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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    In the same report and largely overlooked is the figure of 18,000 ultra rightists of which 12,000 are seen as ready to use violence...with a strong increase in ultra right violent acts in this year.....far more than anything from jihadists.....

    Interestingly is the number of ultra leftists.....which has remained steady with attacks from the ultra left actually decreasing....

    Part of the problem is that while German security is constantly watching jihadists it is losing the oversight of ultra right and left....

    Germany warns about increased spy activity of Russia & China as well as Turkey & Iran before G20
    The head of the BfV, Maassen, stated that Islamist terrorism is the BfV's "biggest challenge", not right-wing or left-wing terrorism, or foreign intelligence operations such as Russia's active measures. As head of the BfV since 2012, Maassen would know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    The head of the BfV, Maassen, stated that Islamist terrorism is the BfV's "biggest challenge", not right-wing or left-wing terrorism, or foreign intelligence operations such as Russia's active measures. As head of the BfV since 2012, Maassen would know.
    THEN you are missing the massive fighting ongoing in Hamburg from these not so called left wing terrorists.....right now there are ongoing "true street battles" in a guerrilla hit and run style...

    Things are really getting ugly in Hamburg, with violent G20 protests (mostly hardcore antifas) doing real damage.

    Per German media coverage, Melania's hotel was besieged, 160+ police injured, and lots of things are on fire.

    Police won't clear @FLOTUS to leave residence in Hamburg right now b/c of protests, her spox confirms: ""It's unfortunate."

    However, the actual situation in Hamburg is a good deal worse than the media is reporting. My friends in German intel/LE have the goods.

    I've known them for years; they tell me that police from all over Germany are being dispatched to Hamburg before the #G20 gets overrun.

    Situation is so serious that Berlin has secretly ordered military units (incl armor) to Hamburg in case things get totally out of hand.

    Several Hamburg-area hospitals are already overflowing with casualties; others have been placed on war/mass casualty footing, in prep.

    Three highly trained and very experienced anti riot police teams have headed to Hamburg and it is not even night time yet where then it will be getting worse...if last night was any indcator


    Three major violence focused left groups are involved....antifa, automone, and anarchists.....rumors are that there are left radical groups that have joined them out of Greece and Sweden and Spain.....estimates indicate a total of roughly 10,000 radical leftists ready for violence...facing an equal number of police for a total of 20,000 mixing it up on the streets..

    German BfV ie their MI5 have reported the arrests of radicals out of France, Netherland and Switzerland....and that a large number from outside Germany arrived over the last weeks to avoid border controls....

    They are mixing themselves into peaceful G20 demonstrators then they hit and run out of that peaceful group on the police creating a large amount of chaos and confusion....

    Reporting press is trying to stay close to the events but move out of the way immediately when the "radicals show up"....the radicals are now being called the "Black Bloc"...

    Right now it is one massive cat and mouse game underway with a certain level of violence not seen for a long time in Germany AND it is not coming from jihadists....

    REMEMBER violence directed against the government is shared by both the extreme right and extreme left....the extreme right attacks government objects ie buildings etc....the extreme left attacks representatives of the government ie the police .....both share though a general hatred of the government ........
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    THEN you are missing the massive fighting ongoing in Hamburg from these not so called left wing terrorists.....right now there are ongoing "true street battles" in a guerrilla hit and run style...

    Things are really getting ugly in Hamburg, with violent G20 protests (mostly hardcore antifas) doing real damage.

    Per German media coverage, Melania's hotel was besieged, 160+ police injured, and lots of things are on fire.

    Police won't clear @FLOTUS to leave residence in Hamburg right now b/c of protests, her spox confirms: ""It's unfortunate."

    However, the actual situation in Hamburg is a good deal worse than the media is reporting. My friends in German intel/LE have the goods.

    I've known them for years; they tell me that police from all over Germany are being dispatched to Hamburg before the #G20 gets overrun.

    Situation is so serious that Berlin has secretly ordered military units (incl armor) to Hamburg in case things get totally out of hand.

