Arizona Rep. Giffords' shooter called very disturbed.

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anonomatic, that was very well said IMO.

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anonomatic, that was very well said IMO.

Thanks, this is a hard topic for me to write about. It's one colored by a lot of very ugly experiences in more than one state. There is a difference between how we wish things would be with respect to our political ideas, and the reality of how things are for us as a species.

People spouting off politically does have consequences, and it doesn't matter who is doing it, or what their motivation is, abstracted from any political framework the use of violent language has very predictable results. It is not at all responsible behavior on the part of any leader, and people are both right to question it's use, and to condemn it as well.

Politics is however is a separate issue than what we choose to do to deal with the problem of mental illness, and violent mental illness. If we ignore these problems, people die.

I think this incident shows what happens with an inadequate public safety net, and the inadequate public education that goes with it. The `debate' that detractors want to engage in over this subject is rooted in a pattern of shame based societal ignorance that says it's ok to treat the mentally ill as societal refuse, & blame their actions on fictional moral failings of their own choice. Never mind any science that tells them otherwise when the ignorant conventional wisdom they've been relying on fails yet again...

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Link to last nights 60 minutes interview of the Secret Service agent Bryan Vossekuil and Dr. Robert Fein. These two are the primary authors of the Secret Service manual on Protective Intelligence and Threat Assessments for LE. Dosen't get any better than this folks IMO.



http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...in;cbsCarousel

[AdamG]

Looks like Loughner had Bush Derangement Syndrome.

He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government and that the country’s central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us...gfYK5d56DmiDjg


Loughner's brand of crazy was a Twinkie 35 feet long, weighing approximately 600 pounds.