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11 Nov. on The Fourth Rail: Ramadi Revisited; Cracks in Jihad.
"The city of Ramadi begins to take center stage as one of the last refuges of the insurgency along the Euphrates River Valley as Coalition forces press operations to clear and bold the border towns in western Iraq..." "The Marines patrolling the streets of Ramadi often find the citizens are supportive of Coalition efforts to restore law and order in the city. Some are even welcomed by the residents of Ramadi, as Private Jefferson Haney, an artilleryman with Battery L, 3rd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment stationed in Ramadi reports..." |
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12 July Los Angeles Times - Marines Try Lighter Touch in Ramadi by Julian Barnes.
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20 September post by Herschel Smith at the Captain's Journal - Ramadi: Marines Own the Night, 3.5 Years Into Iraq War.
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20 November London Times - Fighting Back: The City Determined Not to Become al-Qaeda's Capital by Martin Fletcher.
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Excellent interview in USATODAY with COL Sean McFarland of the 1st BCT, 1st AD who led the turnaround fight in Ramadi for the past year.
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Thanks for posting. My father called me this morning to let me know about the article. It's taken me a little while to explain why the "move in" plan is amongst our only means of achieving success in Iraq. I think he's becoming a believer more-and-more by the day. Not sure how much this relates to LtCol Yingling's article, but it appears that Col McFarland's decisions and his brigade's performance were a direct result of a plan he developed, not one driven from higher. Is this one more example, much like Col McMaster in Tal Afar and LtCol Alford in Al Qaim, where battalion/brigade commanders operating on their own initiative found success? In either case, I think the good thing today is that Gen Petraeus' team, along with the new COIN manuals, COIN Academy (created under Gen Casey's watch), increasing capabilities of the IA/IP, political initiatives in Baghdad and at the local level, etc. have most if not all units executing a similar strategy.
Now that we're close to having a unity of effort and clear vision for the entire country on all fronts, we'll see if we're given the time needed to succeed. |
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Maximus, I get the feeling that this sort of "freedom" that McFarland mentions is really not so much freedom as an utter lack of a strategic plan under Casey and Abizaid. While McMaster and the 3rd ACR were implementing the Tal Afar plan in 2005 and McFarland (McMaster's replacement in Tal Afar, shifted to Ramadi in May 2006, meanwhile we've seen Tal Afar return to car bombings and sectarian killing) was working in Ramadi in 2006, the overall strategic thrust of the U.S. Army in Iraq was withdrawal to FOBs. Am I full of it? This is little more than a half-assed guess, so please feel free to correct me.
I think a key to remember here is something that both Yingling and McFarland point to as key: a viable Iraqi partner on the ground to work with. As McFarland notes, simply moving to combat outposts was not enough. Only when the shaykhs were moved to fight al-Qaeda did he see real results. Similarly, the mayor and IA commander in Tal Afar had key input at all levels of Operation Restoring Rights as detailed by Yingling. That just makes things like this all the worse. |
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I think there is something allot of guys are starting to understand - you probably will not find amongst the varying shades of grey someone who is perfectly in line with your perspective and goals. You are the outsider - you will always be. However, you can find common ground and seek like interests that promote both party's goals - however at a certain point you have to realize that they are going to diverge again - and that you are still the outsider. You can maintain the certain degree of influence that you achieved through your assistance, but if you do not acknowledge that you are the outsider, that you will always be an outsider and that the insider's problems will outlive your rotation and even those of your relief's, then you stand to forfeit it.
What will really matter is how the next unit handles the sheiks - do they work with them to help them realize their goals as they coincide with what Iraq needs to create a secure and stable environement - or will the next guy try and impose something else? Look for the guy who is most in line with your (our) goals and who wields sufficient influence (or will by promotion). Push hard to support that person or group while trying to balance and influence them towards tolerance while not discrediting them as an instrument of a foreign power. People love conspiracy theories - Iraqis are no different from us in this regard. Unfortunatley its easy for us to obscure an opportunity for progress with rigid adherance to the perception of our own goals and standards. Its a very subjective thing - its art not science. We'd better get good at it however - the American perception of what is right and good is generally just that - an American perception. While we should never compromise it at home, abroad may require we consider what can be perpetuated in our abscence to provide the type of security and stability that provides us opportunities to apply resources elsewhere. |
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Couple of studs in that BDE. COL McFarland is well know throughout US forces in Germany as an out of the box thinker and aggressive commander. LTC Tien is one of the army's up and coming stars as well.
The COP plan is by far the most effective, and dangerous method of uprooting the insurgents. I think more and more commanders are understanding the inherent value of living among the population and the dangers of trying to "commute" to war. As more and more leaders see the value in COPs, the more effective the hand over between units will be. The enemy will always look to exploit a seem. During tranfer of authority, the seem is easiest for insurgents to gain a footing. I think we need to do a better job of explaining the COP tactics to the american public. The 9 paratroopers killed in Diyala provience were at a COP, not a super FOB like Victory or Anaconda. Our PR folks need to get the word out to the US public that living among the population is both more dangerous and more effective than isolating ourselves. The results will develop and the casualties will decrease. But we've got to give time for this tactic to work.
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Sully - But it pays to remember the very real drawbacks of any COP-based counterinsurgency campaign. First, it requires a high ratio of troop-to-population and thus a large light infantry presence. It requires that these force levels remain somewhat constant over time and that a unit's leadership stay in place for a lengthy period. Lastly and most critically, as Yingling and McFarland make clear, it requires a dedicated native partner on the ground to work with in order. Foreign forces in COPs alone will not create lasting stability, not least because they cannot be maintained forever. Only with local partners can such a strategy succeed.
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Great discussion. Tequilla, I'd say you're spot-on with your thoughts on the importance of indigenous forces operating alongside U.S. forces in the COPs for them to truly be effective. Question is where do the indigenous forces come from? The not so good answer but maybe better than nothing initially was to move predominately Shia Iraqi Army units into Sunni areas. This often proved as problematic as U.S. forces operating alone though. I think the best answer will always be indigenous forces from the local area living in the COPs and operating with us. That said, the first step to making this happen will almost always require us to assume significant risk (at least initially) moving in among the people to provide security for them. Without this first step, the locals will be too intimidated to join the security forces. Nothing new here. "Bing" West's The Village does a great job driving this home. Out in Al Qaim, after we moved in and negotiated with tribal leaders, they encouraged young males to join the security forces. We're seeing the same in Ramadi today.
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7 May LA Times - In Ramadi, a Ragtag Solution with Real Results by Chris Kraul.
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This is a good example of compound warfare and how powerfull it can be. For new people Tom Odom posted an excellant paper on this subject awhile back. I don't have time to find it but it is worth the read.
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I thought this was a great story and looked around for a thread to put the link. In any case here it is http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...e-801047e73bb7
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Travis was the real force behind the Ramadi change, and COL MacFarland supported him 100%. He was killed in the same explosion that killed MAJ Megan McLung, our PAO. A huge loss that was hard to replace in our BDE, fortunately, he had laid the groundwork by that point for what came ahead. 1/3 ID has done great in building on what our BDE did. Tom Ricks' can eat crow about what he published about 1/1 AD "screwing up" Tal Afar. Both places remain success stories. 1/1 AD continued 3ACR's success, moved to Ramadi, and then turned around a city no one thought could be saved, not even the 1 MEF G2. LTC Tien and TF 2-37 AR made TA even better as well until handover last October. Even his own Wapo said as much in an Oct 06 article. (full disclosure, I commanded B/2-37 in TA)RIP, Travis.
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