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    No one is quite sure who is behind the "Committee to Defend the President"....

    Just popped up yesterday in the DC area....
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    THIS is the perfect example of just how little Trump knows about FP and the ME .....

    Donald J. Trump‏
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    So good to see the Saudi Arabia visit with the King and 50 countries already paying off. They said they would take a hard line on funding...extremism, and all reference was pointing to Qatar. Perhaps this will be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism!

    Donald J. Trump‏
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    During my recent trip to the Middle East I stated that there can no longer be funding of Radical Ideology. Leaders pointed to Qatar - look!

    BUT WAIT.....
    Qatar host major US AB vital for operations in #Afghanistan, #Iraq, #Yemen and the region.
    Backstabbing US foreign policy toward allies?

    If #Qatar decides to kick #US out that will be major complication for US Middle Eastern presence.

    To say that isolation of #Qatar is ”beginning of the end of terorism”, is as far as it gets from reality.

    BUT WAIT...this is what Trump did while in KSA on his visit....
    In a meeting with the Emir of Qatar in Riyadh he discussed the sale of "beautiful military equipment" to Qatar.


    BLUF
    Rheinmetall and Heckler&Koch are probably sending sales representatives to Qatar as we speak

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    Trump Jr. backs up father, bashes London mayor -
    https://youtu.be/2V2B0_-CUoE

    Mayors of American cities unite to show support for @SadiqKhan. Unlike the American president.
    https://www.usmayors.org/2017/06/04/...error-attack/#

    Theresa May said Donald Trump was "wrong" to criticize the mayor of London Sadiq Khan
    http://politi.co/2rQaOGr
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    There is that term Trump used and was then reused in Russian propaganda "witch hunt"....

    Trump sons dismiss #Russia investigation as a "witch hunt…the greatest hoax of all time"
    http://abc7ne.ws/2sctwsH
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    This insider leak is getting stranger by the hour....

    No one seems to understand the "leak motive"....was she trying to show Trump is actually under surveillance...not really as this as a NSA analysis of Russian hacking before the election.....was she trying to out Russian Intelligence Services...was she trying to pressure NSA Director Rogers to reveal more hacking information???? Was she a "whistleblower or a spy"...??

    If so why then send it to Greenwood an avowed supporter of Snowdon??....was she concerned that the Russian hacking would get buried by a GOP Congress and a do nothing FBI??.....not really sure of the motive as it makes no sense...

    Glenn Greenwald spent months smearing anyone reporting Russian interference as "McCarthyism" & now the Intercept reports exactly that...

    WHAT is a hoot though is now Assange and Wikileaks being nothing but a proRussian mouthpiece is demanding the following......

    Hypocrite #Assange wants right of reply over #TheIntercept leak, for Russia - something he never offered anyone embarrassed by his leaks.


    SO is he going to leak some NSA document to counter the leaked document that clearly and concisely names Russian GRU behind the hacking of the Us election....
    How the inept muckrakers at Putincept outed their #NSA golden source.
    http://observer.com/2017/06/reality-...ak-explained/#

    .@theintercept blew its source's cover by giving the NSA a copy of the leaked document
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/u...20Report&_r=0#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    THIS is the perfect example of just how little Trump knows about FP and the ME .....

    Donald J. Trump‏
    @realDonaldTrump

    So good to see the Saudi Arabia visit with the King and 50 countries already paying off. They said they would take a hard line on funding...extremism, and all reference was pointing to Qatar. Perhaps this will be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism!

    Donald J. Trump‏
    @realDonaldTrump

    During my recent trip to the Middle East I stated that there can no longer be funding of Radical Ideology. Leaders pointed to Qatar - look!

    BUT WAIT.....
    Qatar host major US AB vital for operations in #Afghanistan, #Iraq, #Yemen and the region.
    Backstabbing US foreign policy toward allies?

    If #Qatar decides to kick #US out that will be major complication for US Middle Eastern presence.

    To say that isolation of #Qatar is ”beginning of the end of terorism”, is as far as it gets from reality.

    BUT WAIT...this is what Trump did while in KSA on his visit....
    In a meeting with the Emir of Qatar in Riyadh he discussed the sale of "beautiful military equipment" to Qatar.


