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Old 04-01-2017   #241
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No joke: Germany acted like America of old, taking in a million refugees. Its economy strengthened & unemployment keeps going DOWN. Chart:
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Germany criticizes Trump orders on trade deficits, import duty evasion
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U.S. President Donald Trump's executive orders on trade deficits and import duty evasion are a sign that Washington plans to move away from free trade and international agreements, German Economy Minister Brigitte Zypries said on Saturday.
Trump instructed his administration on Friday to study the causes of U.S. trade deficits and clamp down on countries that abuse trade rules in two executive orders he said would open a new chapter for U.S. workers and businesses.
Zypries said that while the executive orders were initially only reviews, "they show, however, that the U.S. obviously wants to move away from free trade and trade agreements."
"We must seek constructive dialogue and explain that the reasons for the U.S. trade deficit are not just abroad," the minister said, adding that she would raise the issue in talks with U.S. counterparts during a trip to Washington in May.
For years, the United States has been importing more goods from Germany than it exports to Europe's biggest economy, due to the relatively strong competitiveness of German firms and the high demand among U.S. customers for 'Made in Germany' goods.
The resulting U.S. trade deficit with Germany has nearly doubled in the past 10 years from some 28.8 billion euros in 2006 to 49 billion euros in 2016, according to data from Germany's Federal Statistics Office.
Trump's trade adviser Peter Navarro has accused Germany of exploiting other countries through a "grossly undervalued" euro. This sparked a sharp response from German Chancellor Angela Merkel who said the European Central Bank is in charge of the euro and the central bank is a politically independent body.
In a further sign of increased tensions between Germany and the United States, German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel urged the European Union on Friday to consider filing a complaint with the World Trade Organisation (WTO) against the United States over its plan to impose duties on imports of steel plate from five EU member states.

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Old 04-12-2017   #243
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Yesterday three roadside IEDs exploded when the Dortmund soccer team bus passed by seriously injuring a player and police officer....

A note claiming the attack was found nearby...totally unusual for a jihadist attack...they claim online not by a note that might not get found...

Letter at BVB bus has Islamist intention, mentions German Tornados in Syria and Berlin truck attack.
http://m.bild.de/news/2017/news/eilm...ldMobile.html#

Police are investigating claim of responsibility from Antifa, published online. Looks rather fake/trolling to me.
http://m.bild.de/sport/fussball/boru...ldMobile.html#

The Islamist letter has very unusual wording for an ISIS attack, looks as if perpetrator is either not familiar with the language or...he tried to gave the misleading impression of an Islamist attack. Some aspects of the letter read rather like leftwing terrorism.

1st of May demonstrations throughout Germany for the radical left and anarchists are coming up....

Police are seen investigating of what looks like the effects of some kind of recoilless gun. Device would have fired through hole in fence towards the bus.

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BREAKING No evidence to link detained 'Islamist' suspect to Dortmund blasts: German prosecutors

BUT by accident they happened to pickup a potential Islamist who just happened to be walking in the nearby area of the attack....again by accident...
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BREAKING No evidence to link detained 'Islamist' suspect to Dortmund blasts: German prosecutors

BUT by accident they happened to pickup a potential Islamist who just happened to be walking in the nearby area of the attack....again by accident...
The German Federal Prosecutor is indicating that they are looking at the extreme right as those that fired the very well (professional) made IEDs that were well coordinated.....in their timing......the IEDs were designed to kill the entire team....so that means there is an extremely talented extreme right wing bomb maker in Germany somewhere or they came from outside Germany.....this is a total new development.....

Anschlag auf @BVB-Bus in #Dortmund: Laut @BILD wird auch im Umfeld von #Legida und rechten Hools ermittelt
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/bombe...698.bild.html#
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Merkel overtakes challenger Schulz 46% to 40%. Her approval rating rises to 62%, highest since 2015 refugee crisis.
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/deutschlandtrend/#
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The German Federal Prosecutor is indicating that they are looking at the extreme right as those that fired the very well (professional) made IEDs that were well coordinated.....in their timing......the IEDs were designed to kill the entire team....so that means there is an extremely talented extreme right wing bomb maker in Germany somewhere or they came from outside Germany.....this is a total new development.....

Anschlag auf @BVB-Bus in #Dortmund: Laut @BILD wird auch im Umfeld von #Legida und rechten Hools ermittelt
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/bombe...698.bild.html#
A third letter has been received by German federal police.....

Letter sent to Tagesspiegel probably fake, authorities see rightwingers as likely behind BVB bus attack.
http://m.bild.de/sport/fussball/boru...ldMobile.html#

What many Americans do not know is the German radical right is just about if not more so violent than the extreme left...and many were former German military...
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Evidently the explosives used in the IED attack on a soccer team bus....comes potentially from German military sources...

