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    Quote Originally Posted by JarodParker View Post
    According to Wiki, it was re-opened in 2004 under a new name. No despot would shut down a munitions factory.
    Hey Jarod,
    I read that but I'm not confident with most Wiki entries without a little more research.

    There's another AllAfrica story regarding Hibret Machine Tools. Based on this para from the article, I gotta wonder exactly what they really do

    Besides, different size bullets, 60 and 82 mm Mortars and other miscellaneous non-lethal metal equipments by Hibret Machine Tools Engineering complex were some of the war equipments displayed at the 6-day long exhibition.
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    Sergent Major Grumpy,

    Yes I am looking at where it comes from and thanks again for the link. My point was just that the roads for Darfur are quite different than the roads of East part of South Sudan. Especially as there are a lot of traditional cross border movement by the cattle breeders.
    As Small Arms Survey shown in several reports, those roads are the ones that were used up to 2005 by civilians to access small arms and ammunitions. They were going in the desertic part of West Ethiopia or West Kenya and exchanged cattles agains weapons.
    I believe it is still the case but this could be different.
    So my where it comes from question has 2 levels:
    - where it comes from locally in that part of African, what are the roads taken by the weapons on the continent?
    -And where it comes from: who is manufacturing the ammo.

    Thanks again for your advices. Will be difficult for me to access directly the ammo as I am often moving with Sudanese military observors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    Hey Jarod,
    I read that but I'm not confident with most Wiki entries without a little more research.

    There's another AllAfrica story regarding Hibret Machine Tools. Based on this para from the article, I gotta wonder exactly what they really do
    Hey Stan,
    I agree with not completely relying on wiki articles, especially something this obscure. The Homicho Complex does get a nod on this USA War College doc from 2009 Link. So I'm inclined to think that it's still in operation. Next time I'm in that corner of the world, I'll drop by the front gate and ask the nice man at the gate holding the AK whether a tour of the facility can be arranged. And of course I will report back here on the hilarity that will ensue.

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    Does anyone have an idea about the small arms (G3 especially) in far west Ethiopia?
    I am thinking of the Ikoroma ethnic group in particular but the whole area is under interrest.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-A Lagrange View Post
    Does anyone have an idea about the small arms (G3 especially) in far west Ethiopia?
    I am thinking of the Ikoroma ethnic group in particular but the whole area is under interrest.
    You'll find G3's anywhere in Africa where the National Armies had them, or with anyone which had backing from Saudi Arabia. My guess is, there will almost certainly be some.
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