    BLUF
    Rheinmetall and Heckler&Koch are probably sending sales representatives to Qatar as we speak
    Lessons learned:
    Never Ever. Trust. Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R9ivIjmo0g#

    SO does anyone honesty expect Trump to not throw Ukraine under the bus if asked to do it by Putin?????

    In his May 21 Riyadh speech, President @realDonaldTrump called #Qatar a "crucial strategic partner." This morning, a different message:

    Trump's Qatar flip-flop also brings to question how many other allied assurances are revocable on a whim.
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    The released NSA document definitely proves one simple thing...Putin lied during his recent interview...

    Leaked NSA report names Russia in pre-election hacks, contradicting Putin’s claims of innocence
    http://tcrn.ch/2saGBT0

    The NSA five page redacted document is at this link....
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

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    ANOTHER Trump "fake moment"...

    1. first the "fake 110B USDs weapons deal with KSA.....NOW THIS "fake event".....

    2. Did Trump really host an elaborate-but-fake signing ceremony at the White House yesterday? You bet he did
    http://on.msnbc.com/2r1CS5M

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    EXCLUSIVE: 4 top law firms turned down requests to represent Trump in the Russia investigation
    https://yhoo.it/2scdaju

    WHILE this is an appearingly normal press release article there is in fact something hidden in it that has not been mentioned by MSM and it involves the Trump WH, Trump and money laundering....

    That part will be highlighted.....AND BTW...confirms a number of social media journalist breaking stories concerning Trump money laundering....


    Top lawyers with at least four major law firms rebuffed White House overtures to represent President Trump in the Russia investigations, in part over concerns that the president would be unwilling to listen to their advice, according to five sources familiar with discussions about the matter.
    The unwillingness of some of the country’s most prestigious attorneys and their law firms to represent Trump has complicated the administration’s efforts to mount a coherent defense strategy to deal with probes being conducted by four congressional committees as well as Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller.
    The president’s chief lawyer now in charge of the case is Marc E. Kasowitz, a tough New York civil litigator who for years has aggressively represented Trump in multiple business and public relations disputes —#often with threats of countersuits and menacing public statements — but who has little experience dealing with complex congressional and Justice Department investigations that are inevitably influenced by media coverage and public opinion.
    Before Kasowitz was retained, however, some of the biggest law firms and their best-known attorneys turned down overtures when they were sounded out by White House officials to see if they would be willing to represent the president, the sources said.
    Among them, sources said, were some of the most high-profile names in the legal profession, including Brendan Sullivan of Williams & Connolly; Ted Olson of Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher; Paul Clement and Mark Filip of Kirkland & Ellis; and Robert Giuffra of Sullivan & Cromwell.
    The lawyers and their firms cited a variety of factors in choosing not to take on the president as a client. Some, like Brendan Sullivan, said they had upcoming trials or existing commitments that would make it impossible for them to devote the necessary time and resources to Trump’s defense.
    Others mentioned potential conflicts with clients of their firms, such as financial institutions that have already received subpoenas relating to potential money-laundering issues that are part of the investigation.
    But a consistent theme, the sources said, was the concern about whether the president would accept the advice of his lawyers and refrain from public statements and tweets that have consistently undercut his position.
    “The concerns were, ‘The guy won’t pay and he won’t listen,’” said one lawyer close to the White House who is familiar with some of the discussions between the
    firms and the administration, as well as deliberations within the firms themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Lessons learned:
    Never Ever. Trust. Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R9ivIjmo0g#

    SO does anyone honesty expect Trump to not throw Ukraine under the bus if asked to do it by Putin?????

    In his May 21 Riyadh speech, President @realDonaldTrump called #Qatar a "crucial strategic partner." This morning, a different message:

    Trump's Qatar flip-flop also brings to question how many other allied assurances are revocable on a whim.
    BLUF
    The President is admitting his approval of a regional diplomatic action against a U.S. ally that houses CENTCOM (Forward).

    Trump made a terrible blunder on Qatar, with just three tweets
    http://read.bi/2r1Vgvh

    I fear he really doesn't know, Qatar hosts the largest US military base in Middle East and Tillerson & the US Amb. backed the country ...

