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    BBC's Antelava: "[Due 2 Russian TV] people in Donetsk... think gay Nazi Jews R coming from Europe 2 take their land."http://www.cbc.ca/1.3035515

    #BREAKING #Putin says Russia would consider recognizing "#Donetsk/#Luhansk People's Republic"http://www.interfax.ru/russia/437036

    ‘Hybrid War’ and ‘Little Green Men’: How It Works, and How It Doesn’t. The limits of #Russia|n strategy in #Ukraine
    http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/16/hybr...NbciN4.twitter

    Russia's turning Crimea into a gigantic military base: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/ru...a-fleet-2015-4 … 206 ships by 2020. pic.twitter.com/J9zpo9BUZT

    If they're from Luhansk, we're from Mars. Ramzan Kadyrov's boys? #Shyrokyne 15 April. #Kadyrovtsy with Lentsov. pic.twitter.com/s4KSuweUHV

    Lentsov makes us think #Shyrokyne is THE objective. Landbridge from Rostov to Crimea is THE Russian Army's objective. pic.twitter.com/z8FsjKYR3m
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    64th Motor Rifle Brigade from Khabarovsk near Ukrainian border https://informnapalm.org/8041-v-rost...-yz-habarovska

    Since Kelin said 16 Apr that RU "peacekeeping" op in UA is "unnecessary" we hear rumint that RU peacekeepers are prepping for a deployment.
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    #EU prepares"myth-busters"team to combat #Russia|n disinformation:https://news.vice.com/article/europe...disinformation … pic.twitter.com/6Dnj6x3Bf7

    The only doubt/question we have is whether the Russian Army ALSO intends to push down from Kursk, Belgorod regions? pic.twitter.com/8P5BnhF056

    Lentsov makes us think #Shyrokyne is THE objective. Landbridge from Rostov to Crimea is THE Russian Army's objective. pic.twitter.com/z8FsjKYR3m

    ATO forces repel militants' attack on Triokhizbenka, several Ukrainian soldiers wounded
    http://www.unian.info/war/1068720-at...s-wounded.html … pic.twitter.com/dJCFf6UnJu

    This is reference to a Russian Mod journalist who walked into a Russian booby trap and was seriously wounded.
    Basurin searched thru Lunev's pockets while pretending to aid him. Then VICE News shows him with a bookhttps://youtu.be/N_DlrQkINeo?t=4m26s

    Is this blue book what DPR cmdr Basurin was looking for in Zvezda/GRU operative Andrei Lunev's pockets? #Shyrokyne pic.twitter.com/DAE06jpGfp

    There was quite a battle for the bridgehead over the Seversky Donets this morning, Ukrainian WIA http://interfax.com.ua/news/general/261209.html
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    DPR Basurin blames increase in Russian shelling of Ukrainian positions near Donetsk on "drunkeness in Ukraine's National Guard

    Also, tanks arrived in Millerovo, 50 kilometers from the ukrainian border. Could be the 64 ОМСБр. @EliotHiggins pic.twitter.com/mbxIKw4JHd

    Disappointed Russian volunteer: Rebels are gangsters. It is a Russian aggression. (RUS) http://www.svoboda.mobi/a/26963666.html

    BREAKING
    Pro-Russian terrorists shelled at residential area using heavy artillery. Detailsat http://lugansk-news.com/pro-russian-...avy-artillery/ … pic.twitter.com/8Zl5yasgJb
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    Another Russian atrocity equal to their shelling of Mariupol.

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    Pro-Russian terrorists shelled at residential area using heavy artillery. Details
    at http://lugansk-news.com/pro-russian-...avy-artillery/ … pic.twitter.com/8Zl5yasgJb

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    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/0...ostov-burials/

    The secret of the Rostov burials

    Posted on April 18, 2015

    By Andrew Kaushik (Rostov-on-Don) and Vladimir Dergachov.
    04.01.2015

    Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

    Gazeta.ru correspondent investigates whether the military casualties in Donbas are being buried in cemeteries in Rostov-on-Don

    Photographs of fresh graves in Rostov-on-Don cemeteries, where Russian volunteer soldiers killed in Donbas were allegedly buried, have been circulating the Internet and were published in the major Ukrainian media. Gazeta.ru’s correspondent went to the Rostov cemetery and investigated the situation on site.

    “…I could have gone to prison for this for a long time”

    There were rumors of secret burials even three years ago: some civil activists thought that the authorities underreported the number of casualties from the floods in Krymske by several times. Referring to the anonymous statements by “emergency service workers,” they insisted that over a thousand people died, not 171. They looked for their graves in the adjacent Slovyansk district, but no evidence was submitted.

