An easier pill to swallow
After rereading many of the posts in this thread there sems to be 2 different schools of thought. The analyasis portion at company level I can see. I can see a go to guy in the company that 1. pulls in all intel from patrols, raids, etc...any operation involving elements from the company. 2. receives all intel from higher siphons it for pertainent data. As some have said before a LNO type role.
I cannot agree with conventional units handling assets. There is enough issues with those units who can and the agencies involved. Too many, tapping a shallow pool. The thought of many more people attempting to do this (which many already are)instead of going through the proper channels IMO is part of the problem, not a solution. When they do this and report it as intel, makes second sourcing it very difficult especially when many times it is the same source going to multiple locations to make money. The solution is hand these guys off to the proper entity to handle and all will benefit from it. Honestly I vehemently disagree with conventional forces tasking, training, paying......nothing else needs to be said.
In my somewhat limited experience
it very common for those who know not to know who needs to know until after they really needed to know it:(
Well, I do hear it's getting better and hopefully
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...Completely agree there is a huge intel problem and unfortunately those who have the ability to change it are not here reading this. A lot of it comes down to personal relationships and the ability to interact at levels beyond email...
that trend will continue. Right now, the personal relationships do make a difference.
Oh, FWIW, the incidents I mentioned; I was a very young SSG. Less than a couple-three years later, I'd have ignored him and slipped it to them anyway; gotta do what's right -- which may not always be what your boss wants... :D
An Act of Congress....well nit quite
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Oh, FWIW, the incidents I mentioned; I was a very young SSG. Less than a couple-three years later, I'd have ignored him and slipped it to them anyway; gotta do what's right -- which may not always be what your boss wants...
Oh how true......no reduction boards for me anymore.....if only more knew their power and used it for good. Too many career oriented in the ranks today, made it further than I ever thought I would. Everything from this point is just a bonus.......:D
A wise old man once told me "Do what your rank can handle".
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"Walk-ins" are a much neglected aspect of law enforcement intelligence gathering and there are examples in UK mainland policing, during the Irish Troubles, where the "walk-in" was rejected and later found to be costly. They happen in the criminal, as distinct from ideological arena. The ability to listen is the key, perhaps police officers are better at that than soldiers? The "walk-in" has made their decision by time they reach you, ensuring their security is necessary and determined by the situation. Once the initial downloading has been given and needs independent / trained assessment the "walk-in" can leave (in the UK).
The biggest snags with "walk-ins" are that it maybe a one-off, there are those who like to talk - the Walter Mitty factor, potentially are a deception (rare in ordinary law enforcement) and the information is known to very few, leading to issues of verification and follow-up.
An alternative to "walk-in" is the confidential and usually anonymous phone or email and now text/SMS hotline. Crime stoppers being the most well known and in Northern Ireland this was prominiently advertised on security force vehicles - although I am not aware of how effective it was. Alas instead of talking to a person it is an ansaphone.
Slightly off topic, Company Level Int Ops, maybe.
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