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I wouldn't say this is entirely correct. I am presently in Fallujah with the U.S. Navy working on tribal and leadership engagement. The next stage of this plan is to remove the vehicle ban and barriers in a methodical and deliberate manner. This decision will be made by the Iraqis in conjunction with Coalition Forces. The neighborhood "militias" are actually residents who are paid a very small amount of money per month to watch their respective community. Each neighborhood also has a police precinct, muktar, neighborhood watch, and a community council to provide security and improved governance. The real test of whether this is a Potemkim type situation will be when the vehicle ban is lifted and the barriers are removed. We are presently in the process of registering all of the vehicles in the city in order to limit a VBIED threat and to improve vehicle monitoring by the Iraqi Police. A second challenge will be how Iraqi institutions respond to the first security incident that takes place after the vehicle ban is lifted. Thus far, they have been very quick to respond to a problem and have actually solved cases because of the enthusiastic support they receive from the community.
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I like to keep up with John Robb. Without studying analyses that run counter to your own one can become rather closed-minded. But what were the conditions like in Fallujah prior to this? I had interviewed Lt. Col. William Mullen concerning the conditions in Fallujah in this article:
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2007/...-6th-regiment/ And so I knew full well what we have had to do to pacify Fallujah. The tribal influence is much weaker in Fallujah, so more traditional counterinsurgency TTPs have been required, such as gated communities. But is Robb seriously claiming that this has hindered true progress or otherwise caused conditions in Fallujah that are worse than they were prior to these actions? Is he seriously claiming that our efforts have caused unemployment or the lack of communication with the balance of Iraq? He misses the point. The unemployment was already there, because it was the last major city in Anbar to undergo pacification. I claim exactly the opposite of Robb. Now ... and only now ... can Fallujah BEGIN its communication with the rest of Iraq. More on Biometrics here from Noah Shachtman: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/0...iary-fall.html |
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I think he's saying that our recent "progress" doesn't mean we're moving toward our stated goal: achievement of the political benchmarks. He's also saying that things could deteriorate as soon as we lighten restrictions which Mr Green agrees could happen. A second challenge will be how Iraqi institutions respond to the first security incident that takes place after the vehicle ban is lifted. Last edited by Rank amateur; 09-04-2007 at 11:04 PM. |
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