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    http://nypost.com/2015/09/19/putin-i...nother-crimea/

    Putin is turning the Syrian coast into another Crimea

    By Amir Taheri
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    September 19, 2015 | 8:05pm

    After weeks of dancing around the issue, the Obama administration has expressed concern about “heightened military activity” by Russia in Syria.

    But what if we are facing something more than “heightened military activity?” What if Moscow is preparing to give Syria the full Putin treatment?

    For years, Russia has been helping Syrian despot Bashar al-Assad cling to a diminishing power structure in a shrinking territorial base without trying to impose an overall strategy.
    Now, however, there are signs that Russia isn’t content to just support Assad. It wants to control Syria.

    The Putin treatment is reserved for countries in Russia’s “near neighborhood” that try to break out of Moscow’s orbit and deprive it of strategic assets held for decades.

    In such cases, unable to restore its past position, Russia tries to create a new situation in which it keeps a sword dangling above the head of the recalcitrant nation.

    Russia’s military intervenes directly and indirectly, always with help from a segment of the local population concerned. Russia starts by casting itself as protector of an ethnic, linguistic or religious minority that demands its military intervention against a central power vilified with labels such as “fascist” and “terrorist.”

    The first nation to experience the Putin treatment was Georgia in 2008, when Russian tanks moved in to save the Persian-speaking Ossetian minority and the Turkish-speaking Abkhazians from “the fascist regime” in Tbilisi.


    Initially, Putin had feared that the US or the European Union might not let his war of conquest go unpunished. But nothing happened. President Obama talked of “reset” with Moscow, agreed to set up a joint committee to look into the matter and then allowed the whole thing to fade away.

    Tested in Georgia with success, the Putin treatment was next applied to Ukraine, where a pro-West regime was talking of joining the European Union and even NATO. Russia intervened in Crimea to “save” its Russian-speaking majority from oppression.

    Facing no opposition, Putin simply annexed Crimea before giving the Donetsk area of eastern Ukraine the same treatment, this time with the help of “Russian volunteers” coming to help fellow Russian-speakers.

    In Ossetia, Putin gained control of key passages to Chechnya and upper Caucasus.

    In Abkhazia, he extended Russian presence on the Black Sea.

    In Crimea, he saved the Russian Navy’s largest base.

    In Donetsk he obtained a political pistol aimed at the temple of the government in Kiev.

    Pro-West Azerbaijan, meanwhile, is threatened after Putin helped Armenia snatch the enclave of Upper Qarabagh (Nagorno Karabakh) in Transcaucasia.

    What about Syria?

    The Soviet Union had a military presence in Syria since 1971, when Hafez al-Assad, father of the present despot, signed a defense pact with Moscow. The pact gave Russia mooring rights in two of Syria’s ports, Latakia and Tartus on the Mediterranean. The older Assad, however, shied away from granting Russians permanent bases.

    Last year, Putin asked Bashar to let Russia build aero-naval assets on the Syrian coast to facilitate support for the regime in Damascus. Then still hopeful of surviving the civil war, Bashar managed to dodge the issue with help from his allies in Tehran.

    Now, however, both Assad and the mullahs of Tehran know that they cannot fight this war much longer. Assad has publicly admitted he does not have enough men to keep the territory he still controls let alone recapture what he has lost amounting to 60% of the Syrian landmass. Reluctant to risk Iranian lives, the mullahs have sent Lebanese Hezbollah fighters and “volunteers” from Afghanistan and Pakistan to fight for Assad. But they, too, have suffered irreparable losses.

    After weeks of talks between Assad and the Russians with the mullahs also engaged by both sides, it now seems that Russia has obtained what it wanted: the right to build permanent aero-naval bases on the Syrian coast. Recent satellite images show that massive construction work has already started. At the same time, Russia has won control of Bassel al-Assad airport, the second-largest in Syria, transforming it into a hub for its “air-bridge” operations spanning Iranian and Iraqi air spaces.

    Russia is bringing in new aircraft and surface-to-surface missile ostensibly for transfer to Syrian forces but in reality under direct Russian control. According to estimates in the Iranian media, Russia now has some 20,000 military “technicians and advisors” in Syria.

    The stage is set for the full Putin treatment. Russia no doubt looks to the 1920s scheme under which Syria was divided into five segments, with France, then the colonial power, retaining direct control only of the area between the mountains west of Damascus and the Mediterranean coast. The French called that “la Syrie utile” (useful Syria) allowing the rest of the country, much of it thinly inhabited desert to morph into ungoverned territory.

    Accounting for about 15% of territory, “Useful Syria” is now home to more than half of the population, partly thanks to influx of displaced people from other parts of the country. The strip between the coast and the mountains has the added advantage of being the principal base of the Alawite community to which Assad and his clan belong.