    It seems that it is possible to hide anything in the North Cemetery in Rostov-on-Don, one of the biggest [cemeteries] in Europe, even a battalion or a division. The head of the administrative department for city cemetery services, Valeri Zykov, says that the area of the churchyard is more than 400 hectares. Half a million people have been laid to rest here over 40 years. This is the only active cemetery out of eight city cemeteries; the others are only used for very close relatives.

    “The unknown ones are buried over there.” Valeri brings us to the rows of fresh piles of red soil, lot “31a.” Judging by the construction scattered around on the horizon, these are the photographs of “suspicious” graves that have found their way onto the Internet. “All is in accord with the documents that the morgue provides.”

    We don’t have this here, to bring them and secretly dump and bury them. I could have gone to prison for this for a long time. I will never agree to bury insurgents or anyone who has not been authorized.

    Some white stones have the name and dates, others have a featureless “UM” (unknown male) and “UF” (unknown female), with an approximate date of death and age (“40-45 years,” “60-70 years,” “40-50 years”). There is a large range, from 30 to 80 years.

    “Can the insurgents really be unknown?” The head of city burial services argues emotionally. “How can a 70-year-old grandfather or 60-year-old pensioner be useful in a fight? That’s nonsense.”

    He admits that he has found some photographers here, but they are “just sick,” and when he goes to talk [to them], they run away for some reason.

    In another lot, “20b,” the excavators are still buzzing in the trench as workmen stand to one side smoking. Some “unidentified” graves are fenced off, and are even marked with simple wooden crosses. Relatives are found according to last names, they pay their last respects, even if they are late.

    One separate part of the cemetery is a memorial to unknown soldiers killed in the first Chechen campaign. Several hundred separate graves with small headstones, like in American films.

    The Avenue of Honor

    “Then there was a war where the government participated officially. Today we are saying that the army is not fighting, but we do admit that there are volunteers and ‘tourists/ vacationers.’ In my understanding it is uncivilized,” says the head of the historical memorial of the Rostov section of the Russian Society for the Protection of Historical and Cultural Monuments, Aleksandr Kozhin.

    “Here we called that war an ‘antiterrorist operation,’ a mirror image of the current situation in Ukraine. There is such a fork [in the road] towards Taganrog, and a mass of refrigerators with human remains coming from the Chechen war piled up on the railroads. We didn’t know what to do with them, the DNA lab could not manage. They probably decided at the government level to bury them here. They should be given their due, not in a mass grave but each separately.”

    According to Kozhin, if Rostov volunteers are dying in Donbas, their comrades would not commit them to the earth in secret, but with honor.

    “Recently, we looked into a story of a young man. He was a member of a search initiative, he was 25-26 years old. He sincerely believed in the ‘Russian World’ idea. I don’t know how long he fought, but he was killed,” the historian says. “His comrades from the search initiative turned to the administration of the Matveev Kurgan settlement with a request to inter his remains in the Avenue of Honor. I don’t know how they settled the issue.”

    4He explained that the Don [area along the river Don] search staff went to Donbas several times. During one of their trips, the insurgents themselves detained another young man. They took him for a Ukrainian spy and almost put him up against the wall. After some other insurgents from the self-proclaimed republics “apologized profusely,” they let him go.

    “It is possible to suppose that an insurgent left from Ukraine through Rostov and died here.”

    Even the independent organization, “Women of the Don,” who deal with enlisted soldiers and monitor the situation with Donbas, do not know about the mass secret burials of insurgents who have fought in eastern Ukraine. The head of the organization, Valentina Cherevatenko, told Gazeta.ru that she had no information about the “suspicious” graves.

    “I would start from what is called the presumption of innocence. In this situation, we immediately try to establish that someone is culpable for something, and we have to rectify it. But guilt must be proven. There is no evidence of mass burials,” Vladimir Artsibashev, the deputy head of Rostov administration, who is in charge of public utility issues, responds to Gazeta.ru. “The North cemetery has exhausted its resources. We are economizing every meter now, we are starting to cut the roads down; before, [the road] was four or five meters wide, now we leave a lane for one car, and carry out burials on the rest of the land. Woodlands are cleared, slopes and hills get leveled out. Rostov does not have its own land, we cannot choose a lot on the city’s territory for a new cemetery.”

    The official confirmed that they regularly bury unclaimed bodies. If relatives are not found and the surname is not known, the headstones just show an approximate age and the letters UM or UF. It has always been like that, ever since the North cemetery was opened in 1972. According to him, the morgues themselves carry out tenders and identify a funeral organization. In one year, 436 people whose identity was not established were interred in a city with one million inhabitants.

