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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...aches-100.html - which includes 'Not a single British soldier has been fatally shot for almost nine months'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ghanistan.html There's also a photo gallery: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2095...ghanistan.html How this milestone will play out with the public is unknown. davidbfpo |
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Following on from the BBC Panorama programme, November 5th 2007, which was on this thread: http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...ead.php?t=4262
Last night Panorama provided an interesting short update on how the soldiers feel now: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ma/7437580.stm davidbfpo Last edited by davidbfpo; 06-10-2008 at 06:59 PM. Reason: Add 2007 thread link |
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Issued yesterday to coincide with the Trooping the Colour ceremony: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../15/do1511.xml
The Welsh Guards colour was being trooped and there was footage of a group temporarily assigned to the Royal Irish, in Afghanistan. Nothing startling in the article, but some may like it. davidbfpo |
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by Dr. Daniel Marston, Small Wars Journal British Operations in Helmand Afghanistan (PDF Article) Quote:
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Under the headline 'Grim reality of life beyond Helmand' the (UK) Sunday Times has this report, subtitled 'British officials are pleased with their reconstruction. Our correspondent finds little for them to crow about':
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4882416.ece It should be read alongside a longer article on the military campaign, under the headline 'Relentless Taliban just keep coming' and subtitled: As their gruelling tour of duty in Afghanistan ends, men of 2 Para tell of relentless battles with an enemy that simply doesn’t know when he is outgunned http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4882417.ece Includes remarks made by the Brigadier in charge of the UK brigade in Helmand, who are about to leave. Note one platoon in 2 Para of thirty men had six fatal casualties in their tour; a one in five ratio does not bode well - in Afghanistan and here IMHO. Posted in another thread too. davidbfpo |
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An article in the 'Restricted' British Army Review (BAR) has appeared in the public domain: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ghanistan.html
I am sure the author, a UK Army major, is echoing many comrades views. Hat tip to: http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama and that refers in the comments section to another UK officer, David Benest, on UK COIN doctrine and associated problems: http://ccw.politics.ox.ac.uk/events/...t08_benest.asp Not that this publicity will affect the UK government. davidbfpo |
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Is there any way to access the actual British Army Review article?
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Carl,
BAR is not available publically in the UK and sometimes back issues appear in the RUSI Library (Whitehall think tank). I understand copies circulate in US staff colleges etc (as indicated by Jon Custis recently and others before, on different threads). I will check when in RUSI this week. davidbfpo |
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I will post this too in an OEF thread, but as it is a UK Army operation starting here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...n-assault.html
What is amazing IMHO is the reference to 'Operation Panther's Claw, an assault by the Scots soldiers on one of the last Taliban strongholds in Helmand Province...' Bold added by me. Does this exclude the two large refugee camps, which had Taliban rule eighteen months ago in Helmand Province? davidbfpo |
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I don't wish to place words in the Colonel's mouth, but my conversations with him seem to indicate that he is very sceptical of "COIN Doctrine/manuals" or "theoretical approaches." He is very much for the hands on approach and teaching what works, based on actual evidence, and not "pet theories."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ghanistan.html
I have started this as a new thread because I think it is deserving of our collective attentions. Suffice it to say, I doubt these are "UK only" problems. Moreover, as many of you know I am not entirely convinced that Afghanistan is actually suffering from an insurgency. There might actually be a war going on.
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While I can't get on board with all of the Major's points, his frustration is certainly valid.
But at the heart of the matter, as he alludes to, and WILF states above: If you don't understand what the problem is that you are trying to solve, any solution you devise is likely to come across as a confused, inefficient mess. (Though WILF, I do have to call you out a little bit: I thought your position was that insurgency is war, but now you identify the difference as critical? Shed some light, brother. What factors are you seeing that are making you see this as trending across some line, and what that line is.) For me, I would set "Clear-Hold-Build" on a shelf, right next to the concepts that we can either kill enough "bad guys" to win; or build enough infrastructure to win. In fact, toss up on that shelf the concept of the coalition "winning" or "losing" altogether, as this tends to shape our actions more to save our own face rather than to stabilize Afghanistan. What I would take down from the shelf is a shift to a focus of attaining localized "goodnees" and doing so in a manner that minimizes any perceptions of legitimacy of the Coalition over whatever government the Afghan people choose to put in place. I would then seek a strong partnership with Iran to help implement this process, and also thereby diluting any perceptions of western legitmacy over the Afghan government. Simplify the solution and reduce the amount of control we seek over that solution. We must merely enable an Afghan solution, not impose a western one.
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I believe that should be the object in what some call "COIN". How it is best done will depend on the specifics of the circumstance, but painting yourself into the "POP-centric COIN" corner is not necessarily progress, if the population is inclined to support which ever side is winning.
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A lengthy speech by the next UK Army chief, full text: http://www.rusi.org/events/ref:E496B...4A4253226F582/ and a commentaries: http://defenceoftherealm.blogspot.com/ and: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ure-chief.html
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The first seven posts were on a different thread on the UK Army problems: http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...?t=4819&page=5 and rightly Wilf thought a new thread was needed and I later moved the seven posts to this thread.
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I'm not sure its as bad as all that. Queen's Birthday Parade went well.
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Daily Telegraph comment on the choices: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...is-timely.html
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Following the death of Lt.Col. Thorneloe, once a student of his Professor Richard Holmes (once a TA / Reserve Army brigadier) has written this savage IMHO attack on the UK lack of a strategy: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6652496.ece
Incidnetally the more popular newspaper The Daily Mail on 7/7/09 had an editorial comment: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...hting-for.html. Followed by Max Hastings article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...r-country.html - within are two pithy sentences Quote:
In evidence to a House of Commons Select Committee on Defence, Stephen Grey, a Sunday Times journalist, was scathing in his criticism - not of the troops: http://files.stephengrey.com/OpSnake...transcript.doc Then we can read that UK aid has created a park for women at Lashka Gar: Quote:
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The speech was delivered at Chatham House, London a think tank and unusually for such a gathering his speech recieved some hostile comments over the lack of helicopters in the Q&A. Apologies for length, IMHO the issue of 'Why Afghanistan?' appears to be moving into the public domain and public support for the policy is simply evaporating. In late 2008 a poll IIRC found 80% opposed our presence. davidbfpo Last edited by davidbfpo; 04-05-2010 at 11:11 AM. Reason: Tidy up and add quote marks |
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