Discussion: Integrating Counterinsurgency into Army Professional Education

[Ken White]

Long overdue and hopefully will be heeded. This is particularly important:

"As a corollary, TRADOC requires a single integrator for counterinsurgency. Such an integrator would synchronize the efforts of disparate COIN/IW related organizations, allowing a more coherent approach to counterinsurgency and stability tasks."

Unfortunately, while I -- and many others- will agree with you (and not only with regard to COIN; many common areas cry for such a rationalization) my fear based on earlier experience at attempts to rationalize core instructional modules across the Branch Schools is that parochialism rules and the 'not invented here syndrome' will defeat the excellent suggestion. Sadly...

[Cavguy]

Long overdue and hopefully will be heeded. This is particularly important:Unfortunately, while I -- and many others- will agree with you (and not only with regard to COIN; many common areas cry for such a rationalization) my fear based on earlier experience at attempts to rationalize core instructional modules across the Branch Schools is that parochialism rules and the 'not invented here syndrome' will defeat the excellent suggestion. Sadly...

I sent the paper to some key individuals, perhaps it will actually get read in the Army before tossed in the recycle bin. The good news is the editor of a major military professional magazine contacted me and wants a modified version of the topic for an upcoming issue. I know the paper is a bit "inside baseball" for general consumption, but that was the point ...

My point was not that instruction isn't happening at all, there is just no rhyme, reason, consistency, or rigor to it.

[William F. Owen]

Good paper. Well done.

It does suggest a logical and coherent solution to the problem the US Army has created for itself.
However is part of the problem the very variable understanding the US Army actually has of something the US Army has chosen to call COIN?

I cannot tell Neil he is wrong, (nor would wish to) because the problem he faces is one he sees. However, there may be some merit in questioning the start position from which the whole US Army is starting.

Why teach FM3-24, when it may actually be setting you up for bigger issues/problems later on? Education is very distinct from training in most true professions.

[Hacksaw]

Went to COIN Center web site... its part of CAC-LDE

Seems like this paper would be fodder for the Blog, splash page scroll, did you provide for their use???

Live well and row

[Rob Thornton]

Niel,
Good paper. I put some comments on the SWJ Blog side. Best, Rob

[Cavguy]

Went to COIN Center web site... its part of CAC-LDE

Seems like this paper would be fodder for the Blog, splash page scroll, did you provide for their use???

Live well and row

Now Kirk, you know the REAL history of that paper ....

Niel

[Schmedlap]

Neil,

Wilf just took the words out of my mouth and re-typed them in a more concise and logical manner.

I read this skeptically, originally thinking, "oh boy, here we go again - another bright COIN idea pushing 'COIN skills'." I expected to disagree point by point. However, this seems straightforward and practical.

My only reservation, again, is what Wilf pointed out regarding the fundamental assumption, but even that doesn't seem overly troubling to me.

[Ken White]

...My only reservation, again, is what Wilf pointed out regarding the fundamental assumption, but even that doesn't seem overly troubling to me.

but while flawed, it's where the elephant is headed. I also am not particularly troubled by it, it can be worked through and is better than doing nothing.