    To look at the situation theoretically, as described in the Ukrainian media, it would be more logical to bury soldiers somewhere near the border in remote areas where no one would see the graves. “It is incredibly difficult to do this in Rostov, there are no closed cemeteries, everything can be freely reached,” the deputy chief of the city continues. “There is a decision [made] by the local parliament and a resolution by the authorities whereby we only bury residents of Rostov or people who die in the city if their bodies are not collected by their relatives. It is possible to suppose that an insurgent left Ukraine through Rostov and died here. Then we have the right to bury him here. Such statistical analysis has not yet been conducted, but if there are instances like this, then you can count them on the palm of your hand, theoretically it is possible.”

    The bodies are periodically removed once they accumulate.

    The news about the arrival of 500 new graves was like a case of “Chinese whispers.” According to Artsibashev, in 2014 the authorities planned a road through the new Suvorovskiy city district (you can see it behind lot 31a), which went round the edge of the North cemetery. They needed 500 exhumations to do this. They abandoned the project after consulting the law in detail: it is not permitted to build anything on the cemetery, only plant trees.

    The field commander of the self-proclaimed DNR, Oleg Melnikov, told Gazeta.ru that Russians who are killed are buried locally if their relatives could not be found, or under extreme circumstances. For example, [like it happened] last summer when Slovyansk was surrounded by the ATO forces.

    “Then it was not possible to move the people out, we buried them in a cemetery under the names of their commanders. On my people’s graves, there was the letter ‘M,’ I knew where my men were to ensure their graves wouldn’t get dug up,” Melnikov says.

    They take the bodies out of the morgue and transfer them over the Russian border only if they find relatives to whom they can give the deceased for burial, the commander confirms.

    “We had one case, when Pavel, a 22-year-old policeman from Moscow, told his relatives that he was going on a work trip. Instead, he took a leave of absence; joined us and got killed. We moved him and gave [his body] to his relatives, the Interior Ministry helped us in every way they could. I very much doubt that they will carry out anonymous burials in Rostov. If I wanted to hide bodies, which we are not doing of course, why not bury them in Donetsk or Luhansk?”

    Other insurgents that Gazeta.ru has talked to said that they themselves move their comrades’ bodies out and give them to relatives. Vladislav Brig, the head of the self-proclaimed DNR Ministry of Defense said that the Donetsk Ombudsman negotiates with relatives and controls the dispatch of the bodies of Russian volunteers to their relatives. According to him, the bodies are periodically removed once they accumulate.

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    http://bne.eu/content/story/stolypin-moscow-disconnect

    STOLYPIN: The Moscow Disconnect

    Mark Galeotti of New York University

    April 16, 2015

    In a hold over from Soviet days, the mighty Kutuzovsky Prospect highway leading into Moscow’s city centre still has a special middle lane reserved for emergency vehicles or, more often, the motorcades of senior government officials. Not for them the misery of the capital’s notorious traffic jams. They whisk past, in a wholly separate world of smooth, fast and easy transit, protected by wailing-sirened police cars, incognito behind tinted windows. Russian politics likewise appears to be devolving into two distinct realms, as Vladimir Putin and his closest cohorts retreat from the increasingly problematic realities of the real world, into their privileged and secure haven, apart from the people who actually have to administer Russia for them.

    It is hardly unusual for there to be disconnects between the rulers and the ruled, but not only are these are times which require some tough and far-sighted policies, but even within the broad category of the “rulers” there is a distinct gulf. Two of the prevailing themes that emerged from a range of meetings and conversations I’ve had in Moscow these past two weeks are a sense of drift and a lack of connection between even senior figures within business, politics and government, and the small circle who actually define policy. As one unusually forthcoming middle-ranking official put it, albeit wisely off the record: “Government has retreated from view, orders come from a secret court, and we don’t know who is making them, how and why.”

    Secret Court

    Even those who are still confident in their president and claim optimism about the country’s future become coy when pressed about how far they feel that the channels to transmit their views up the power vertical are working well, and to what extent they feel their individual and collective interests are being represented within that “secret court”.

    This is perhaps especially visible when it comes to the economy. An economist who in his day consulted frequently for the government threw up his hands and said: “nothing’s happening, we have no meaningful policy.” The people whose job it is to manage Russian macroeconomics do seem strangely uncertain, perhaps because they often don’t get to do their jobs. Multiple sources claimed that the governor of the central bank, Elvira Nabiullina, tried for over a week to schedule a meeting with Putin before last year’s ruble collapse, and Kremlin aides seem to have had at least as much influence over interest rates.