    We're past the point where POTUS tweets are incredibly dangerous with lasting, negative consequences.

    The fact that, if true, he discussed Qatar with anyone is mind blowing. He can't spell it, pronounce it-let alone find it on a map.

    McMaster, Mattis et al must threaten to resign-do whatever it takes-to stop Trump's aberrant /dangerous behavior. Including speaking out.

    At this point, no spokesperson has shred of credibility to clean up mess left by Qatar tweet.

    Huck-Sanders said as spokesperson she can't speak for POTUS. If she could maybe she would note Qatar host large US base/10K troops.
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    Incredible. WH pushed to ease sanctions on Russia’s oil industry as recently as late March,well after Flynn resigned

    There was a sense that lifting sanctions "would open up major opportunities in energy projects in eastern Russia," a former official said.

    Harrington, the guy pushing this, was a Flynn acolyte and Ezra Cohen-Watnick ally.

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    California, China defy U.S. climate retreat with new cleantech tie-up:
    http://reut.rs/2szBj0Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    ANOTHER Trump "fake moment"...

    1. first the "fake 110B USDs weapons deal with KSA.....NOW THIS "fake event".....

    2. Did Trump really host an elaborate-but-fake signing ceremony at the White House yesterday? You bet he did
    http://on.msnbc.com/2r1CS5M
    Last month, President Trump visited Saudi Arabia and his administration announced that he had concluded a $110 billion arms deal with the kingdom. Only problem is that there is no deal. It’s fake news.

    Bruce Riedel
    Senior Fellow - Foreign Policy, Center for 21st Century Security and Intelligence, Center for Middle East PolicyDirector - The Intelligence Project

    I’ve spoken to contacts in the defense business and on the Hill, and all of them say the same thing: There is no $110 billion deal. Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday. So far nothing has been notified to the Senate for review. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the arms sales wing of the Pentagon, calls them “intended sales.” None of the deals identified so far are new, all began in the Obama administration.


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    Kushner Companies, owned by the family of Jared Kushner, is seeking $250 million to pay off Chinese backers
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/b...imes&smtyp=cur

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    There is a serious issue at stake and it is simply the US core democracy...
    Yet the issue is less serious than:

    • Eisenhower’s reckless nuclear policies and his SIOP
    • Kennedy’s organized crime connections
    • Johnson’s secrets and lies about the Vietnam War
    • Nixon’s paranoia and dirty tricks
    • Clinton’s “wag the dog” war in Kosovo that violated the War Powers Resolution
    • Bush Jr.’s casus belli for invading Iraq and domestic surveillance
    • Obama’s domestic surveillance and targeted killings of U.S. citizens


    With respect to the desire by Bannon and others in Trump’s circle to “destroy the current establishment”, I have conflicted emotions.

    On the one hand, I never took Trump as a serious candidate until it was too late and one must ask who the swamp can be filled with once it is drained? Draining the swamp did not work in Germany, Japan or Italy in 1945, or the Eastern Bloc in the early 1990s, precisely because there were not enough competent civil servants to replace those deemed politically incorrect. I would have counseled incremental changes, but I was not on Trump's campaign.

    But on the other, the reaction to Trump’s candidacy and presidency by elements of the intelligence and foreign policy communities – the pro-intervention crowd that truly deserved to be in the wilderness for a couple of decades after Iraq – indicates to me that the most important bureaucracies in the U.S. government are no longer accountable to the American electorate, and will subvert democracy in order to pursue their policy goals.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    …you keep denying the Steele Dossier with the reasoning there is and or was no sex tape...

    What you and thousands of others saying the same exact point...do not fully know and how could you know...that which was released by Buzzfeed was in fact a summary of the entire document.....

    Currently "some say a total of 80%" of the entire document has been confirmed and legally verified and has been used in ongoing Grand Jury hearings...