Der beim Anschlag auf den #BVB-Bus verwendete Sprengstoff stammt offenbar aus #Bundeswehr-Bestnden
https://www.welt.de/politik/article1...n-stammen.html
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Far-right claims responsibility for Borussia Dortmund blasts
http://news.sky.com/story/far-right-...asts-10838440#
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Anis Amri, Berlin market attacker, was ordered directly by #IS, according to UAE intelligence.

Noted in the report on #IS's foreign attacks: Amri was deeply tied to #IS infrastructure, in Germany and even Libya
http://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-co...ks-Paper.pdf#
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German police found nearly a half-ton of cocaine hidden in bananas
http://read.bi/2pjy0fj

Fifth such find in the last year.....appears that the transnational gangs cannot find the right shipment when it clears customs and get it on the right truck....

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Far-right claims responsibility for Borussia Dortmund blasts
http://news.sky.com/story/far-right-...asts-10838440#
Dortmund attackers wanted to incite backlash against Muslims
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/66...-86f619ed3761#
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I never said that the Sunni Arabs have turned the conflict sectarian; that was Assad’s doing. Nevertheless, they have committed their own acts of sectarian violence, albeit nowhere near the level of Assad.

I would imagine that Syrian Sunni Arabs would treat Syrian Kurds, Syrian Alawis, Syrian Christians and Syrian Druze, far better than foreign Shia militias would treat them.



That might win the FSA a few battles, but would lose them the war to be sure. They want to be included in the settlement process and continue to receive TOWs.

I am well aware of the sectarian cleansing at work in Syria, however, I would put the onus on Damascus and Teheran, with Moscow being a collaborator rather than instigator. Arguably, Merkel’s bid for sainthood has been conducive to this cleansing as Syrian Sunni Arabs are welcomed into Europe and taken off of Assad’s hands.

No, Hitler would not be “envious”. Stalin would be disappointed and complain at the slow and chaotic pace of the cleansing process. I did not bring these mass murderers up to compare them to Assad, because he is more akin to Karadzic and Tudjman, but to reiterate that this is a very old way to deal with restive populations.
For those that believe the story about Merkel's sainthood really do need to fully and completely understand Germany since WW2.....

Germany fully and completely understands refugees when a major portion of them were uprooted in Poland...and the Czech Republic...Crimea....Ukraine and physically tossed out at the end of the war with many dying along the way...and then having to resettle all of them into both the GDR and BRD....

The second refugee wave came with the Wall coming down from GDR.....and that resettlement phase is just now ending with more coming back East than going West...25 years after the Wall came down....

So when a country has "empathy" for refugees then Trump and many others declare them "crazy"....

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Germany fully and completely understands refugees when a major portion of them were uprooted...and physically tossed out at the end of the war with many dying along the way...and then having to resettle all of them into both the GDR and BRD...
Yes, after centuries of German imperialism, and after a German attempt to exterminate the Slavic peoples, albeit with a few dozen million to be kept as slave labor.

The Germans received their just desserts after launching the most horrendous campaign of destruction and mass murder in history. Although the Communist Parties of the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam and North Korea were never held to account for their crimes, Hitler was outdone only by Mao, unless one examines the intensity of Hitler's spree.

The Germans have also attempted to minimize the role of the Wehrmacht in Germany's war crimes as well as the knowledge and therefore complicity of the average German.

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The second refugee wave came with the Wall coming down from GDR...and that resettlement phase is just now ending with more coming back East than going West...25 years after the Wall came down...
IDPs are different.

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So when a country has "empathy" for refugees then Trump and many others declare them "crazy"...
The German government has admitted that most of the people are in fact migrants and not genuine refugees.

In any event, in 1939, the Germans set out to destroy Europe by transforming it into Greater Germany and killing off other Europeans. Now, Germany is at it again by opening its borders to all migrants and demanding that its neighbors allow themselves to be colonized as well. In both cases, Germans care naught for the sovereignty of Europe's nation-states.

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Yes, after centuries of German imperialism, and after a German attempt to exterminate the Slavic peoples, albeit with a few dozen million to be kept as slave labor.

The Germans received their just desserts after launching the most horrendous campaign of destruction and mass murder in history. Although the Communist Parties of the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam and North Korea were never held to account for their crimes, Hitler was outdone only by Mao, unless one examines the intensity of Hitler's spree.

The Germans have also attempted to minimize the role of the Wehrmacht in Germany's war crimes as well as the knowledge and therefore complicity of the average German.



IDPs are different.



The German government has admitted that most of the people are in fact migrants and not genuine refugees.

In any event, in 1939, the Germans set out to destroy Europe by transforming it into Greater Germany and killing off other Europeans. Now, Germany is at it again by opening its borders to all migrants and demanding that its neighbors allow themselves to be colonized as well. In both cases, Germans care naught for the sovereignty of Europe's nation-states.
NO the German government has not openly and privately admitted that all refugees are migrants and not refugees....

