament point out, those behind this disinformation did not report accurately even about what SIPRI did say.

    Mikhail Samus, deputy head of the center, notes that “it is important to understand that SIPRI did not publish precisely the information” these stories contained. Instead, the stories were based on its own collective summaries of materials rather than on the actual evidence the Stockholm institute gathered.

    For journalists who choose to rely on the summaries rather than on the report itself, the stories placed in the Ukrainian media appear accurate, whereas those who examine the SIPRI study will see that such conclusions are not only inaccurate but designed to hide what SIPRI did highlight in its latest report: Russian arms shipments to its forces in the Donbass and Crimea.

    And one Ukrainian journalist, Aleksandr Demchenko, adds that the way in which SIPRI presented the data it has on Ukrainian arms sales further confused the situation. The Swedish center based its findings not on data from the last year but rather for a five-year-period, from 2012 to 2016, which includes a time when Ukrainian firms did supply Russian ones.

    Moscow is only too pleased to use such “inaccuracies” to discredit Ukraine in Europe and to hide its own illegal supply of weapons to its own forces and clients in the Donbass and to Russian-occupied Crimea. By pushing the inaccurate story of Ukrainian arms sales at the same time and with the same sources, Moscow at least in part has achieved its goals.

    Exposing this kind of thing, as Kirillova has done here, is far more difficult and time-consuming that simply pointing to lies, but it is also far more important. And as she notes, “this isn’t the first such case” since Russia invaded Ukraine; and it certainly won’t be the last either there or elsewhere.

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    Steve Rosenberg‏
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    This pro-Kremlin Russian paper leaves little doubt that it was Russian "Special Operations Forces" who were sent into Crimea 3 years ago.

    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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