    So keep on repeating no sex tape negates the entire report....one will be hearing far more about that document in the coming weeks...
    I couldn’t care less about “80%” of the Dossier. I care about the only new material revelation: the sex tape. At present, we are dealing with medieval village gossip intended to comfort members of the #notmypresident, #theresistance, #shepersisted, etc. crowds.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    WHILE I am absolutely not an a fan from this individual but some are in fact saying the NSA document is real...
    I am sure that it is, but unfortunately for Ms. Winner, the election hacking issue was put to bed months ago:

    • Voting machines are not connected to the internet
    • Central tabulating machines operate on the results of individual election machines, with each machine verifying the other
    • Every single voting machine would have to be hacked by human agents
    • Most states have paper trails for their voting machines, including FL, WI, MI, most of PA and OH. These would need to be physically altered as well
    • Every election since 2000 would come into question if the 2016 one was rigged, including that of Obama, who was softer on Russia than either McCain or Romney

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    By Stanley R. Sloan at War On The Rocks: https://warontherocks.com/2017/06/do...save-the-west/ (emphasis added)

    President Donald Trump is widely seen in Europe and by his numerous critics in the United States as having abdicated American leadership of the West. When German Chancellor Angela Merkel traveled to Washington in March 2016 to visit Trump, one headline blared “Leader of the Free World Meets American President.” This perception of abdication was based partly on Trump’s persistent refusal to criticize Russia for its aggressive behavior under President Vladimir Putin. It was solidified by Trump’s meetings with NATO and G-7 leaders in Europe in late May and then additionally confirmed when Trump announced he would pull the United States out of the Paris climate agreement. The question now is whether Merkel will be able to provide the leadership that the West and its predominant institutions — NATO and the European Union — need. The answer, most likely, is no...

    ...As we know, there is no such formal position as “the leader of the free world,” or of “the West,” and it is an open question whether any other country has the inclination, respect, resources, and capabilities to take on the responsibilities that go with the honorific. But, with the American president seemingly abdicating his responsibilities, the leading candidate would seem to be Germany, as led by Angela Merkel.

    Germany’s economic strength has made it the economic and financial leader of the European Union. That is a good credential. But the main reason to look to Germany is that Merkel’s politics are most clearly rooted in the principles and priorities that define “the West.” Those values are articulated in the 1949 NATO Treaty, whose preamble asserts that the allies share a belief in individual liberty, democracy, and the rule of law. In recent years, major NATO statements have added “human rights” to the list. The European Union, of course, endorses a similar set of values.

    The problem is that leadership of the West in a conflicted regional and global environment requires something else: power. In this area, Germany comes up short. This is an intentional consequence of history. After World War II, France and other European states hoped to ensure that Germany could not become a threat to peace for a third time in the same century. The United States wanted to make sure that Germany’s potential could eventually be included in a defense against the Soviet Union, but agreed that limits should be placed on Germany’s offensive and, in particular, its nuclear weapons potential. Perhaps even more important, Germany’s post-war leadership and all German governments since have worked hard to establish a new national ethos: Germany would no longer be a warrior state.

    Nevertheless, throughout the Cold War, Germany provided substantial forces on NATO’s front lines facing the East. In the almost two decades since the disintegration of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, Germany and other allies have relaxed their military efforts. Trump has taken Germany to task for only spending around 1.2 percent of its GDP on defense and reports abound of equipment shortages and readiness issues in the Bundeswehr. Perhaps of greater concern is the fact that, even though German public opinion strongly supports NATO, it is skeptical about coming to the support of an ally under attack, perhaps in part because Germans don’t want to send troops on another American mission like Afghanistan.

    Today, the lessons of the 20th century remain firmly planted in the German polity. That contributes to American frustration with the German lack of enthusiasm for additional military spending, or sending its troops into combat.

    One of the early German reactions to Donald Trump’s assaults on the NATO allies was speculation about Germany becoming a nuclear weapons state. Suggestions that Germany should “think the previously unthinkable,” raised by a prominent German newspaper and a conservative member of the German parliament, were met with cautionary responses and alternative proposals. One proposal envisioned creating a European deterrent on French and British nuclear capabilities, with Germany funding the operation. Chances are neither an autonomous German nuclear force nor a European deterrent force are on the table. They are simply too potentially destabilizing in the former case (as well as a breach of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) and most likely, in the latter, a bridge too far beyond sovereign control of nuclear weapons for France and the United Kingdom.

