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For the UN, the direction is simple: now it’s time for development, stabilisation in other words. For the Sudanese, the direction is less clear. First of all, neither Khartoum nor Juba has interest in going for elections and even less for the referendum. Since last year, South is experiencing a backfire of ethnical violence. Every fingers are pointing to Khartoum, the big bad wolf. But a closer look to those violence shows that reality, as usual, is less simple. - All clashes started when the SPLM, the political wing of SPLA, started to crack down. The creation of SPLM-DC, a dissident wing of SPLM seems to have been the fire starter. - All clashes involved, at the early stage, Dinka, the SPLA major ethnic group, and former SAF supporter ethnic groups. - If Khartoum has advantages to destabilize GoSS, SPLA also has good reasons to undermine the civil SPLM administration. The soldier time is ending and most of them may loose their place in the sun with the elections. - After nearly 50years of war, traditional social mechanisms are completely dysfunctional. The youth is actually marginalised by the actual in power “mature”/pre elders’ class. As war has destabilise economy and put on their knees most of the population, the actual ruling age class is trying to recover by increasing dotes and traditional transactions. This leads to a de facto marginalisation of the youth that takes guns to recover what they are denied: the right to marry and be a man. - Education in rural areas is extremely low among men and even lower among girls and women. - The infamous LRA, the main source of organised violence, has been pushed away in neighbouring countries where they have a safe even in an inaccessible zone. They are now split in dozen of small groups hunted down by at least 3 armed forces. - Guns and ammunitions are flying around all over the place. Some say it is Khartoum while others are saying, well Khartoum is just fuelling the fire and tacking advantage of the incapability of the GoSS to stabilise and impose law and order. - While the house is falling apart, GoSS and NPC are preparing for war as rumours of unilateral declaration of independence from South Sudan are becoming the official speech. Not even talking about Darfur. - Regional powers are looking at South Sudan with a melted opinion on the creation of that non ruled country. Egypt is looking at containing the Muslim Brotherhood and extremist opposition while democratic change could just bring them to power in his old friend North Sudan. Kenyan and Ugandan governments and criminal groups are looking at South Sudan as an open land ready for colonisation. - The population is 90% rural living on agriculture with average revenues far below poverty level. The list is long and this one is not exhaustive. The US interest are not low in Sudan and stabilizing South Sudan is highly necessary for the region. Somehow, it does remind me other conflicts, without the presence of international forces. As the time is to stabilisation, South Sudan is an open air laboratory for it. The question is simple: can we just do it? And if yes: how? |
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Not the best indicator, but a year ago in part of the UK there was a move amidst the entire Sudanese expatriate community to promote the elections and referendum. Rivalry alas led to some disorder and to the local police's bemusement it was all settled quickly and the unity tottered on.
I don't know if this expatriate community has influence back home; nor does it appear to be financially empowered. Optimimsm here is very different to on the ground reality. My questions are: will the UN contributors keep their military and civil contingents in place if violence escalates? Does their mandate involve an active role? davidbfpo |
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as a longterm Sudan watcher, I would say the short answer is No, we cannot as long as we persist in supporting the illusion of a single Sudan. Tom |
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Well, the question of an active participation of the UN in security, even for stabilisation, is a pure theoretical one. The South Sudan mission is under chapter 6, with the possibility if there is huge deterrence of the situation to use chap 7 privileges.
But the SRSG reaffirmed that up to now and for the future, UNMIS would implement a full chap 6. In clear a wait and see UN mission. The other problem is manpower. No one is really ready to provide more troops for SS. Also, if things go bad, UN will redraw. And that is what the oldschool UN South Sudan wants: to go back to Naerobi and its confort (we are far from people centric concerns). Basically if violence errupt, UN loose their mandate... So UN tried to push, and is still trying, SPLA to intervene into cattle wars. But as said previously, there are numerous question marks on the role of SPLA into starting the clashes. For me, it looks like calling the incendiary guy to play fireman. On the other side, GoSS is trying hard (they say) to show they do have control. But… If they are not as bad as FARDC, they not too far from them in terms of discipline. Sometime, I even wonder what they have in mind. They contracted Kenyan army to train them. I have pretty low knowledge of Kenyans army records, but still, SAF in Khartoum must be laughing. |
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From Sudan tribune Who and what is militia in South Sudan?