    Several Hamburg-area hospitals are already overflowing with casualties; others have been placed on war/mass casualty footing, in prep.

    Three highly trained and very experienced anti riot police teams have headed to Hamburg and it is not even night time yet where then it will be getting worse...if last night was any indcator


    Three major violence focused left groups are involved....antifa, automone, and anarchists.....rumors are that there are left radical groups that have joined them out of Greece and Sweden and Spain.....estimates indicate a total of roughly 10,000 radical leftists ready for violence...facing an equal number of police for a total of 20,000 mixing it up on the streets..

    German BfV ie their MI5 have reported the arrests of radicals out of France, Netherland and Switzerland....and that a large number from outside Germany arrived over the last weeks to avoid border controls....

    They are mixing themselves into peaceful G20 demonstrators then they hit and run out of that peaceful group on the police creating a large amount of chaos and confusion....

    Reporting press is trying to stay close to the events but move out of the way immediately when the "radicals show up"....the radicals are now being called the "Black Bloc"...

    Right now it is one massive cat and mouse game underway with a certain level of violence not seen for a long time in Germany AND it is not coming from jihadists....

    REMEMBER violence directed against the government is shared by both the extreme right and extreme left....the extreme right attacks government objects ie buildings etc....the extreme left attacks representatives of the government ie the police .....both share though a general hatred of the government ........
    Yawn. This is par for the course when G20 Summits come to town. It's a traveling circus. I'll stick with what Herrs Maassen and de Maziere are saying, thank you.

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    BERLIN (Reuters) - German police seized large quantities of guns and ammunition in raids on four locations in Berlin linked to a 40-year-old German man with suspected Islamist ties, the Berlin prosecutor’s office said on Wednesday.

    The man, a German citizen with a Turkish background, had previously been convicted of weapons violations, and frequented a mosque which was under surveillance by state security, said prosecutor spokeswoman Silke Becker.
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    More revelations about the Berlin truck attacker, just as the first anniversary comes, on the 19th December. The title and sub-title says enough:
    Christmas market terrorist Anis Amri may have been used as 'lure': German newspaper According to data obtained by Welt newspaper, German authorities knew more than a year in advance that Anis Amri presented a clear danger. Intelligence services may have hoped that he would lead them to other terrorists.
    Link:http://www.dw.com/en/christmas-marke...per/a-41828681
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    Default Only half of 'dangerous' Islamists actually dangerous - German police

    Odd timing for such an article after recent publicity over the mistakes made, but this is Germany. At a minimum it is a pointer to the assessment tool developed and in use. Here is a key phrase:
    But it's no great skill to identify people who are highly violent...The skill is in categorizing the people who are not dangerous among the people defined as endangerers.
    Link:http://www.dw.com/en/only-half-of-da...ce/a-41848406?
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    Via Twitter @Joseph_Roehmel reports:
    Majority of German foreign fighter returnees walk free due to lack of evidences and incentives for key witnesses. State of Bavaria, for example, imprisoned 3 of 22 returnees, Hamburg only 1 of 25!
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    German Chancellor Angela Merkel made a major concession to Europe's populist movement this week when she admitted the existence of so-called “no-go zones” in Germany.
    Conservatives and populists have long warned of the existence of such zones as the partial consequence of mass Muslim migration from the Middle East and Africa, particularly after Merkel opened Germany’s borders in 2015 as a response to the Syrian refugee crisis. Such areas are said to be dogged by high-levels of crime and are described as "no-go zones" because outsiders, including police and other authorities, are unable to enter.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/03...n-germany.html

    By The Associated Press
    BERLIN — Feb 28, 2018, 11:58 AM ET
    In an interview Monday with German broadcaster n-tv, Merkel said she favors a zero tolerance policy on crime and that includes preventing no-go areas, "that's areas where nobody dares to go."
    She added: "There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them."
    Asked to name the areas, Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert told reporters Wednesday that "the chancellor's words speak for themselves."
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...-go-areas.html
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