    Get ready for Russia to cast itself as the protector, not only of the Alawites but also of other minorities such as Turcoman, Armenians and, more interestingly for Moscow, Orthodox Christians who have fled Islamist terror groups such as ISIS.

    Russia has always seen itself as the “Third Rome” and the last standard-bearer of Christianity against both Catholic “deviation” and Islamist menace.

    By controlling a new mini-state, as a “safe haven for minorities,” Russia could insist that if Syria returns to some normality it be reconstituted as a highly decentralized state. This is what Putin is also demanding in Georgia and Ukraine.

    The Syrian coast will become another Crimea, if not completely annexed, at least occupied.

    Unless stopped, the Putin treatment will not end in Syria. The two next candidates could be Moldova and Latvia, both of which have large Russian-speaking minorities.

    On Friday, Russian fighter jets arrived in Syria. US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter responded by saying he had a “constructive conversation” with his Russian counterpart, who insisted the buildup was “defensive in nature.” Carter said discussions would continue. In other words, Russia will continue to carve a foothold on the Mediterranean.

    While President Obama practices a postmodern diplomacy of perceptions — in other words window-dressing — Putin perfects his pre-modern power play.

    Putin has arranged it so that no matter what happens in Syria, he wins — and we lose.
    In #Syria, #Putin will be "protecting" Russian-speaking "volunteers" (aka soldiers) from multitudes of Russian-speaking #ISIS members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Syria #Idlib Regime use ceasefire to parachute ammo/weapons into besieged Shiite enclave
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkN68PNbLU
    -battle of #FuahKafraya-

    Syria #Idlib View from highest point on Tell al-Khirbah toward #Fuah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGE71SBApw

    Syria #FSA shelling #Assad-suburb at western entrance of #Aleppo with hell cannons
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6g0o6Odg0Q
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36...83042&z=16&m=b

    New batch of 75 #US-trained fighters (Division 30) entered northern #Syria with 12 technicals
    WHO trained them as the CENTCOM Commander failed to mention them in his Congressional hearing this week?????

    Syria #Aleppo From frontline in Khalidiya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbb8D6nKgQghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LO3lZkOBIQ
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36...24283&z=16&m=b

    Syria #Aleppo Huge car-bomb explode inside #IS held town Harbul
    -rebels send them a present
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPrhI1C-voM

    Almost daily reports of tanks & BMPs being destroyed by JAI using ATGMs around Dahiya al-Assad in #Damascus, vids would be nice
    New Tank Identification Guide for Rebels : How to determine if your target is crewed by SAA or Russians
    Recognition poster----

    pic.twitter.com/TXIIlLCd31

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    Footage
    Just another barrel bomb, falling on civilians in #Aleppo.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kLe3_UmRfc
    pic.twitter.com/k1ZnZwsR8p

    BreakingVideo
    #Assad' air force drops bomb after bomb on densely populated areas in #Aleppo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0dFJypXIz4 … pic.twitter.com/4kgkUgygpt

    Update #map #Fuah #kafarya #Idlib #Syria #opposition #Regime #FatehArmy #ANF #JAN #FSA pic.twitter.com/2qImrZdhmp

    Most probable source of #Russia|n Air Force Su-30SMs at #Latakia now seems to be 412th Aviation Base at Domna.

    U.S.-trained Syrian fighters say their chief of staff resigned pic.twitter.com/H3pdCJD6H6 http://voc.tv/1YroVLc

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    Syria Regime helicopter dropped a barrel bomb on Sakhour neighborhood in Aleppo.
    http://youtu.be/_kLe3_UmRfc

    Assad helicopter dropped barrel bombs on Bustan al-Pasha & Huluk district in Aleppo. #Syria
    http://youtu.be/AnWG5mvLTsU

    Imagine living under the roar of warplanes, bombing your city daily, non-stop for nearly 4 years. #Douma #Syria
    http://youtu.be/gQ0aXu2r6gM

    Clear video shows a regime warplane drop a bomb on Bustan al-Qasr district in Aleppo. #Syria
    http://youtu.be/U0dFJypXIz4

    Syria #Latakia mountain-warfare
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQMgWHVaKs

    Syria #Idlib trench-warfare -battle of #FuahKafraya-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTxEAEMZM-I

    MAP (+ Report) for the battle of #FuahKafraya in North #Idlib.
    http://archicivilians.com/2015/09/20...-september-20/

    Syria #Idlib #JaF-commander accused Shiite-forces to violate ceasefire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkN68PNbLU … … -battle of #FuahKafraya

    Syria #Idlib #JaF-fighter equiped with Steyr Aug rifle -battle of #FuahKafraya-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwUTuHKZmRM

    Syria #Homs From battlefield in #Houla region
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4bo...ature=youtu.be
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=34...22675&z=13&m=b
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    In the north, ceasefire reached for: Foua; kafraya; Binnish; Taftanaz; Taoum; Maarat Misrin; the city of Idlib; Ram Hamdan; Zardana; Shelikh

    A 25-point ceasefire+agreement between Jaish al-Fateh (Nusra included) & Iran has been announced. Agreement is to be overseen by the UN.