    Meanwhile, there is an on-and-off war being waged in Ukraine, but neither the generals nor the diplomats seem either to know the intended end result – or be consulted about strategy. Both within the military and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, their role seems to be simply to await instructions. These often come through Security Council secretary Nikolai Patrushev, former head of the Federal Security Service (FSB), which generals grumble now seems to be defining policy.

    Although there is something of a cult of Foreign Minister Lavrov these days – you can buy We-Heart-Lavrov t-shirts in the Evropeisky shopping mall – even he does not seem to be playing much of a role in advising on policy, merely executing it. Consider, for example, Russia’s recent attempts to play the “nuclear card”, using a forum of generals to threaten a response up to and including atomic weapons should Nato deploy more troops into its own eastern member states. Apart from the fact that this is a hollow threat, it served only to harden resolve in the Nordic regions. Five nations – the very kind of states Moscow presumably hoped to dismay and deter – came together explicitly to characterize Russia as the foremost threat they faced. As one recently retired diplomat sniffed: “Lavrov would not have made that mistake.”

    Detached

    It is, of course, a disturbing development when not only the foot soldiers of the Russian state, but also its noncoms and field officers feel that their own commanders are out of touch and unwilling to listen to them.

    Beyond that, though, this also speaks to a second, even more problematic issue. If the people making the final decisions seem detached from the processes of daily governance, this is not just a problem for the executive: that same distance makes it harder for the executive to really know what is happening, as a basis for effective policy. In other words: we do not know what Putin knows.

    I tend to discount the kind of over-heated claims that he is irrational and erratic. However, a rational actor makes decisions based on the evidence and assessments with which he is presented. We have very little hard information about just how well Putin is being briefed, but another leitmotif of conversations in Moscow was scepticism from specialists of every stripe that he was being kept well informed about their particular area. The economists might accept that he is on top of geopolitics, but were anxious that he did not appreciate the real depth of the financial challenges ahead. The cops assumed everything was going to plan in the Donbas, but felt that the president did not understand the practical challenges they were facing – especially in light of the 10% personnel budget cut being imposed on them – and listened too much to the FSB. And so it went.

    Sometimes, the problem seems to be that no one wants to be the one to bring Putin bad news. Within the intelligence community, for example, each agency briefs separately and has learned that getting his ear and favor tends to mean telling him what he wants to hear. Likewise, the Presidential Administration, according to some people I spoke to, can be more interested in keeping everyone happy than ensuring the most accurate perspectives get to Putin’s desk. And a president who prides himself on not using the internet, who has housetrained the media, and who rarely now interacts with his people in anything other than carefully-scripted media events, is unlikely to get an independent take on the state of the nation.

    Why should Russia’s rulers address traffic jams so long as they have their own lane? Indeed, do they even know how much time ordinary Muscovites waste in traffic, the frustrations and angers generated as a result? Is anyone telling them? When policy is being determined by a small circle of people increasingly detached from the realities of the country’s situation, and whose own advisers appear determined to protect their isolation, then even the smartest and most rational leaders are unlikely to generate smart and rational policies.
    Mark Galeotti is Professor of Global Affairs at the Center for Global Affairs, New York University. He writes the blog In Moscow’s Shadows (http://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.com/)

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    Heavy fight in #Shyrokine since mid day up to now. The sides are apparently using 120mm mortars and RPGs

    Terrorists attacked #Ukrainian positions at #Tryokhizbenka, pushed back after 2 hours fight. http://lugansk-news.com/terrorists-a...2-hours-fight/ … pic.twitter.com/AcqSuVnfLF

    Another very clear example of the importance Russian army invaders attach to river borders and crossing points

    We're seeing some reports that fighting intensifies in #Shyrokyne near Mariupol. But we seek further details...

    .Moskal: Militants' artillery systems badly damage two private houses in Valuyske
    http://www.unian.info/war/1068766-mo...-valuyske.html … pic.twitter.com/kAVSn46uHJ

    #OSCE at lunch
    “@shelomovskiy: Heavy fight in #Shyrokine since mid day up to now. The sides are apparently using 120mm mortars and RPGs

    Kremlin social media trying to ignite fire over #Shyrokyne. Don't be surprised if Russian Army moves from Novoazovsk to "rescue" #OSCE_SMM!

    No surprise. RT_com is spreading the lie that Azov Regiment shelled #OSCE_SMM in #Shyrokyne. Cheap Russian agitprop from the KGB media Dept.

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    Tonight again heavy fighting that is in fact indicating that the Minsk 2 is for all practical purposes dead.