    The Trump impact on transatlantic relations has also given new life to proposals for intensified European defense cooperation. Such proposals have a long and checkered history, which I have covered in detail in my detailed examination of the transatlantic alliance. The European allies certainly could do more for their own defense, and part of this could come from concerting efforts, reducing duplication, sharing missions, and other practical cooperative steps. But an effective European alternative to NATO would likely cost far more than what they are currently able to produce for their contributions to NATO. This is to say nothing of the new complications resulting from “Brexit,” the British decision to leave the European Union. Some might see this British move as facilitating E.U. military cooperation, but my assessment is that it takes more away in potential capabilities than it adds in the ease of making political decisions.

    This suggests that, in the near term, NATO will remain the preferred option for all European members of the alliance. It would take a complete and total American departure from the alliance to change this outlook. And, in spite of the many uninformed and careless comments produced by the American president, the United States is nonetheless increasing its contributions to defense in Europe, and in particular to deployments in the north and east intended to deter any Russian intrusions, whether by massive force or little green men.

    This story seems to me like the initial large boom that usually opens a fireworks show: You know there is a lot more to come, including presumably a dramatic finale. The level of uncertainty is enhanced by the fact that, although Trump has won a four-year term as president, the various investigations of his campaign and administration’s connections to Russia raise questions about whether he will end up serving the entire term, to say nothing of winning a second one.

    Uncertainty reigns on the European side as well. Angela Merkel has firmly established her claim on at least the moral leadership of the West, to add to Germany’s more comprehensive leadership of the European Union. But her fate rests in the hands of German voters who will have to decide whether she stays in charge when they go to the polls this September. Merkel’s criticism of Trump will do her no harm in the election, as there are likely few less popular Americans in Germany than Donald Trump.

    As has been the case in Europe for over six decades, the French-German couple plays an important role in European and transatlantic affairs. When the French electorate stood up to both established left, right and far right parties and elected Emmanuel Macron as president, Merkel and Germany gained an important ally. Macron, without an established party behind him, still faces challenges in his own country. But he and Merkel seem to believe that they are riding a new tide that rejects extreme nativist populism, and that forms a solid platform from which they can reject Donald Trump’s American extremism.

    Against this backdrop, the transatlantic crystal ball remains clouded. The United States currently can lay no claim to leadership of the West, or even of the transatlantic alliance, as the positions and posturing of Donald Trump have at least temporarily relinquished that responsibility. At the same time, Germany and Angela Merkel occupy the moral high ground, but are not able to check off all the requirements for the task of comprehensive Western leadership. President Macron can claim a victory at home, and his alliance with Germany adds some stability to the European side of the alliance. The United Kingdom, led by Prime Minister Theresa May, is now and will continue to be distracted by the challenge of managing an ill-considered departure from the European Union that seems likely to make her country weaker and less influential.

    To the extent it is possible to predict, the absence of good alternatives suggests that when the fireworks show comes to its finale, NATO will remain standing and the United States will once again lay claim to leadership of the West. This will not likely come during the presidency of Donald Trump, but could come from his successor, whether a Democrat or Republican. One of the remarkable products of the Trump disruption is a convergence, at least in Congress, of the two parties in support of NATO and Western values. This has led some observers to suggest that the Western alliance will emerge from the current crisis even stronger. This may be. But the question will be how much damage to mutual trust and confidence will be incurred in the meantime.

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    17 US intelligence agencies, the Five Eyes Intel alliance, and NATO: now known as “the Democrat Media,” like they’re the local arts weekly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    By Stanley R. Sloan at War On The Rocks: https://warontherocks.com/2017/06/do...save-the-west/ (emphasis added)

    President Donald Trump is widely seen in Europe and by his numerous critics in the United States as having abdicated American leadership of the West. When German Chancellor Angela Merkel traveled to Washington in March 2016 to visit Trump, one headline blared “Leader of the Free World Meets American President.” This perception of abdication was based partly on Trump’s persistent refusal to criticize Russia for its aggressive behavior under President Vladimir Putin. It was solidified by Trump’s meetings with NATO and G-7 leaders in Europe in late May and then additionally confirmed when Trump announced he would pull the United States out of the Paris climate agreement. The question now is whether Merkel will be able to provide the leadership that the West and its predominant institutions — NATO and the European Union — need. The answer, most likely, is no...