Of the 1.2M that arrived....there are a number from North Africa and African countries that are migrants and their refugee requests are largely refused and then told they must leave and many do....the interesting and non reported fact is that their own countries do not want to take them back...

The remaining 1.1M are actually Syrian and Iraqi refugees with already over 800K refugee status requests being approved via their court system......and the remaining number will be court cleared by the end of the year...

Show me any Western country who could have organized such a massive undertaking on the fly and then registered biometrically all and moved their requests through a legal system in the speed the Germans have done....no one can match it.....

You seem to forget the GDR citizens who flooded Berlin in the 50s until the Wall was built...almost the same size of a problem....but handled and mastered as well.

So please get the narrative straight....

If you noticed the video footages coming out of the Med yesterday where they are 3K in the Med floating around...largely African and North African....and some numbers of Syrians.........

Since the clamp down on the EU border many Iraqi's and Syrians are holding up inside Turkey right now....or they are arriving in an orderly fashion via family reunification programs.

At 3K USDs a pop or 8-10K for a family the human smugglers are making great money these days....end that you end the problem....end the wars in Iraq and Syria and you end that flow...

In the end at the least Germany has created over 32K jobs around immigration and at 350-550 Euros a month for a family or single individual which is literally millions that is being injected into the economy every month...they have one heck of a stimulus program ongoing and it is growing the economy and lowering over joblessness....the lowest rate since 1989 now.....and the US is what at and the economy is overall slowing down again?????

And yet those outside Germany complain and complain and complain about how bad it is....

AND the secondary effect is that those Iraqi and Syrian refugees are pointing often to radicalized jihadists who have been living in Germany for a long while as they feel that it is their duty since Germany took them in.......

Actually quiet simple if you think it through......

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Evidently the explosives used in the IED attack on a soccer team bus....comes potentially from German military sources...

Der beim Anschlag auf den #BVB-Bus verwendete Sprengstoff stammt offenbar aus #Bundeswehr-Bestnden
https://www.welt.de/politik/article1...n-stammen.html
Now I am hearing from a close German security friend of possible Russian connections to the sources of the stolen military grade explosives and who the bomb maker is/was...

Device was extremely professional and reflects someone with extensive EOD or bomb making experience....

These two capabilities has never been seen inside extreme right wing groups before this attack...

The extreme right group NSU that is on trial did not even have those abilities...and the government is tracking a number of other extreme right wing groups capable of violence...

ALL of this in front of the coming German elections.....

IE security services are hinting at possible Russian active measures as their German election info war efforts are not gaining any traction and the right wing populist party is sinking in the polling...now at 6.3% down from a high of 14% and it was always rising....

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Certainly the M.O. of this attack is curious and it would be premature to attribute this to Islamists. Note that until the December atrocity in Berlin, far-right political violence directed at foreigners in general, and Muslims specifically, was far worse in Germany (from 2001 on) than Islamist terrorism in Germany.

In fact, until the end of last year, Germany was the only Western country in which anti-Muslim violence was worse than Islamist violence; in contrast to the U.S., France, Spain, U.K., Sweden, Belgium, Denmark, Australia and Canada.

Whereas the suggestions of false flags in the U.S. and the growing list of fake hate crimes stand in contrast with the evidence of political violence, it would not surprise me if the Borussia Dortmund attack was in fact a false flag perpetrated by anti-Muslim Germans.

We will see...
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Certainly the M.O. of this attack is curious and it would be premature to attribute this to Islamists. Note that until the December atrocity in Berlin, far-right political violence directed at foreigners in general, and Muslims specifically, was far worse in Germany (from 2001 on) than Islamist terrorism in Germany.

In fact, until the end of last year, Germany was the only Western country in which anti-Muslim violence was worse than Islamist violence; in contrast to the U.S., France, Spain, U.K., Sweden, Belgium, Denmark, Australia and Canada.

Whereas the suggestions of false flags in the U.S. and the growing list of fake hate crimes stand in contrast with the evidence of political violence, it would not surprise me if the Borussia Dortmund attack was in fact a false flag perpetrated by anti-Muslim Germans.

We will see...
Allegedly 5 claims in total: 3 Islamist; 1 far-left; 1 far-right.

Important not to jump to *any* conclusions at this stage.

IS might surprise us yet.....but the wording of the IS claims was way way off.....

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NO the German government has not openly and privately admitted that all refugees are migrants and not refugees...
I said “most” not “all” and was mistakenly referring to Frans Timmerman, although Thomas de Maziere seems to share Timmerman's view. Yet on balance of the migration flows and rejected asylum applications from 2014 through 2016, more than 50% of the migrants would be economic migrants from the Balkans and Africa, and not refugees. Within the “refugee” pool, I take a dim view of Afghans and Iraqis, as most of those countries are not warzones; by contrast, almost no place is truly safe in Syria.