    Use of heavy artillery and MRLSs is a clear violation of Minsk and indicates they were never pulled back.

    BREAKING
    Heavy fighting in #Shyrokyne goes on for the 4 hours already! @OSCE_SMM left the area as soon as it stared. Reported by @Polk_Azov


    AZOV reports about 2 wounded from their side and at least 2 killed from the side of Russian terrorists

    16:26 #Donetsk, the eastern outskirts @HU_dojnik: All day sounds of heavy artillery volleys with pauses

    Heavy artillery fire in #Donetsk, even GRAD fire reported.
    "It's like in winter again" locals say


    16:00 #Luhansk @vladicvp: Grenade explosion near the entrance of captured region internal affairs directorate.

    15:57 #Donetsk Svobody Sq @vladicvp: 'Endless small arms and high caliber shooting, grenade launchers'

    10:37 #Donetsk Kalinovka @Yljano4ka: "#Grad has just worked, very clear sound heard, from Kalinin coalmine or Gvardeyka"

    17:43 #Donetsk Kalinovka @Serzzze: 12 Kamaz/Ural trucks column towards #Makeevka

    There is heavy fighting in #Shyrokyne. Casualties among #Russia|ns, also WIA on #Ukraine side https://twitter.com/itsector/statu

    NATO jets in Lithuania scrambled to accompany Russian plane flying- again- with transponder switched off
    http://bit.ly/1DkqGMa

    Europe faces a 'real threat' from #Russia, warns #US #Army commander.http://www.bulletinstandard.org/us/e...der-h7784.html … pic.twitter.com/5kr1YRStxP

    18:08 #Donetsk Gvardeyka @Palych_18: 'Lokks like #Uragan started to work, 2 volleys - 5 & 13 items'

    18:08 #Makeevka @felixsteal: #Grad has just worked.
    @nixer79: From #Yakovlevka are Zasyadko coal mine up-cast mine site - Grigoriev ettles.

    18:00 #Makeevka @OldHistoric: Sounds like a short #Grad volley from #Yakovlevka area
    #Donetsk 20:17

    ul. Shekspira - sounds like GRADs https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/589482733669318657

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    From social media that is tracking the shellings and attacks tonight---I have a 'reports overflow', a little pause and one more attempt to manage them then

    18:20 #Avdeevka @GirkinGirkin: There were impacts behind the railroad, tram stop in Nekrasova St

    18:55 #Avdeevka @bamr69: Impacts to private residential houses area, like #Grad.

    #Donetsk
    18:05 #Spartak @UkraineSuper1: intense small arms fire
    18:05 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy: short distant MRLS volleys

    19:08 Gladkovka @Serzzze:'SMG safari'
    19:13 @hunab_ku04:Shells tow/#Pisky fr/Gladkovka/Gvardeyka,DurnaBalka shooting

    19:14 #Donetsk Kalinovka @Serzzze: Single volleys, like mortars
    19:16 BMP from #Makeevka direction westwards

    19:08 Gladkovka @Serzzze:'SMG safari'
    19:13 @hunab_ku04:Shells tow/#Pisky fr/Gladkovka/Gvardeyka,DurnaBalka shooting

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    #BreakingNews
    Between 18:10 to 18:33 Russian forces fired 2 volleys 7 #GRAD missiles at #Avdeevka, nullifying the entire #Minsk2 treaty.


    #News
    Another Russian #GRAD volley hit #Vilkhove on N-E #Luhansk oblast around 16.30, destroying one residential building, damaging more.

    REPORTS: Large number of clashes occurring tonight across the frontline in #Ukraine. Artillery and Grad MRL systems being used

    #News
    #Pisky was hit by 30(!!!) 152 mm artillery shells last night between 23:40 and 1:00.
    Later until now also by many mortars and snipers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    From social media that is tracking the shellings and attacks tonight---I have a 'reports overflow', a little pause and one more attempt to manage them then

    18:20 #Avdeevka @GirkinGirkin: There were impacts behind the railroad, tram stop in Nekrasova St

    18:55 #Avdeevka @bamr69: Impacts to private residential houses area, like #Grad.