    Fighters from Zabadani should leave with their guns and a pack bag, and all heavy weapons to be destroyed. UN to oversee agreement.

    The first phase will see ceasefire & then 6-month agreement, in the south: Zabadani; Madhaya; Baqeen; Sarghaya & surrounding regime bases

    The strict destination of those leaving Zabadani (fighters+families+wounded) must be to Idlib.

    More remarkably, the agreement stipulates that the regime will not fly helicopters or planes in those areas including to drop aid. NFZ!!

    Women and children under 18 or men above 50 can leave Foua and Kafraya but they should not be more than 10,000. Regime release 500 prisoners

    "Government of Iran" will work with Lebanon to bring back families that fled "illegally" to Lebanon, but must be no more than 50 families.

    Agreement also includes: no arms depots near frontlines; no humanitarian blockade on Foua+Kafraya or blockade to Madhaya+Baqeen+Serghaya.
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    ISIS terror group related accounts now sharing pic of "head of 1st russian soldier". Fairy-tales of Russian propaganda are real in Syria

    Russian tanker refueling jets over #Homs, #Syria https://youtu.be/6JYEmXJ60Yc

    Russian cargo plane Ilyushın II 76 - T on #Damascus sky, now. #Syria pic.twitter.com/0cSrHg4JB8
    It appears the aircraft was in fact an aircraft fueler-----definitely not humanitarian aid

    Putin overseeing war game simulating battle with terrorists. Any resemblance to #Syria is coincidental, speculative. pic.twitter.com/krhiemPtaI
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    ISIS terror group related accounts now sharing pic of "head of 1st russian soldier". Fairy-tales of Russian propaganda are real in Syria

    Russian tanker refueling jets over #Homs, #Syria https://youtu.be/6JYEmXJ60Yc

    Russian cargo plane Ilyushın II 76 - T on #Damascus sky, now. #Syria pic.twitter.com/0cSrHg4JB8
    It appears the aircraft was in fact an aircraft fueler-----definitely not humanitarian aid

    Putin overseeing war game simulating battle with terrorists. Any resemblance to #Syria is coincidental, speculative. pic.twitter.com/krhiemPtaI
    Looks like a Russian Spetsnaz was killed and beheaded if the reporting here is correct.

    THERE had been early last week a report of 10 Russian bodies being returned to Crimea but the report was largely ignored.

    Russia(n) Special Forces in #Syria in #Zabadani,#Homs,#Hama & #Aleppo https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2015/...ma-and-aleppo/ … pic.twitter.com/v80szhwNK7

    •Moscow began “quiet support” to the Syrian regime
    •A Russian “stormy support” would follow to regain the initiative on the ground and recovery main cities

    http://www.alraimedia.com/ar/article...20996/nr/syria
    Damascus – Elijah J. Magnier:

    “Al-Rai” learned that “Special Elite Russian combat forces arrived to Hama, Aleppo, Homs, Damascus, as well as Zabadani to monitor, participate and study the military map on the field and suggest future workflow Combat plans. These Special Forces submit to the operating room suggestions to determine the full plan to start the flow of further Russian special combat forces and troops on the battlefield all over the Syrian map where it is necessary”.

    This development will be the largest Russian external military intervention since Afghanistan in 1979.

    A very senior field commander around Zabadani city said that “there are small Russian combat units, mostly sniper unit that we call the “Ivan unit”, another reconnaissance unit, a unit of urban warfare, and advanced missiles unit in the area of ​operations run by the Syrian Army. ”

    Ivan and Yulia belong to a Russian sniper unit that came recently to Zabadani. At the end of the day, the team left after shooting 4 deadly bullets. “I return to Aleppo where there is more action than Zabadani. Here there isn’t much left”, said Yulia before leaving Zabadani, according to the source.

    “Russia is beginning with what we define as a” quiet support ” supplying advanced technology and preparing a spearhead force before reaching a further level we call the” stormy Support “. We expect a large presence of troops that will be supported by Russian Air Force. There are around 2500 Russian fighters, military expert and consultant in Syria. The number is expected to go much higher in the near future “, confirm the source that is in contact with the Russian units on the Syrian ground.