In Warrap state, according the media reports, heavy artilleries were used in fighting involving two Dinka clans. In Lakes state Agar-Dinka had recently attacked the SPLA convoy destroying a number of their vehicles using Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPGs). In Juba’s weapons search it is reported that even anti-air craft weapons plus RPGs, PKMs, etc., were found in the hands of civilians. So if the Lou-Nuer attackers used such type of weapons it should not be something new to any body. also, I was talking with people from Human Rights about LRA. They asked me my solution. I answered: hunt them, kill them and when you catch one alive put him in jail. their solution has been: let's go for reintegration... Why can't we call a dog a dog? A civil war a civil war and not development with pre-election difficulties or war criminals just misleaded youth? Last edited by Tom Odom; 10-07-2009 at 09:17 AM. Reason: fixed links |
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Sudan denies recruiting former US officials as lobbyists
First announce with big highlights, North Sudan is denying now recruiting US officials as lobbyists. Well, once thing is sure, they need some in DC to be on their side. Kiir accuses Sudan’s ruling NCP of arming Southern militias On the other side, What ever President Kiir may say, the last reports from Small Arms Survey are pointing out the leakage of weapons and ammunition from SPLA Stock piles. When you want your dog dead: accuse him of rage… Bentiu clashes purely SPLA affair: official spokesmanAnd just to confirm that they are really far from capable, SPLA started to fight each others, turning a so called army of clowns, into a gang of militia. But we are going for elections, free and fair… Last edited by Tom Odom; 10-07-2009 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Fixed links |
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What I love with South Sudan is that they fear nothing even being ridiculous. Now they remind USA that they have laws to pass for them to have their independency…
Is not a failed state we are building it is a silly joke. Quote:
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Sudan’s SPLM gives ultimatum to NCP over law package
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For sure! And I forgot the most hilarious :Salva Kiir death rumour spead by... Whe don not know yet. This joke gonna turn to disaster as sure it is a joke. May be it is time to have a closer look at what is going on in South Sudan. Or in 6 month, I believe the same old folks will meet in Juba to patch the disaster. |
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This is may be the most clairevoyant comment I read about the situation in Sout Sudan stated by a South Sudanese body since I arrived. But I still wonder how people from this place can come to the conclusion that they are not capable to rule the country they did fought for. |
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Japan is funding 2010 with 10 millions…
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article32829 Is there a government in South Sudan http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article32871 Quote:
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First the funny news from the failed country under construction. And then the bad sad news.
South Sudan calls on Khartoum to fully cooperate with US new policy By James Gatdet Dak October 22, 2009 (JUBA) – The Juba-based semi-autonomous Government of Southern Sudan has welcomed the new US policy on Sudan, and called on the Government of National Unity in Khartoum to fully cooperate with it. In a press statement on Wednesday, Southern Sudan’s Vice President, Dr. Riek Machar said the policy was positive and would result to the lifting of sanctions imposed on the country by the successive American administrations if Sudan responded positively. He said there would be no logic to continue with the sanctions in the country if the issues highlighted in the policy were addressed and fully resolved. Sudan would also be removed from the list of the states that sponsor terrorism if it practically cooperates with the policy, he added. Dr. Machar, who is also the Deputy Chairperson of the ruling party in the South, the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) explained that the new US policy would help his government in trying to speedily curb the ongoing inter and intra-tribal fighting in the region. SPLM and its peace partner, the northern ruling National Congress Party (NCP), which signed the North-South peace deal in 2005, last week achieved a breakthrough by agreeing on the final draft bill for the conduct of the Southern Sudan referendum on secession in January 2011. SPLM officials however accuse their northern partner of dragging its feet on implementing a number of other outstanding issues in the agreement, such as the North-South border demarcation and national security law needed for the conduct of the upcoming elections due in six months. They also accuse them of arming certain groups to destabilize the region. The US policy which calls for engagement with the Khartoum government spells out the use of ‘stick and carrot’ approach to deal with the regime. It calls for a campaign of "pressure and incentives" to pressure Khartoum into pursuing peace in the troubled Darfur region, settling disputes with the semi-autonomous government in Southern Sudan and providing the United States greater cooperation in stemming international terrorism. Washington said it would set strict time lines for the Sudanese President, Omer Hassan Al-Bashir to fulfill the conditions of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA). (ST) http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article32877 Then the bad news Gunmen abduct Red Cross worker in West Darfur October 22, 2009 (KHARTOUM) — A French aid worker of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has been abducted today by unidentified armed men near the capital of western Darfur state. Gauthier Lefevre, who was kidnapped around midday, was returning with other ICRC staff to El-Geneina after completing a field trip north of the capital of West Darfur to help local communities upgrade their water supply systems. He was travelling in one of two clearly marked ICRC vehicles when he was seized a few kilometers from the town. The Red Cross said ignoring the identity of the abductors and their motivations. However the charity requested the help of the Sudanese authorities "and other parties with the aim of resolving the situation as swiftly as possible." In Paris, the French foreign ministry confirmed the kidnapping and asked for an immediate and unconditioned release of the aid worker. It further said the French embassy in Sudan kept in close contact with ICRC. Since the arrest warrant by the International Criminal Court against the Sudanese President Omer Al-Bashir for war crimes last March, aid workers and peacekeepers face growing attacks and abduction. Earlier this week two females aid workers were released by their kidnappers after more than three months and other tow UNAMID personnel are still under the hands of their abductors. (St) For all the soft rebel with a cause: Men keep on fighting! I am sure all SWJ supports you and like to see you free asap. (right now) |