    ...As we know, there is no such formal position as “the leader of the free world,” or of “the West,” and it is an open question whether any other country has the inclination, respect, resources, and capabilities to take on the responsibilities that go with the honorific. But, with the American president seemingly abdicating his responsibilities, the leading candidate would seem to be Germany, as led by Angela Merkel.

    Germany’s economic strength has made it the economic and financial leader of the European Union. That is a good credential. But the main reason to look to Germany is that Merkel’s politics are most clearly rooted in the principles and priorities that define “the West.” Those values are articulated in the 1949 NATO Treaty, whose preamble asserts that the allies share a belief in individual liberty, democracy, and the rule of law. In recent years, major NATO statements have added “human rights” to the list. The European Union, of course, endorses a similar set of values.

    The problem is that leadership of the West in a conflicted regional and global environment requires something else: power. In this area, Germany comes up short. This is an intentional consequence of history. After World War II, France and other European states hoped to ensure that Germany could not become a threat to peace for a third time in the same century. The United States wanted to make sure that Germany’s potential could eventually be included in a defense against the Soviet Union, but agreed that limits should be placed on Germany’s offensive and, in particular, its nuclear weapons potential. Perhaps even more important, Germany’s post-war leadership and all German governments since have worked hard to establish a new national ethos: Germany would no longer be a warrior state.

    Nevertheless, throughout the Cold War, Germany provided substantial forces on NATO’s front lines facing the East. In the almost two decades since the disintegration of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, Germany and other allies have relaxed their military efforts. Trump has taken Germany to task for only spending around 1.2 percent of its GDP on defense and reports abound of equipment shortages and readiness issues in the Bundeswehr. Perhaps of greater concern is the fact that, even though German public opinion strongly supports NATO, it is skeptical about coming to the support of an ally under attack, perhaps in part because Germans don’t want to send troops on another American mission like Afghanistan.

    Today, the lessons of the 20th century remain firmly planted in the German polity. That contributes to American frustration with the German lack of enthusiasm for additional military spending, or sending its troops into combat.

    One of the early German reactions to Donald Trump’s assaults on the NATO allies was speculation about Germany becoming a nuclear weapons state. Suggestions that Germany should “think the previously unthinkable,” raised by a prominent German newspaper and a conservative member of the German parliament, were met with cautionary responses and alternative proposals. One proposal envisioned creating a European deterrent on French and British nuclear capabilities, with Germany funding the operation. Chances are neither an autonomous German nuclear force nor a European deterrent force are on the table. They are simply too potentially destabilizing in the former case (as well as a breach of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) and most likely, in the latter, a bridge too far beyond sovereign control of nuclear weapons for France and the United Kingdom.

    The Trump impact on transatlantic relations has also given new life to proposals for intensified European defense cooperation. Such proposals have a long and checkered history, which I have covered in detail in my detailed examination of the transatlantic alliance. The European allies certainly could do more for their own defense, and part of this could come from concerting efforts, reducing duplication, sharing missions, and other practical cooperative steps. But an effective European alternative to NATO would likely cost far more than what they are currently able to produce for their contributions to NATO. This is to say nothing of the new complications resulting from “Brexit,” the British decision to leave the European Union. Some might see this British move as facilitating E.U. military cooperation, but my assessment is that it takes more away in potential capabilities than it adds in the ease of making political decisions.

    This suggests that, in the near term, NATO will remain the preferred option for all European members of the alliance. It would take a complete and total American departure from the alliance to change this outlook. And, in spite of the many uninformed and careless comments produced by the American president, the United States is nonetheless increasing its contributions to defense in Europe, and in particular to deployments in the north and east intended to deter any Russian intrusions, whether by massive force or little green men.

    This story seems to me like the initial large boom that usually opens a fireworks show: You know there is a lot more to come, including presumably a dramatic finale. The level of uncertainty is enhanced by the fact that, although Trump has won a four-year term as president, the various investigations of his campaign and administration’s connections to Russia raise questions about whether he will end up serving the entire term, to say nothing of winning a second one.