    “There are two aspects for the Russian intervention in Syria: In the first, the front line should be reinforced, maintained and is expected later to recover more lands and lost cities. The second is to hunt and bomb the Islamic State (ISIS) group leaders as well as other extremist groups in Syria, without exception. There are no red lines for the Russian operational tactics against terrorism that may extend to Iraq if necessary. The Kremlin has decided to face and fight terrorism by all means and is determine to eliminate, not to contain, ISIS. The Russians are aware of the necessity of cooperation with the U.S. led coalition over the sky of Syria to prevent unnecessarily accidents “, the source said.

    The senior commander explained, “Israel and the United States are also concerned about the possibility that Hezbollah could benefit from the advanced Russian military equipment pouring into Syria. As far as it concerns us, Damascus and Hezbollah are strategically linked and share the same destiny. Any sophisticated weapon owned by Syria and Iran that an organized but irregular force, like Hezbollah, can use in case of war against Israel is already in our possession. Israel is raising the alarm by saying that its “national security” could be in jeopardy if Hezbollah has this or that technology or could benefit from Russia’s presence to transport more weapons into Lebanon. Russia’s answer is that its own national security is already in jeopardy due to terrorism expansion. Russia is not fighting a battle but a war on terror on Syrian soil and elsewhere and is present in a hostile environment. Russia will pursue and won’t give up upon in this war, in Syria, regardless any possible international pressure to persuade it otherwise”.
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    Obama and Kerry should reread this comment from above---that is the Russian strategy clear and as concise as one wants it---

    There are two aspects for the Russian intervention in Syria: In the first, the front line should be reinforced, maintained and is expected later to recover more lands and lost cities. The second is to hunt and bomb the Islamic State (ISIS) group leaders as well as other extremist groups in Syria, without exception. There are no red lines for the Russian operational tactics against terrorism that may extend to Iraq if necessary. The Kremlin has decided to face and fight terrorism by all means and is determine to eliminate, not to contain, ISIS. The Russians are aware of the necessity of cooperation with the U.S. led coalition over the sky of Syria to prevent unnecessarily accidents “, the source said.

    SO now is the US providing air cover and tactical ground support to Russian special forces??????

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    Another air refueling by Russian air tanker----
    I have to say: The footage is #unconfirmed.
    But: similar video from yesterday
    : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ksdh38h5-I … pic.twitter.com/aV8MJhPXCX

    Syria, #FSA The First Coastal Division infography https://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2...on-infography/

    Syria #Damascus #JaI destroyed T-72 tank in #Assad-suburb
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHTTQNQjWs0
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=33...78500&z=16&m=b

    Massive multiple explosions rocking north #Aleppo countryside and near #Kilis..

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    Russian AIr force over Syria. You can hear their radio coms in background.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JYEmXJ60Yc

    I would say, this is one Il-78 "Midas" and four Su-24 "Fencer".
    Any other suggestions?!

    Well. Acc. to video filmers, planes fly N-W over Talbisah.
    So rather ferry from Damascus to the coastal regions.

    Any previous images/data of SyAAF escorting Russian transports in/out of #Syria?


    Similar video from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ksdh38h5-I … pic.twitter.com/aV8MJhPXCX
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    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...talks-weakness

    Obama’s Pathetic Cave-in to Putin’s Power Play in Syria

    Elliott Abrams

    September 18, 2015 4:26 PM

    There is a complaint against Obama foreign policy that goes “all our allies have been alienated, and are scared by the lack of American leadership and our indifference to their security, and all Obama does is cozy up to our enemies.” Jeb Bush has asked audiences, “Name a country where we have a better relationship now than we did seven years ago,” and audiences answer back “Iran!” In pursing this policy of cooperating with our enemies rather than our friends, Obama is now going to include the horrific issue of Syria. A central pillar of American foreign policy for over 50 years has been to keep the Russians out of the Middle East. Now we appear to be welcoming their return as a military power there. The Obama reaction has been first to have Secretary of State John Kerry telephone Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov to express concern, then to have Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter call his own Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, and next to have military-to-military talks with Russia.