Yet even from Syria, a number of the “refugees” include middle and upper-middle class Alawis, Christians and Druze fleeing conscription in the NDF. Does the average Syrian in the refugee camps of Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, or living in rebel-held areas have USD $3,000+? I doubt it. How can a fighting-age male Alawi with Shabiha connections fleeing conscription in the NDF truly compare to a Sunni Arab of the Civil Defense who responds first to the Russo-Syrian shelling, bombing and gassing? Even the Kurds of Rojava are far more secure than the Sunni Arabs.

In 2015, 1,092,000 migrants arrived in Germany. Only 44% (447,000) filed asylum applications and 12% “disappeared” (130,000). Of these asylum applications, only 59% (283,000) were processed, of which 50% (141,000) were recognized and 50% (142,000) were rejected i.e. economic migrants. A further 300,000 migrants arrived in Germany in 2016...

Of the 550,000 migrants whose asylum applications were rejected in Germany from 2014 to 2016, only 25% 138,000 have been deported or left. But what of the 412,000 rejected migrants who refuse to leave? The 279,000 migrants who have not yet filed? The 130,000 “missing” migrants? At least 1% of the resident German population is illegal.

RE: Syria Thread

By the way, the entire discussion of Germany’s border and immigration policies only came up because I asserted that Merkel is enabling Assad by allowing him to transfer the undesirable or restive part of his population to the European Union, and Germany in particular. Yet instead of addressing that point, we have now ventured into arguing over the postwar deportation of Germans and Merkel’s policies. Most of your comments after my last reply were focused on Trump rather than Syria, despite the fact that Trump is not a major actor in the Syrian Civil War, save for rapping Assad across the knuckles once.

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I said “most” not “all” and was mistakenly referring to Frans Timmerman, although Thomas de Maziere seems to share Timmerman's view. Yet on balance of the migration flows and rejected asylum applications from 2014 through 2016, more than 50% of the migrants would be economic migrants from the Balkans and Africa, and not refugees. Within the “refugee” pool, I take a dim view of Afghans and Iraqis, as most of those countries are not warzones; by contrast, almost no place is truly safe in Syria.

Yet even from Syria, a number of the “refugees” include middle and upper-middle class Alawis, Christians and Druze fleeing conscription in the NDF. Does the average Syrian in the refugee camps of Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, or living in rebel-held areas have USD $3,000+? I doubt it. How can a fighting-age male Alawi with Shabiha connections fleeing conscription in the NDF truly compare to a Sunni Arab of the Civil Defense who responds first to the Russo-Syrian shelling, bombing and gassing? Even the Kurds of Rojava are far more secure than the Sunni Arabs.

In 2015, 1,092,000 migrants arrived in Germany. Only 44% (447,000) filed asylum applications and 12% “disappeared” (130,000). Of these asylum applications, only 59% (283,000) were processed, of which 50% (141,000) were recognized and 50% (142,000) were rejected i.e. economic migrants. A further 300,000 migrants arrived in Germany in 2016...

Of the 550,000 migrants whose asylum applications were rejected in Germany from 2014 to 2016, only 25% 138,000 have been deported or left. But what of the 412,000 rejected migrants who refuse to leave? The 279,000 migrants who have not yet filed? The 130,000 “missing” migrants? At least 1% of the resident German population is illegal.

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By the way, the entire discussion of Germany’s border and immigration policies only came up because I asserted that Merkel is enabling Assad by allowing him to transfer the undesirable or restive part of his population to the European Union, and Germany in particular. Yet instead of addressing that point, we have now ventured into arguing over the postwar deportation of Germans and Merkel’s policies. Most of your comments after my last reply were focused on Trump rather than Syria, despite the fact that Trump is not a major actor in the Syrian Civil War, save for rapping Assad across the knuckles once.
Merkel enabled Assad's forced refugee flows?? I thought it was starvation...ethnic cleansing..constant cluster munitions, naplam and bunjerbusters driving IDPs and refugees??

Really.....

Trump is now a serious contender for his Syrian failed policies...actually he is worse than Obama as he has virtually no idea what to do other than continue Obama's agenda.....

Outside of a politically at home motivated TLAM strike what else has he actually done...increasing SOF but Raqqa is bogged down as well....

REMEMBER we are talking about "the Donald"...the same one who stated "I will eradicate IS/AQ from the face of the earth and do it immediately"...well 100 days in and outside of TLAMs what else has he done??

BUT WAIT...now he is in NKs face....AND Syria....??

He remains me of a 12 year old with ADAH on Ritalin....who cannot figure out how to use the TV remote.....

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