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    I found this interview with a former CIA and KGB somewhat interesting.

    http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2003/spies031303.html

    Former CIA and KGB agents share inside look at espionage

    Redmon was a CIA agent

    Redmond acknowledged the KGB’s deep penetration into the U.S. government during the Cold War. He said if the Soviets had not collapsed and a military war resulted, the United States would have lost.

    “When you look at what would have happened if there was a war, it was terrifying,” he said. “We would have lost because the Soviets and the Hungarians had the lot.

    “When you look at the Soviet shuttle, it’s ours. The holes for the bolts are in the same place right down to the last millimeter.”
    Kalugin was KGB

    Kalugin’s speech centered on KGB methodology and ideology. He said during the Cold War, the Soviet government was focused on the United States as its number-one enemy. The KGB received solid support from the government, which asked no moral questions about the KGB’s actions and policies.

    “We conducted a clandestine war with assassination if necessary,” he said. “Our mission was to do everything we could to have a war without the fighting. This was seen as amoral in America, but it was our ideology.”
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    Kalugin listed several astonishing facts from a classified KGB report, proving just how much the organization is committed to counterintelligence. He said that in 1981 the KGB reported that they had funded or supported 70 books, 66 feature and documentary films, more than 100 television stations, 4,865 articles in magazines or newspapers, 300 conferences or exhibitions and 170,000 lectures around the world.
    They thoroughly infiltrated our media and universities, they may have won the long war if they weren't so corrupt and clinging to a bankrupt political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post

    They thoroughly infiltrated our media and universities, they may have won the long war if they weren't so corrupt and clinging to a bankrupt political system.
    Is the long war over?

    Is it possible Russia could restart it's program to undermine/distract/fracture the US with the same level of success they appear to have had with their earlier investment?

    It's just my personal opinion, but I'm left with the distinct feeling that Soviet era product inserted into the US higher education system will have a rather long radioactive half-life.

    It certainly seems like the well has been poisoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    I found this interview with a former CIA and KGB somewhat interesting.

    http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2003/spies031303.html

    Former CIA and KGB agents share inside look at espionage

    Redmon was a CIA agent



    Kalugin was KGB



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    They thoroughly infiltrated our media and universities, they may have won the long war if they weren't so corrupt and clinging to a bankrupt political system.
    Excellent find Bill,
    They were all over the Civil Rights Movement and the Black Liberation movements in the 60's and early 70's. They also supported books about UFO cover ups and JFK assassination conspiracies not because they believed any of that but because as was mentioned in the article they supported ANYTHING that would help to undermine the credibility of the US Government. Sadly they are very good at it

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    Wanted: A Real War Of Ideas With Russia

    Most glaringly, U.S. outreach requires resources in order to properly compete with that of Russia. Currently, the Voice of America’s Russia Service is funded to the paltry tune of just $13 million annually—a mere fraction of the $300 million a year that Russia Today alone is estimated to spend on its particular brand of “news.” At this level, U.S. public diplomacy toward the Russian-speaking world lacks anything resembling the scope and reach needed to counter the Kremlin.
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...s-russia-10813

    KGB efforts against western radio stations. Scanned Mitrokhin notes.

    http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110123

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