    This is amazing. It undermines a half-century of policy and broadcasts weakness and irresolution to both enemies (Iran, China) and friends (Israel, Jordan, Egypt, the Gulf states). But it certainly isn’t surprising: Weakness and irresolution have in fact been the heart of U.S. policy in Syria in the Obama years. When the (mostly Sunni) people of Syria rose up peacefully against the Alawite, Iran-and-Hezbollah backed Assad regime in 2011 and Assad began to kill his own population, Obama did nothing. As the deaths mounted and his own advisers — Clinton, Panetta, Petraeus, Dempsey — advised action to build a non-jihadi rebel force, he did nothing. When Assad did not react to Obama’s chemical-weapons red line, Obama backed down, not Assad. And so the deaths and the refugees have mounted into a humanitarian catastrophe that was avoidable. Now Putin has made his move, and he is not showing weakness and irresolution. Moreover, the growth of ISIS is impossible to imagine absent this Obama policy. It is only because the Shiite-backed Assad regime is killing Sunnis by the tens and hundreds of thousands while we and the rest of the world watch impassively that ISIS has been able to rally so many Sunnis to its banner. Any pretended “way forward” or “diplomatic solution” to Syria that addresses ISIS but not the Assad regime will fail, because the regime’s murderous brutality — including its continuing use of chemical weapons — guarantees more recruits for ISIS.

    Continued…………………………………….
    Scathing. Knowing real things not popular anymore- How the Decline of International Studies Hurts American Security https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...tional-studies

    Real reason Netanyahu's going to Moscow tomorrow is he can't trust US to do anything in Syria, so he's got no choice but to turn to Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
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    Russian AIr force over Syria. You can hear their radio coms in background.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JYEmXJ60Yc

    I would say, this is one Il-78 "Midas" and four Su-24 "Fencer".
    Any other suggestions?!

    Well. Acc. to video filmers, planes fly N-W over Talbisah.
    So rather ferry from Damascus to the coastal regions.

    Any previous images/data of SyAAF escorting Russian transports in/out of #Syria?


    Similar video from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ksdh38h5-I … pic.twitter.com/aV8MJhPXCX
    Fencers with 35degrees wing angle (subsonic flight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Crow Bat--remember our dialogue on the Russian AD systems in Syria??

    Remember I mentioned that the S300s were inbound---now the question is just where are they physically in Syria--- not a question of if they are.

    @finriswolf · Sep 18
    Can someone else please ID this equipment - because I *can't*

    It is a clam shell 76N6 low altitude acquisition radar towers with support equipment for S300 missiles

    @finriswolf @hdevreij "S300 in Syria
    "

    HERE though is the UNLESS--the missiles are not there but the command and control equipment is in order to tie into the latest low level Russian AD systems they have sent into the 200s series (really a S300 series) the Syrians have already.

    That would give you an integrated, layers and overlapping AD system in the Russian doctrinal sense--coupled with the SU-30s--fully capable of threatening the US and denying the West the ability to setup a NFZ.
    Where's the link?

    That said, there are 12 Su-24M2s at Bassel Assad IAP meanwhile. Apparently together with 4 Su-30Ms and a battalion equipped with early warning radars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    •Moscow began “quiet support” to the Syrian regime
    Moscow is providing 'quiet support' for Assad already since 2011...

    •A Russian “stormy support” would follow to regain the initiative on the ground and recovery main cities
    Looking forward for that, really.

    For two years, the IRGC-QF - a force with far more extensive 'in situ' experience and better connections to locals than Russians can ever dream about - was trying to make do with 4-5 'brigades' only (including its own regulars and whatever it could recruit elsewhere). It was all the time struggling to compensate lack of firepower and supplies with superior tactics. It gave up this spring.

    If Russians think they'll do better with a regiment - or even a reinforced brigade - they are more than welcome to try.

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    This is going to get very ugly very soon for Russian ground troops—the first rocket attack against their airbase was the first indicator---

    News
    Syrian rebels hope for another "#Afghanistan" as Russian troops invade #Syria
    .
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...Name=worldNews

    Tymchuk: Russia sent another trainload of weapons & ammunition to its forces in Ukraine and will redeploy 190 of it’s mercenaries to #Syria.

    According to Tymchuk the Don cossacks based in #Luhansk area received orders to send back 190 fighters to RU to further transfer to Syria.

    1,700 #Russia troops fixing up #Syria port facility. But "no link" to upcoming intervention, says General Staff. http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2814812

    Begs the question--just how many Russian troops does it take to swap out a light bulb?

    1699 with 1 holding the ladder steady=1700

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    SO exchange for assisting Assad Russia gets what????--unlimited right t drll for oil and gas???

