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Old 08-23-2007   #1
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Default LTC John Nagl (on TV)

Tonight, 23 August - The Daily Show with John Stewart (11p - 10c)
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Old 08-24-2007   #2
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Tonight, 23 August - The Daily Show with John Stewart (11p - 10c)
I can't wait to see this....
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Boy, did LTC Nagl ever steal that show.
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I saw it. He was very impressive. He made good sense, was understandable and likeable and made a good case for the new strategy.
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Interview | The Daily Show - Lt. Col. John Nagl | 08/23/07

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I caught it, and thought it went well. His "be prepared to kill" remark wasn't well received (or I think properly interpreted) by the audience. Otherwise good interview, especially the 7.3% remark.
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The phrase, "Pilgrim in an unholy land comes to mind."

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Thumbs up Nagl on Stewart

I thought LTC Nagl showed a lot of class!
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From a trigger puller perspective I thought this was his best remark.

"Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill."
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Great interview and with this venue John may have reached a whole segment of the U.S. population with little understanding of COIN and what it takes to prevail.
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From a trigger puller perspective I thought this was his best remark.

"Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill."
First remember hearing General Mattis saying that, or something very similar.
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His "be prepared to kill" remark wasn't well received (or I think properly interpreted) by the audience.
I understand that the new COIN doctrine is a major tactical change but if civilians in New York don't see much difference between, "Kill the bad guys," and "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill." I wonder if civilians in Baghdad will notice much difference.
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Default The smart ones will, dummies won't.

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Default Stewart had a much harder time...Colonel, well done !

What I enjoyed most was how LTC Nagl maintained control over the show, never letting his guard down.
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John Stewart is almost never that nice to anybody he doesn't personally respect. I thought it was pretty apparent that John Stewart had also actually read the book and that is pretty darn rare.
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Needless to say, the situation was tenuous at best. Stewart invited Nagl to discuss an extremely unfunny book on a comedy show. There is nothing inherently funny about COIN, killing, etc. John did a superb job of walking that fine line of keeping Stewart and the audience focused and interested without seeming either glib or boring. Then -- the 7.3% comment nailed it.

Be prepared to kill didn't need to resonate, it just needed to inject reality into the discussion of this very serious business of ours.
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Default John Robb on the Interview

At his Global Guerrillas web log:

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... He does a great job. It was also effective in that it drove sales of the Counterinsurgency Field Manual to the top 100 on Amazon.

NOTE: Wow, the Petraeus information operations media machine is amazing (and this is a great example). Nod of respect, without the attachment of a value judgement, to the masterful way in which Petraeus has been able to influence the public's perception of this war.
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Default SWJ Blog Link...

SWJ Blog entry with additional links to others who blogged the interview. Also embeds the Comedy Central video vice the YouTube version.
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Wow that ws a great interview and John did the Army proud ... he even has a sense of humor!
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I swear I heard him say al Qa'ida is only 7% of the insurgency. Hmm, isn't that what you've been saying, Abu? Or does this just mean LTC Nagl is "part of the antiwar crowd" too?

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