Ukraine (closed; covers till August 2014)

[Fuchs]

Accept that the Crimea was an incredibly low-hanging fruit which fell into Russia's hands for almost no effort - for a good reason.

Next, re-establish and reinforce an international climate in which aggressions are prohibited effectively - including the Westerners.


The U.S., the UK, Israel and France have become much too casual in bombing or invading foreign countries under pretences which wouldn't (and don't) pass in the UNSC (and wouldn't so even if Russia and the PRC had no veto privilege).

Estonia has ratified a treaty called the "North Atlantic Treaty" in 2004. The invasion of Iraq 2002 was a clear violation of this treaty.
Do you expect the government of Estonia to protest loudly and try to inflict some pain (such as kicking out some diplomats and CIA spies) once the U.S. president decides to casually bomb a country with cruise missiles the next time?
If not, Estonia would have little moral right to expect a less troubling neighbourhood.
Don't expect an unfriendly great power to be restricted by the rule of law if you side with great powers who de facto claim that only rule of force applies to them.

[JMA]

Great powers do what they can - or think they can - get away with. You as a German would know this.

The Us and its western side-kicks did what they could get away with.

Now Russia is doing the same because the US and the West has ceased to be a deterrent to Russian action.

This has nothing to do with right or wrong or morality but all to do with power... again you as a German would know this.

Accept that the Crimea was an incredibly low-hanging fruit which fell into Russia's hands for almost no effort - for a good reason.

Next, re-establish and reinforce an international climate in which aggressions are prohibited effectively - including the Westerners.


The U.S., the UK, Israel and France have become much too casual in bombing or invading foreign countries under pretences which wouldn't (and don't) pass in the UNSC (and wouldn't so even if Russia and the PRC had no veto privilege).

Estonia has ratified a treaty called the "North Atlantic Treaty" in 2004. The invasion of Iraq 2002 was a clear violation of this treaty.
Do you expect the government of Estonia to protest loudly and try to inflict some pain (such as kicking out some diplomats and CIA spies) once the U.S. president decides to casually bomb a country with cruise missiles the next time?
If not, Estonia would have little moral right to expect a less troubling neighbourhood.
Don't expect an unfriendly great power to be restricted by the rule of law if you side with great powers who de facto claim that only rule of force applies to them.