    #Donetsk
    18:05 #Spartak @UkraineSuper1: intense small arms fire
    18:05 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy: short distant MRLS volleys

    19:08 Gladkovka @Serzzze:'SMG safari'
    19:13 @hunab_ku04:Shells tow/#Pisky fr/Gladkovka/Gvardeyka,DurnaBalka shooting

    19:14 #Donetsk Kalinovka @Serzzze: Single volleys, like mortars
    19:16 BMP from #Makeevka direction westwards

    19:08 Gladkovka @Serzzze:'SMG safari'
    19:13 @hunab_ku04:Shells tow/#Pisky fr/Gladkovka/Gvardeyka,DurnaBalka shooting
    Russian Army staging post at Novoazovsk (east of #Shyrokyne) being resupplied and reinforced with artillery

    "Report from #Novoazovsk:
    heard a large batch, cannon artillery, aviation (it seems unmanned - UAV)." https://twitter.com/sir_T_Lawrence/s...00740374306816

    19:17 #Donetsk @felixsteal: Howitzers volleys from Durna Balka started.

    20:17 #Donetsk, the center @Buzzing_Rook: Howitzer rumbles from a position close to the center, flashes in airport/#Pisky

    19:33 #Donetsk
    @relictDon:Howitzers were from Smolyanka or even further north, not Durna Balka
    @felixsteal: Several positions

    20:20 #Donetsk Topaz @edikko: Single 4-5 rockets MRLS shots, impact flashes far in the northwest - Smerch or Uragan

    20:34 #Donetsk @AlfaNubovsky: Flare lights in airport hangars area, SMG fire in the airport

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    Someone recognizes the Russian artillery tactic used before they attack--they have used it over and over in their Ukrainian attacks just before each previous ceasefire has collapsed and then they go straight to offensive operations and yet the West says nothing.

    Russian forces continue softening Ukrainian positions near Mariupol & Donetsk via heavy artillery & mortar fire ahead of new large offensive

    While the US is so tangled up in the ME ie Yemen -----Russia launches a new offensive as the US cannot dance it seems at two or more weddings.

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    Russia needs to gain strong foothold in Arctic — Rogozin
    Russia

    TASS April 19, 8:18 UTC+3

    "Someone may like that or not but it’s their problems. The most important thing for us should be that we like it and that it is useful for our country," Rogozin said

    Russia should exert every effort to come to the Arctic and conquer the Russia-controlled part, Russian Vice-Premier Dmitry Rogozin said opening the North Pole-2015 drifting Arctic station.

    "There are many problems here which have been unsolved for decades. They were not solved in Soviet, the pre-Soviet period or in contemporary Russia," Rogozin said adding that time had come for Russia to come to the Arctic and conquer it. "At least the part which is in our area of responsibility," Rogozin stressed.
    I believe after Rogozin's visit The Svalbad Treaty from 1920 is now only a piece of paper
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    'Documents' the looters are showing to Graham that they are allowed to take #MH17 debris. But it's issued by DNR. pic.twitter.com/eaqVVKlZra

    Note: Graham is a UK journalist who first worked for Russian Today in the UK and then as a Russian journalist reporting daily from the mercenary side-was witness to a number of mercenary tortures of Ukrainian POWs which even when the UK was informed they did nothing.

    VIDEO 'Looters' removing #MH17 debris with Graham Phillips filming it. Same car as in OSCE-photo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhqEacyT5Y
    via @sterion75

    Gee... Dutch Safety Board asked DNR to REMOVE all #MH17 debris nov 2014!?
    http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/uploads...t-MH17_web.pdf
    via @ArnoldGreidanus pic.twitter.com/YMJMBwUizx

    Azov regiment repels militants' attack in Shyrokyne after 5-hour fight
    http://www.unian.info/politics/10688...our-fight.html … pic.twitter.com/zoPTZbUXTA


    BUT Russian can sell S300s to Iran against Israeli wishes:--typical Russian double standards
    Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine - Middle East - Jerusalem Post" http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Put...Ukraine-398497

    Israeli instructors are already training Ukrainian forces & now Putin fears Israel may supply Ukraine with weapons http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...021061545.html

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    Rus proxies fired at Ukr forces 8 times in #Mariupol area y-day. Asked Ukr to cease fire 3 times, restarted firing 30-60min after @0629comua

    Ukr side at Joint Control Center suggests reinforcing monitoring of ceasefire regime in #Donetsk airport area by - ATO news center

    Confirmed by ATO that #Russia|ns used GRAD rockets to fire on #Avdeevka yesterday evening

    #Russia-backed militants resumed shelling from Grad: fired 14 rockets at Ukrainian positions in Avdiivka y-day after 6 pm - #ATO news center

    #Russia-backed militants shelled Valuyske, #Luhansk region w/ Grad. No casualties are reported http://moskal.in.ua/?categoty=news&news_id=1656 … pic.twitter.com/Oyjgyc1hpt

    Valuyske is on the East side of Stanitsa Luhanska. Its new. Possible shelled from Russian territory? pic.twitter.com/AwWrywJJN9

    BreakingNews
    During the Russian attack on #Trehizbenke, 3 Ukrainian soldiers and 2 civilians were wounded yesterday.
    - Reg State Admin

    25 Years Ago, Gorbachev’s Economic Blockade Failed to Keep Lithuania in the USSR http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com...-economic.html

    #OSCE monitors are now in #Shyrokine helping Azov battalion to retrieve a body of the Georgian fighter who was killed there yesterday
    NOTE: after they let the area--mercenaries started fighting and shelling again

    09:30 #Shakhtarsk @olegdon3: 18 eighteen-wheelers towards #Donetsk, 'fully loaded - they've just crawled'.