    Russian company Soyuzneftegaz started drilling operations in #Syria near Latakia according to a report

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    This article needs to be seriously read by Obama, Kerry and the entire 700 person NSC.

    http://www.mei.edu/content/at/more-r...nt=buffer79a0e

    More Russian Aid to Assad: Chasing the Impossible Dream

    By Robert S. Ford | Senior Fellow - The Middle East Institute
    Sep 15, 2015
    Russia’s recent increase in military aid to the Syrian government is an extension of previous Russian policy on Syria; what is different is not the thrust of Russian policy but the scale of the aid. This ramp-up carries new risks to those hoping for a real political solution to the longstanding Syrian conflict and to those hoping to see the threat of terror groups operating in Syria contained. There is little likelihood of a major U.S.-Russia military confrontation over Syria, but the likely Russian game plan carries new risks for the American administration seeking to contain the Islamic State and eventually see stability restored in Syria.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov himself observed that Russian military assistance to Syria is not new. Indeed, the Syrian Air Force's helicopters and jets that have intensively bombarded Syrian cities are Russian. The Syrian Army has for decades used Russian armor. The Syrian government now has very few foreign exchange reserves, and it is unclear how it can pay the Russians for the new equipment. The new build-up may well have figured on the agenda of the visit of Iranian point man on Syria, Revolutionary Guards Quds Force Commander Qassem Suleimani, to Moscow earlier in the summer.

    Russian policy since the outbreak of the Syrian revolution has been consistent: it may not agree with all the regime's brutality, but it seeks to preserve the Syrian state as a Russian ally and as a pillar against Islamic extremists. Moscow sees no alternative to keeping President Bashar al-Assad in place to preserve the state. Unlike the Americans, the Russians won't stipulate that their formal aid program be used only against the Islamic State. The Russians have always perceived the broader armed opposition to the Syrian government to be illegitimate. They especially condemn Islamist rebels, making little distinction between conservative Islamists, such as those in the Islamic Front, and jihadi groups such as al-Qa‘ida's Nusra Front and the Islamic State. In Moscow's eyes, they all are terrorists. The Russian policy goal in Syria is for the (flagging) Syrian government's army to join with remaining secular elements in the Syrian opposition and with help from the international community destroy the Islamist armed groups in Syria.
    The Russians tried to sell this idea to selected Syrian opposition groups in a series of discussions in Moscow dating back to January 2015. The Russians even made clear that they would not object to some changes in the Syrian government, but they never urged that Assad himself be compelled to leave or that Assad's intelligence/security apparatus, whose brutality started the conflict in 2011 and with which the Russians have a longstanding relationship, be substantially changed. The Russian ideas got little traction, aside from some of the tamest elements of the Syrian opposition that carry no influence with any rebel fighting factions.

    After reaching a dead end with the Syrian opposition, the Russians tried to convince Saudi Arabia and Western countries that Assad and his government should be integrated into the U.S.-led coalition's campaign against the Islamic State. The Russians make a legalistic argument based on the sovereignty of the Syrian state. While Iran enthusiastically supports the Russian idea, and has floated its own peace proposal for Syria close to what the Russians envision, the Saudis were not receptive. Lavrov mumbling that the Saudis were "idiots" when he thought he was off-mike at a joint press conference with Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir in August probably didn't help the Russian diplomatic effort.
    If the thrust of Russian policy is consistent, the question remains why the Russians have changed the scale and tempo of their military assistance. The Russian aid at least in part is to bolster a weakening Syrian government. Assad himself in a national speech on July 26 admitted that his army was tiring and had to retreat from some parts of the country to continue to defend the more vital areas. The shift in battlefield dynamics in 2015 has been as remarkable as it was unexpected to many analysts.

    The Russians’ long game is also likely the same: preserve the Syrian state, which they perceive in turn requires keeping Assad in place, and working with the Americans and countries in the region, and with cooperative Syrians (including the acceptable opposition), allow Syrians themselves to tinker with the nametags in the lesser parts of the Syrian government. Greater Russian assistance would also perhaps boost Russian influence in any diplomatic talks at the expense of Iran, which many Syrians and foreign states perceive holds preeminent sway in Damascus.

    The immediate impact of the Russian escalation will be increased hard fighting; the Syrian armed opposition is not going to stop attacking the Syrian government's positions even if the Russians intervene directly with their own forces. It is unlikely that the opposition's principal foreign backers in Ankara, Riyadh, and Doha will halt their aid to the rebels either. Countries like Turkey understand how lethal force and diplomacy are not mutually exclusive but rather can blend together in finding satisfactory political deals. They will understand that Russia seeks to exploit an improved military standing to strengthen its position in any subsequent negotiations.

    As Washington considers its own options, it faces significant constraints. Unless it threatens drastic action against Baghdad—with all the implications of the effort against the Islamic State there—the Iranian-Iraqi airspace corridor is open full-time for Russian urgent air shipments. Russian President Putin has noticed that unlike in Afghanistan, the Americans won't transfer surface-to-air missiles to the Syrian rebels. Thus, if Putin decides that direct Russian air involvement in the Syrian fighting is necessary to secure Russian goals, he will expect fewer immediate operational risks than his predecessors in Afghanistan did.

