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Is it common for Luxury yachts to sail near the coast of Somalia? Apparently, the French government sent a "commando force", GIGN, to "reinforce" the negotiations (see http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...d/5680051.html and http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp..._yacht_pirates |
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Or perhaps been directed to do so to generate a causus belli to justify a military strike.
Actually, I understand that this yacht does a winter round in the Seychelles area then transits the Suez Canal in April to do a summer round of cruising in the Med. Last time I checked, one needs to sail past Puntaland to get into the Red Sea and the Suez from the Seychelles. The only question is how close one needs to be to that coast. Since this yacht has 3 masts worth of sail power, perhaps it was just following the winds. |
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surely not...
![]() Edited to add: I guess it would depend on whether you wished to be captured by Somalis or Yemenis...
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I read the monthly piracy reports and Somalia has been a hot spot for a long time. Unfortunately if you want to transit the Suez Canal, and you've come up the inland passage between Africa and Madagascar (like coastal sailors are going to), then you end up rounding Somalia no batter what. Some sailors (yachties) are going all the way out to Mauritaus (off the coast of Somalia) to make the swing. Still most of the piracy (way more than terrorism) is against container ships and after the crew belongings more than the cargo.
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but according to this article, there's not much room for more than two Ukrainians, since the passengers were elsewhere during the capture
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You'll find the ICC piracy reports here. They always make for interesting reading.
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This is starting to sound more and more like some kind of botched French intel operation to me....
Either that or they just don't know who actually was working as crew on the yacht.
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Wayne and I were PMing potential options for a quick and dirty intervention. My version included 500 rounds of .50 cal at 300 meters followed by a small torpedo while Wayne envisioned Zodiacs stormin' and a boardin' with an AC-130 providing suppressive fire (ahem... without hitting the ship). A quick trip to the International Maritime Bureau's site however has come up with an ingenuous device to keep those pesky pirates at bay... with 9,000 volts ![]() Quote:
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Joshua Slocum used tacks on the deck.
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an oxymoron. Evidently the folks with enough money to staff and sail a luxury yacht also have enough juice to get some commando action.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/11/africa/yacht.php
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French commandos there are. GIGN and the Legion fellows definitely hold up their part of any tactical bargain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVRYgrwhhM8 I'm just not so sure I agree with GIGN's choice of an entry gun, which used to be a revolver.
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the SEALs used to use wheel-guns for ship board stuff...evidently it helped keep the old slip-and-fall to a minimum by reducing spent brass all over the deck. And, yes, I'm positive the french maintain a capable CT force...I just keep having images of pepe lePew in a beret and striped shirt...
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Reuters Apr 12 -
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The BBC reports a Basque trawler 400kms off Somalia has been captured by pirates and is heading towards Somalia: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7357831.stm
Now what will Spain do? Not sure if they contribute to the naval task force in the region. davidbfpo |
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Certainly didn't take long for the pirates to regroup, although seems they've lowered their standards a bit. There's gonna be a real handsome reward for the tuna boat and the release of the 13 African crew members
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Hey David !
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Stan,
One wonders if the new Spanish cabinet with its majority of female ministers, one being defence minister, has made a difference. I doubt if rescuing a trawler was on her list of things to achieve. davidbfpo |
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Kinda wondering where that Naval Frigate is... should've caught up with a tuna boat by now. Spain seeks NATO, US help in hostage crisis Quote:
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