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It could be funny if it was not that serious:
South Sudan and Kenya are on the edge to be at war. Well, may be it is just a remake of India Vs Pakistan in the fifties when British generals were playing with new born countries' armies. Anyway, Kenya, who is training the new SPLA tanks' crew, has deploy several tanks on the border close to Lokichokio, in Nadapal. SPLA has done the same on his side of the border. The escalation is due to regular cattle raids from Toposa tribe youth in Kenya to steal Turkana tribe cattle. Both Toposa (SouthSudan) and Turkana (Kenyan) do not recognise the border and are claiming the ownership over the grazing land between Kapoeta in South Sudan and Lokichokio in Kenya. Elders have even come out with old British colonial maps to support their claims… Who said Africa does not have written history? Security beefed at border after attacks Quote:
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Could that be the new form of tomorrow war? UN peace keepers declare the conflict is finished and to make sure no one could tell another story the parties abduct relief workers to conduct operations and massacres in peace. We probably face here a deviant replication of the media control from those last years into small wars. Tom, can you add Sudan on the list of chaos countries? |
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It may come some how a little wired when they ask you if they can feed their tamagochy… And you are in the middle of nowhere. From Reuters: South Sudan probably faces corruption affair. http://www.euroinvestor.fr/news/story.aspx?id=10701459 Unfortunately the link in is French but I am sure you can find it in English. While nearly 1.2 million people are starving because of drought, GoSS officials pass contracts to import food for more than 3 billion US dollars. The whole GoSS budget is 3.5 billion Sudanese Pounds… (Around 1.2 billion US$). Those guys… Are they for real? Quote:
In addition to nearly being at war with Kenya, their ally and troops trainer, they just come out with a financial scandal. Those guys just remind me some militia war lord from the bush you can find in DRC. They go to war in the name of the people, kill and harass the people they fight for and when in power miss use and abuse of their power. Concerning Kenya army training… I’m not specialised in tanks but the body count is actually 30 kenyan policement against 2 Toposa youth. Cattle raiders are crazy as they do it for pride and social status. But it does not look too good for SPLA in a North South war revival. Ah, Garang… Where are you? We need you so much!
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Thanks to Professor Borum. He has id'd a website monitoring events in Sudan (not just the South): http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/files...dan/sudan.html and there is a list of other websites.
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Thanks David for reminding me that Sudan does exist… Time to end up vacations.
Good news, the ICRC hostages are in good shape according to them. One million each. Sounds cheap, doesn't it. keep on fighting. Then comes the as usual depressive news from South… US envoy discusses CPA with Sudanese adviser November 17, 2009 (KHARTOUM) – Ghazi Salah Al-Deen, Sudanese Presidential adviser and the visiting US envoy to Sudan Scott Gration discussed today the CPA implementation and Doha peace process to settle Darfur conflict. Mr. Gration will continue to push for a compromise between the two signatories of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) over referendum bill. On Darfur issue the US envoy plans to visit displaced camps and Jebel Marra to support groups planning to hold a unity conference there. Gration’s visit is a continuation of the efforts of the U.S. envoy to resolve the Darfur problem and to complete the interrupted talks between the two peace partners —National Congress Party and SPLM — on the CPA implementation, said Ghazi following his meeting with Gration Tuesday. He further added that American proposals put forward by Gration during his previous visit are still under study and it is on the table for discussion between the NCP and SPLM. The US envoy proposed to hold nex April only elections for the Sudanese presidency and the post of president of southern Sudan government, as well as state governors. He asked to adjourn the legislative elections to the period of after the southern Sudan referebda. Further Gration suggested extend the National Assembly membership from 450 to 510 seats. The US envoy proposed to the two peace partners during his last visit also to accept the results of the fifth census but to amend the constitution in order to prevent modification of the peace agreement with a number of voters less than 80%. Also he suggests guarantying southern Sudan 30% of the executive power as it is the case currently. The SPLM withdrew from the National Assembly on Oct 19, saying it wants parliamentary schedule for the remaining laws of referendum and national security. The southern Sudan party further said the current draft of security law enables the security apparatus to arrest, search and detain, adding all these are against the constitution. (ST) |
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As Sudan prepares for elections, North and South are debating over deep and fundamental ideas.