    US Mission to NATO ✔ @USNATO
    Fact check: NATO on Russia's false claims on missile defense, nuclear exercises, presence
    : http://goo.gl/3hoYCk pic.twitter.com/xn44WOybLf

    2014 Dec 12, @Interpreter_Mag: "Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine Will Lead More Countries to Go Nuclear, Portnikov Says"
    http://www.interpretermag.com/putins...ortnikov-says/

    Headline on RU state TV channel: "Ukrainians sell their women into sex slavery". http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mi...90834-4krm.htm

    NOTE: Seems that the same Russian State TV station forgot that the Russian mafia controls most of the sex trade and porn industry in Europe—far more than the Ukrainian mafia does.

    Oleksiy Matsuka: Putin will have to pay minimum $120 mln a month as retirement pensions in Donbas if "DPR" puppets start their advance
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    Important to keep in mind:

    NOTE: When the attack number reaches 60 per day then we are back to the pre Minsk 2 fighting period:

    #News
    4 Ukrainian soldiers were injured in 50 Russian attacks in Eastern #Ukraine over the last 24 hours

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    Another form of Russian "non linear warfare" and or what the West calls "hybrid warfare".
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...source=twitter

    Putin Uses the S-300 Missile to Dominate Its Neighbors. Now Iran Can, Too.

    Israel isn’t the only country that will be threatened if S-300 missile systems arrive in Iran. The Saudis and Turks had better be worried as well.

    TBILISI, Georgia—As the Kremlin lifts its ban on the delivery of S-300 missiles to Iran, and as Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov claims the air defense systems “will not put at risk the security of any state in the region, including Israel,” a palpable irony hangs in the air here. For years, Russia has been using S-300 missiles to dominate the skies and to threaten Georgia within her own territory.

    In an interview with The Daily Beast on Monday, a senior U.S. Marine Corps aviator said that if Russia delivered the S-300 missile to Iran, it would fundamentally change U.S. war plans. “I find it almost hilarious that the Russians are saying, ‘It’s an entirely defensive system and cannot attack anyone, including Israel,’” the officer said. And the Georgians definitely aren’t laughing.

    Russia is now using airspace as another front in its new brand of so-called hybrid warfare. Airspace violations are nothing new, of course. Yet just as the Kremlin is prone to violating the territorial integrity of its neighbors with “little green men,” it has used the S-300 to begin a campaign of violating its neighbors’ “air sovereignty.”

    A hint of what that development can mean came last July when Flight MH17 with 298 people aboard was hit by a Russian-made Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile. The main difference between the Buk-M1 and the S-300 surface-to-air missile is that the S-300 is vastly more powerful and more deadly.

    This causes particular concern for NATO countries like the Baltics, which do not have their own sophisticated air defenses or fighter jets. Meanwhile, just south of them in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, Russian President Vladimir Putin has deployed a more advanced version of the S-300 missile system, the S-400, threatening Poland as well as the Baltics. Putin has sent S-300 missile systems to Crimea and just about every breakaway Russia region on the map. This is not to protect those regions, of course. The point of the S-300 is to project power and achieve armed tactical control over the airspace of those territories.

    First deployed by the Soviets in 1979 with land and sea variants, the S-300 missile system (NATO codename SA-10 Grumble) once again is being used by Russia to test NATO for weaknesses and to undermine the resolve of the alliance. The vehicular mobility of the S-300 system—like its Western counterpart, the MIM-104 Patriot—makes the missiles particularly effective and dangerous for aircraft because the systems don’t remain at fixed locations.

    For Georgia, which is not a NATO member despite a decade-plus of trying, Russia takes this air sovereignty violation campaign to a whole new level. The Kremlin has positioned—or maintains the ability to position—S-300 missiles at three locations: Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Georgia’s two Russian-occupied breakaway regions, and Russia’s 102nd Military Base in Gyumri, Armenia.