    Uncertainty reigns on the European side as well. Angela Merkel has firmly established her claim on at least the moral leadership of the West, to add to Germany’s more comprehensive leadership of the European Union. But her fate rests in the hands of German voters who will have to decide whether she stays in charge when they go to the polls this September. Merkel’s criticism of Trump will do her no harm in the election, as there are likely few less popular Americans in Germany than Donald Trump.

    To the extent it is possible to predict, the absence of good alternatives suggests that when the fireworks show comes to its finale, NATO will remain standing and the United States will once again lay claim to leadership of the West. This will not likely come during the presidency of Donald Trump, but could come from his successor, whether a Democrat or Republican. One of the remarkable products of the Trump disruption is a convergence, at least in Congress, of the two parties in support of NATO and Western values. This has led some observers to suggest that the Western alliance will emerge from the current crisis even stronger. This may be. But the question will be how much damage to mutual trust and confidence will be incurred in the meantime.
    This is what this article fails to completely understand about the current Trump WH and yes even Trump himself and I have tried to point the direction that many are overlooking.....

    Can the US within a four year Presidential cycle actually drift into a "smiling fascism"????

    Yes it can...

    1. every single Trump Cabinet member was nominated to destroy their respective federal agencies

    2. a federal hiring freeze is designed to starve those agencies of new employees thus making them unable to fulfil their functions thus reenforcing the Trump narrative that the government cannot do anything right thus be reduced as it is a tax burden to the Trump supporter

    3. a rollback of all 1930s passed social laws such as SS and and the 60s Voting Rights Act, Medicare and Medicaid as seen in the voter suppression actions of all GOP governed States

    4. not a single Federal Prosecutor nominated nor will there be any

    5. a federal budget that virtually guts all federal agencies

    6. roll back of virtually anything Obama passed laws and regulations

    I could go on....

    THEN on the FP front....bashing and stating NATO and EU are obsolete, bashing now Qatar, getting out of all trade agreements ie TTP TTIP and NFATA etc.....

    By the time we would see the end of a Trump first term there would not any US leadership to reestablish.....

    NOW lets move on to Bannon, Miller and David Horowitz and the alt right and the massive internet presence of the alt right....

    THAT is not even getting into the new "Trump Doctrine"....along the way....

    Even worse, Qatar failed to celebrate its December 2016 National Holiday at the Trump Hotel

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    This is what this article fails to completely understand...
    My apologies. I should have posted an article from RawStory...

    I wouldn't say that I completely agree with Sloan, but I wouldn't dismiss him either.

    Sloan has worked for both the CIA and NATO College and has graduate-level education in international relations, as well as decades of experience: http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about...-sloan#fullbio

    Moreover, will France allow Germany to assume the mantle of Western leadership, given Macron's desire for a "multi-speed" EU (i.e. "Eurozone First") that cracks down on "social dumping" from new EU members? See here: http://www.politico.eu/article/why-p...manuel-macron/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    My apologies. I should have posted an article from RawStory...

    I wouldn't say that I completely agree with Sloan, but I wouldn't dismiss him either.

    Sloan has worked for both the CIA and NATO College and has graduate-level education in international relations, as well as decades of experience: http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about...-sloan#fullbio

    Moreover, will France allow Germany to assume the mantle of Western leadership, given Macron's desire for a "multi-speed" EU (i.e. "Eurozone First") that cracks down on "social dumping" from new EU members? See here: http://www.politico.eu/article/why-p...manuel-macron/
    I still stand by my comments...right now all indications from both inside the US and Trumps current chaos being created outside the US that he wants to disconnect the US from everything.... check the posting on the Trump Doctrine...and then tell me I am not wrong...

    There is a term that you know so well...nationalism..check what the Bannon, Miler and Horowitz has to say about it....

    JUST a side note ....Google David Horowitz and you will get roughly 15 pages of all books that Horowitz has written since 1990 on his right side....

    Try to find any of his books from the 60s and 70s his Marxist days.....

    NOW that is interesting......is it not??

    Azor....does this even make sense for you....so who changed the speech Trump or as being quietly reported Bannon and Miller....

    Spicer says he doesn't know who changed Trump's NATO speech to remove Article V commitment, but "it's a bit of a silly discussion."

    So creating chaos inside EU and NATI is not on the agenda for the nationalism being pushed by Bannon, Miller and Horowitz???
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