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    I think I left you hanging on this. ASCOPE is just one running assessment. The LE/ MP's use POLICE (corny right) Its in the new FM 3-19.50 (public release). Hope it doesn't trap you in a thought box. I would love to hear what you develop. CHP 1-16through
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    Currently, most ASCOPE analysis is done manually in the form of the Civil Affairs Estimate and Annex. While ASCOPE is relatively new to the rest of the Army, it has been part of the CA Estimate/Annex for decades. Check out FM 3-05.40 (Civil Affairs Operations) and 3-05.401 (Civil Affairs TTP) for examples of the estimate and annex. This includes the sub sections of each major area as well that is typically not included in FM 3-0, FM 3-24, FM 3-07, etc. Now, all of that being said, this is simply how ASCOPE is catalogued, or written for an order. What, I am sure you have more interest in, is how ASCOPE is/can/should be used.

    The best way to use it is in what we call a "nodal analysis" where you look at both ASCOPE and PMESII (Political, Military, Economic, Social, Infrastructure, Information) as if they are on perpendicular axis. So, for example, you would look at political areas, political structures, political capabilities, etc. military areas, military structures, military capabilities, etc. You get the picture. When you can map these "nodes" geo-spatially and layer then on top of one another, you can begin to see where you have overlap, and where you have people who are influential in certain areas, or in certain sectors, etc. This gives you the "so what" and provides the true analysis of the civil component of the battlefield.

    Now, realistically, I am not sure how many units, or even how many CA folks out there are doing this. We are moving in this direction though... Hope this helps!
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    All, thanks for the info, and keep it coming if you have anything else,had a late night so I will review them and comment later. Should have put this in my original post but the general idea is to apply ASCOPE to an individual criminal as in manhunting Later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfTheTroops View Post
    I think I left you hanging on this. ASCOPE is just one running assessment. The LE/ MP's use POLICE (corny right) Its in the new FM 3-19.50 (public release). Hope it doesn't trap you in a thought box. I would love to hear what you develop. CHP 1-16through
    No problem, I know your busy. tpd-597 Clear

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    Default ASCOPE Comes To LE?

    This is somewhat what I was thinking about....any thoughts?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HTCA...&feature=feedu

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    Slap,

    I was puzzled what ASCOPE meant and so found it was: Area Structures Capabilities Organizations People and Events. Not an acronym I'd heard before.

    There is a lot of commentary on whether modern electronic society has removed anonymity and reduced privacy. See a US perspective, from one of the more astute observer and participants:http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/

    Back to the film clip. Yes such modern devices can yield up masses of data, but are you sure Phone 'A' is with Subject 'A' ? We know that mobile / cell phones can be used in ways to evade identification. Really thoughtful criminals will avoid anything electronic. Thankfully few engage in deception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post

    Back to the film clip. Yes such modern devices can yield up masses of data, but are you sure Phone 'A' is with Subject 'A' ? We know that mobile / cell phones can be used in ways to evade identification. Really thoughtful criminals will avoid anything electronic. Thankfully few engage in deception.
    Go ahead and try. Drive a modern car? Gothcha. Buy groceries. Gotcha. Pay with cash... gotcha. Walk naked down US50 in Nevada (loneliest highway in American) still gotcha. That is really what the intersection cyber means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Slap,

    I was puzzled what ASCOPE meant and so found it was: Area Structures Capabilities Organizations People and Events. Not an acronym I'd heard before.
    I been working on this since the first GPS monitoring systems came out, some ten years ago. Wanted to apply it to domestic violence/stalking cases( I was literally laughed at for thinking about this some ten years ago). but I do it (have done it ) by hand. Used to plot locations on a city map based on peoples checkbooks,date books and address books. Cross reference to known locations where businesses had CCTV systems and or known offenders or crime locations. Very time/labor intensive.

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    Link to Michagin State police cell phone readers used for no warrant data searches. Interesting to see how this turns out.


    http://www.theoaklandpress.com/artic...f515008262.txt

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    Slap,

    There are several products out there for quickly sucking data out of cell phones:

    http://www.cellebrite.com/

    I'm not particularly happy with the Michigan police asking to do this at traffic stops, but seems to make your data acquisition process a lot easier.

    OOps see you got this ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pvebber View Post
    Slap,

    There are several products out there for quickly sucking data out of cell phones:

    http://www.cellebrite.com/

    I'm not particularly happy with the Michigan police asking to do this at traffic stops, but seems to make your data acquisition process a lot easier.

    OOps see you got this ...
    Yes, the ones I have seen require you to remove the chip, evidently cellbrite does not require it. The method of orgazing the data once removed is impotant to......ASCOPE (6 ring analysis)....I am telling you the Rings will rule

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