North police just jailed SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amur and Yassir Arman for participating to a demo in Khartoum. http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33374 As reply, South SPLM supporters burned NCP offices in Wau and vandalised NCP cars in Rumbek. http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33385, http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33384 In the mean time, North Sudan official media announced that UN are supporting Bashir… http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33373 I jailed your politicians against I burn your stuff… A great lesson of democracy in deed. Well, I cannot blame SPLM. But as they say, if SPLM-DC wins the election: we (SPLA/SPLM) make a coup; if NCP win the elections in South: we make a coup; if my friend and military commanders do not win the elections: we make a coup… So why do we want them to have elections? Would not be easier and less efforts consuming to say: ok you have a gun then you are in power? After Iraq, DRC and Afghanistan electoral processes, Sudan elections are strongly questioning the democracy/electoral postulate of stabilization and peace building. More western powers are promoting democracy, more it looks like a standard colonial process with fake occidental like practices to empower friendly interlocutors. But that’s probably all what satbilization, peace building and nation building are about. |
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Darfur hostages threaten of death by Freedom Eagles in Africa
The head of Freedom Eagles of Africa, Abu Mohamed Rizeigi, told the AFP on Thursday November 26, they are targeting French aid workers to force French government to change its policy in the region. He further warned they would attack the French diplomat and troops based in Chad. http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33419 The situation is getting worst and worst in sub Saharan Africa for relief workers. I am sure the guys in Abeche and N’djamena are already shaking like leaves…. More seriously, as insurgents or bandits taking political agenda cover in Africa are missing legitimate targets or are too afraid to target French paratroopers and other legionnaires taking some rest on the continent, they turn to civilians. It raises the question of civilian participating to non war related nation building/support. Expatriated civilian seems to be safer and more secure in at war locations. Talking about the situation in South Sudan and the progresses of the nation building process (you know, the promotion of peaceful and democratic resolution of conflicts and power sharing issues), I really like the SPLM last electoral move: Gen Kiir forms South Sudan military command council http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33407 Just before starting the SPLM candidates selection process starts. South Sudan democratic nation building process is really on tracks now… First you build the military apparatus and then you designate your candidates for elections. I do not know where this is leading us but it is clear that the democratic elections on the continent (Chad 2005, DRC 2006, Kenya 2008, Zimbabwe…) are more and more looking like a formal process for western like endorsement of military dictatorship. Only 20 year ago a wind of hope was blowing on Africa as Berlin wall was falling and democracies were overthrowing communist totalitarian regimes. Now, as Iraq and Afghanistan have completely washed out democratic elections processes credibility, Africa dictators to be are coming back to their old practices. In a global world: what is happening in one place has global impact. It is far from being good news for African people but even a worst one for western countries. If the theory of global insurgency is correct, a global civilian surge is needed. The marches of the democracies’ empire are falling. Africa is proving us everyday that democracy enforcement and nation building is not just a formal exercise that western powers can tickle and abuse! For all the soft rebels with a cause: Keep on fighting men! |
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Sudan referendum law endorsed in cabinet, 51% ‘Yes’ vote & 60% turnout required
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33451 This shows how bad Khartoum wants to get rip of South Sudan. Well at their place I would do the same: South Sudan government went to bankrupt not even 5 years after being in charge. There is ethnic violence all over the place. Oil plants are in North, oil fields in South not exploited. And basically no state and even less nation in South… Government even went to warn its administration members against self promotions for higher salaries. Good news for once! : Two UNAMID staff released by Darfur hostage takers December 13, 2009 (KHARTOUM) – Kidnappers in Darfur today released two civilian employees of the joint United Nations-African Union peacekeeping mission. The Nigerian man and Zimbabwean woman had been held since August 2009. http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33454 And now the proof that I am a master of evil in control of the world not knowing it, just like annonced in the The Conspiracy Thread Sudan points fingers at France in stirring this week’s demonstrations The Sudanese government today accused France of standing behind the demonstrations staged this week by a coalition of Northern opposition parties along with the Sudan People Liberation Movement (SPLM). http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article33444 Yes we do do that sometimes… But we don’t take hostages! And supporting “nice guys” as Hassan Al-Turabi… Yes we do do that also, sometimes… But we don’t take hostages! Supporting the ICC and support Bashir arrest… Yes we definitively do do that. But we don’t take hostages! Meeting with armed movements from Darfur? Oh yes, we do do that! For the best or the worst. Depend on which end of the gun you are. For all the soft rebels with a cause: keep on fighting men! |
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