    Some in Washington may wonder if the United States should join with the Russian military against the Islamic State. This is an extension of the idea of joining with Assad against the Islamic State, and carries even more risks. First, as should be evident by now, air strikes against the Islamic State will not destroy it. Second, given the Russian perception that Islamist fighters are basically indistinguishable and that one of Russia’s goals is to bolster the tiring Syrian military against its enemies, Russian direct military action would probably eventually extend to non-jihadi elements of the armed opposition such as the Islamic Front's factions. American cooperation with Russia would mean in turn that those groups would reject American-trained Syrian fighters whose goal is only to fight the Islamic State. We already have seen the fierce reaction of the Nusra Front to American-trained fighters from the opposition’s 30th division. Yet the only realistic option to contain and ultimately eliminate the Islamic Front in Syria is Syrian fighters.Finally, the American administration will have to consider how to respond to what are likely to be greater Russian efforts to sell Russian/Iranian ideas about the contours of a peace deal in Syria. It will be important to remember that even if its foreign allies accept Assad staying in a transition role, the Syrian armed opposition no longer will, and there are enough weapons floating around Syria and Iraq to sustain fighting for a long time. The Russian goal of maintaining the existing Syrian state with a few cosmetic changes and bolstering the flagging Syrian government military with help from secular oppositionists is impossible; secular rebel fighters such as those operating in Hama, Dara‘a, and Homs won't join an Assad military effort, ever. For better or worse, Assad has become a symbol among opposition ranks. Even Assad's core constituency, the Syrian Alawi community, is growing weary of the Syrian president.

    And if the existing Syrian Army with its Hezbollah allies can't even retake the largely flattened town of Zabadani on the Lebanese border, what are the chances that they could move hundreds of miles east across unfriendly territories to secure central and eastern Syria from the Islamic State? And should the Russians send in small numbers of ground forces to help, would Washington perceive that to be helpful in cutting jihadi recruitment, restoring stability in Syria, and staunching the refugee outflow? It is hard to see how pragmatists in the administration could answer yes to these questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Moscow is providing 'quiet support' for Assad already since 2011...

    Looking forward for that, really.

    For two years, the IRGC-QF - a force with far more extensive 'in situ' experience and better connections to locals than Russians can ever dream about - was trying to make do with 4-5 'brigades' only (including its own regulars and whatever it could recruit elsewhere). It was all the time struggling to compensate lack of firepower and supplies with superior tactics. It gave up this spring.

    If Russians think they'll do better with a regiment - or even a reinforced brigade - they are more than welcome to try.

    Agree ---if the existing Syrian Army with its Hezbollah allies can't even retake the largely flattened town of Zabadani on the Lebanese border, what are the chances that they could move hundreds of miles east across unfriendly territories to secure central and eastern Syria from the Islamic State with whatever the number of Russian troops that are provided?

    Valid point--only if one looks at Chechnya and eastern Ukraine--Russian flattens everything in their way ---valid question is if there is not a high number of troops on the ground then it must be done by BM30s and airstrikes.

    It is estimated Russia has already 20K plus troops in the country in a largely support role--BUT what if they flip the roles and merge with two brigades of Russian Spetsnaz/marine/airborne combat experienced units from the Ukraine that are inbound???

    The Ukrainian military is reporting that Russian mercenaries are now reshifting to Syria--the first being 190 Don Cossacks who have been alerted to move to Syria.

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    This article contains some really good Russian social media links to support their OSINT work in the article.

    https://en.informnapalm.org/russian-...iysk-to-syria/

    Russian Military Assignment from Novorossiysk to Syria

    Russian Military Assessment

    47 mins ago

    During the recent several days the rumor concerning the Russian military participation in the Syrian conflict has been actively discussed in the international press. A lot was written and shown on this topic. Our attention was drawn by the material located on the website of some Ivan Sidorenko entitled ‘Syria, Latakia – Syrian Arab Army / National Defense Forces Some Battle Footage from Today‘

    This material contains several noteworthy moments, in particular the offscreen negotiation in Russian: time 2:03 – ‘Come on faster’, 2:06 – ‘Move on’, 2:10 – ‘Once again! Repeat!’, 2:30 – ‘Paulin, Paulin, we are moving forward’. In addition to that, the Soviet/Russian armed vehicles are shown. However, this is not strange. There is no secret that Assad’s army both previously and now is armed by the Kremlin friends and the deployment is provided with the use of the Russian large landing ships mainly from the Novorossiysk naval base.