    As Georgian Journal recently reported, “The Russian aerial defense forces have the potential of inflicting paralyzing damage to Georgia’s territorial integrity.” The result is a kind of “reverse Iron Dome” over Georgia, giving Putin almost absolute control of the country’s airspace. This in itself proves that the S-300 systems are not “defensive” weapons, regardless of Putin’s assurances to Israel. Just because they are “anti-aircraft” weapons does not make them “defensive.” Russia uses these missiles for the outright dominance of its neighbors’ skies, which is why Israel, the Gulf states, and Turkey should be worried about Iran receiving them.

    Putin has learned quite a lot from the invasions of Georgia and Ukraine. If Russia can achieve the same airspace domination of a NATO country as it has of Georgia, then not only can Russia attack, but it can also impose an aviation embargo or a no-fly zone. It is these new forms of warfare that Putin is most interested in. The ability to take out a NATO country’s entire airspace without entering its territory—without technically attacking it—is his goal here. This way Article 5 of NATO’s Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more NATO members is an attack against them all, is not invoked. But Article 5 doesn’t mention “air sovereignty,” and Putin knows that few NATO members will be ready to go to war over something that ambiguous.

    Introducing the S-300 missile system into Iran’s arsenal will affect the entire Middle East. It will shake alliances. Putin views the S-300 system as a means for power projection, and that is exactly what he is selling to Iran.

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    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Pro-Russian militants violated ceasefire 50 times yesterday; 2/3 of these using 120-mm mortars, 122-mm artillery, tanks

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Militants fired at UA military positions close to #Syrokyne. @OSCE_SMM monitors were present as well

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Map. Situation in eastern #Ukraine, April 19, 12:00 EET pic.twitter.com/IFUFYn1f2s

    In Pictures: Heavy fighting just outside #Mariupol resumes as @OSCE monitors leave #Shyrokine. http://www.demotix.com/news/7382413/...eave-shyrokine … pic.twitter.com/BqQlg8orzY

    #Footage
    Meanwhile in Russian-occupied #Donbas, Russian forces practice for using the Msta-B.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBNvwjAd3Q … pic.twitter.com/Yvb5tbsd4M

    Video version based on post "5th Armored Brigade Russian Armed Forces in the battle for Debaltseve" by Om TV:youtu.be/ZS2FsE9oAxo pic.twitter.com/FWwnWDzfI5

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    Updated #map
    #Shyrokyne acc. to my latest geolocations.
    Russian forces slowly advance. Ukrainians hold the front
    . pic.twitter.com/ostp31gfNh

    Moscow Lacks Available Forces to Seize and Hold Baltics, Estonian Military Expert Says http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com...-to-seize.html

    RU took most of the buffer zones after Minsk2. They'll take this too and they'll be at #Mariupol gates pic.twitter.com/Cta2ExZ6WH

    Pulling back 5-7km" means to move the front lines at least to Pioners'ke, or to leave that village in buffer zone.

    After saying that DMZ @ #Shyrokyne will be created ONLY IF ceasefire holds, and after hours of battle yday, guess what Ukr officers did tday

    Ukrainian officers from joint monitoring commission visited their russian counterparts today to discuss the creation of DMZ

    Seems they got a bloody nose there during the storming attempt on April 17, so they complain about the use of heavy mortars against them.

    Same story as always:
    "Russification" of the buffer zones, Ukr. troops "hold their position" ... until it's too late.
    (Donetsk airport etc.)


    Ukraine has many battle-hardened, skilled, intelligent frontline commanders. Problem is, they're not in General Staff pic.twitter.com/up7RvcLYk0
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    #Analysis #Map
    Russian whine, the Ukr army denied them another bridgehead near Tr'okhizbenka.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S86Gs8COyf4 … pic.twitter.com/x69zf1RUZC

    Russia Silences Ukrainian TV Channels in Crimea http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine.../26964898.html

    Ukraine suggests OSCE monitors install internet cameras in Avdiyivka
    http://www.unian.info/war/1068892-uk...avdiyivka.html … pic.twitter.com/2IEkfd1hoi

    More Russian propaganda about Obama-from Russian Today:
    Not kidding you: this RT-produced split-screen video is titled "Obama could not withstand Putin's stare" >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGbOwQYvb4

    VIDEO: Right Sector in eastern #Ukraine use several AGS-30 against enemy positions.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpG3siMRLcI … pic.twitter.com/DqkGwBqjZK

    #ANALYSIS #MAP
    Regiment #Azov fights advancing Russian troops in northern #Shyrokyne
    (18.04.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ojipIF4Ug … pic.twitter.com/8JqmefqKK6

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