    The most attention was drawn by the armored fighting vehicle BTR-82А in standard Russian colors seen in the clip, time 0:40–0:43, 1:15–1:20 and 2:15–2:22. The armored fighting vehicles of this modification were put into service by the Russian army only several years ago. A number of the Russian military units are long waiting for the new armored fighting vehicles to replace old amortized junk.

    It is known that the armored fighting vehicles BTR-82А were taken into use mainly by priority Russian military units, motorized rifle and intelligence brigade battalions. In the Southern Military District units these are the 7th occupational military base (occupied Abkhazia, Georgia), the 136th brigade (Republic of Dagestan), the 20th brigade (Republic of Chechnya); in the Central Military District – the 15th ‘Peacemakers’ brigade (Roshchinskiy, Samara Oblast), the 23rd brigade (Totskoye, Orenburg Oblast); in the Western Military District – the 27th brigade (Mosrentgen, Moscow Oblast).

    As a result of the shallow analysis and comparison of the BTR-82А, seen in the material from Syria with similar vehicles that are in use in the above mentioned Russian military units, the closest similarity was found with the armored fighting vehicles of the 27th motorized rifle brigade (military unit No. 61899, located in the Moscow region).

    In particular, in the group ‘Military unit 61899 Sevastopol 27 OMSBR. Brothers-in-arms’ the pictures of the BTR-82А with camouflage and board numbers of white color written according to the pattern identical with this brigade were found.

    Notice: In different military units the camouflage of the vehicles and the pattern of writing board numbers are different. For instance, BTR of the 23th brigade has numbers written with red paint whereas BTR of the 7th military base has numbers written with white paint in bold.

    The identification shown by us is not the evidence, but a number of side criteria – identical camouflage, commonly recognized type of vehicles board numbering in the Russian army, identical patterns of the fonts and colors and also the offscreen Russian voice confirms the supposition made above. Maybe soon we will learn more details concerning ‘a military assignment from Novorossiysk to Syria’ of the crew of the 1st vehicle from the 1st motorized rifle regiment, 1st battalion of the 27th brigade.

    P.S. Update: As a result of the additional OSINT investigation the correspondence concerning the sending of the servicemen to Syria for 3–4 month long trips with ‘not bad salaries’ was found on the mother forum of the Russian military servicemen from the 27th separate motorized rifle brigade (February, 2013).

    Thus, we have one more indirect proof that the video from Syria supposedly shows a BTR-82А unit of the Russian 27th brigade on the ‘Novo-Syrian’ assignment, rumored way back in 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    SO exchange for assisting Assad Russia gets what????--unlimited right t drll for oil and gas???

    Russian company Soyuzneftegaz started drilling operations in #Syria near Latakia according to a report
    Drilling for oil in Syria is one story; exploiting that oil - entirely different one. Just ask the Croatian company INA (i.e. INA's Hungarian quasi-owners).

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Agree ---if the existing Syrian Army with its Hezbollah allies can't even retake the largely flattened town of Zabadani on the Lebanese border, what are the chances that they could move hundreds of miles east across unfriendly territories to secure central and eastern Syria from the Islamic State with whatever the number of Russian troops that are provided?

    Valid point--only if one looks at Chechnya and eastern Ukraine--Russian flattens everything in their way ---valid question is if there is not a high number of troops on the ground then it must be done by BM30s and airstrikes.
    Then you have an even better example - and then one that saw the first significant Russian involvement in this war (arguably, the latter was completely ignored by all of the West, its glorious media and all the fancy blogs...):

    Ever heard of some place called Douma?

    Douma didn't fall after three years of 'drive throughs' by tanks of the (former) Republican Guards Division, sporadic aerial bombardment, and nearly uninterrupted artillery shelling. Then the Russian combat engineers were sent in, early this year. Russians flattened most of the place - and about 800 insurgents are still holding out there.

    ...BTW BM-30s were deployed in Syria too, already. More specifically: in Homs, and then in Aleppo. In Homs, insurgents gave up only after negotiations - and were then granted free withdrawal to Rastan/Talbiseh Pocket. And in Aleppo... well, it should be know that Aleppo is not only holding out, but meanwhile it's the regime that's in deep trouble there...

    It is estimated Russia has already 20K plus troops in the country in a largely support role--BUT what if they flip the roles and merge with two brigades of Russian Spetsnaz/marine/airborne combat experienced units from the Ukraine that are inbound???
    Again: I'm very much looking forward to see that happen.

    I'm especially curious to see where are Russians going to do 'much better' than 2 brigades of IRGC regulars, 3 brigades of US-trained Iraqi veterans, 2 brigades of Afghan veterans (latter 5 all run by the IRGC-QF), and 3 brigades of Hezbollah - all of them supported by all the heavy weaponry of the former Republican Guards Division and the 4th Armoured that's still around...

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